WEEK XXVI
Where did I leave my brain this time?
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Hello again DIY folks! Hope everyone is doing well and mixing even better. Did you or anyone you know make any recent discoveries on flavor concentrates? When visiting Nicotine River's site recently, noticed they've got lines from a couple of new flavor companies. So definitely more curious now than ever what people have been trying... be it from old, proven concentrate makers to these newer ones. Just goes to show that when things seem to get a bit dull, things can sure take an exciting turn! Please, share with us what you've learned from testing out any single flavor concentrate you have purchased?!?
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EXAMPLE:
VT Lemon Meringue Tart - Very Good
Put this one together just a couple of days ago. Used it at 6%, which may be a tad much. Even changed the wick and coil out on in my atomizer to get the most out of the test. Initially, was not impressed at all, since the tart seemed most noticeable. But the cotton wasn't really broken in yet nor even fully saturated. Few more puffs, tasted a bit better so I filled the reservoir fully. Wow, this stuff grew on me faster than if I'd planted magic beans! Sure, my sweet tooth still wishes it was a candy/sugary goodness of some kind in it. Even thought about adding the Super Sweet in there within the first half-dozen pulls. But then, after giving it a chance, thought to myself 'Why would I take a chance on making it less enjoyable'? And if I did decide to mix something else into it, would probably be some kind of sugar cookie, although am able to taste bakery in it as-is.
I tried some Apricot flavors.
VT Apricot - This is a bizarre dumpster fire of a flavor that’s not even vapable. First of all, it’s topped off with a ton of one the banes of my existence, the plastic nightmare cherry off cough medicine note. A ton of it, more than most cherry flavors. Beyond that terribly offensive plastic cherry that has no business in an apricot, there’s EVEN MORE WEIRDNESS. There is a bit of thinner, juicier take on a sweet apricot inside there, but there’s also this very strange malty cereal-type flavor to it. I could deal with the cereal thing for use in an apricot bakery recipe, but to have it contrasted with plastic nightmare cherry makes an unusable garbage flavor.
INW Apricots- An authentic underripe apricot, maybe? Strong, highly concentrated flavor, maybe the 1%I tried it at was too much? Or it needs to steep longer than a few days? Bold flavor that tastes like an apricot, but not nearly as soft and sweet as it should be, with some peachy floral and little bit of a green bitter vegetal chemically edge like a peach so underripe that it’s still hard.
FWIW “INW Apricot” was apparently reformulated two years ago and if that’s what I have, I’m sure I have the new version. But my bottle says “INW Apricots” with an S so I dunno. This INW stuff can really get confusing. I know some people report no green vegetal underripe peach type flavor in INW Apricots, but that's what mine tastes like.
TFA Apricot - Weird peach-apricot candy thing. I can sort of find the apricot in there in the middle, but the top notes have more of a lightly floral yellow peach thing going one and the base is sweet, syrupy, slightly creamy candy with a hint of vanilla. It’s almost a single flavor stone fruit cream saver, if it had just a little more cream, but a weird one, because what apricot is there in the middle is less candied than the peachy top notes or sweet base and even tastes a little green or underripe. Despite all that oddness, I definitely can’t say that I don’t enjoy vaping it, even standalone. It’s weird, but it’s one of those full-bodied, well-rounded flavors that vapes more like a satisfying recipe than a boring single flavor.
FE Apricot - I love this flavor, but I don’t get apricot from it at all. It tastes like a peach jolly rancher of a flat peach soda. None of the subtlety of an apricot, not even a cooked or dried one. Higher almost floral slightly tart yellow peach top notes, heavy syrupy sweet mostly flat but bold candy peach base. Kind of juicy in a mouthwatering candy way, with a bit of tartness from the top notes.
CAP Apricot - It’s like boiling dried apricots and drinking the water after adding some sugar to it. A light and soft apricot flavor that tastes like it might have come from nature. It’s a little simpler and slightly softer and sweeter than a real apricot, which is already a soft and not terribly or complex flavor, but it doesn’t have that bright fake oversaturated candy-type flavor. It's a subtle, unassuming type flavor both at 4% and 6%. It doesn’t taste fully cooked down into something like a jam, because that would be a more intense flavor, but it’s a bit jammy, with a sticky sweetness, almost too sticky sweet for the amount of apricot that actually comes though. Down below 4% it’s bit a bit thin, but by 6% the sticky sweet fills in more. No throat hit.
FLV Apricot - Cleary an apricot, but kind of an odd one. The top notes are a little floral in the same way that peaches can be a little floral, not out of control flowers, but a little floral. Mostly, that makes it taste more like a peach. There’s also some of that linalool peach harshness that’s too much for some but non-existent for others up there. Down low, it’s a cooked apricot, spot on, just like the inside of one of granny’s apricot fried pies. It has that same sort of caramelized fructose flavor of baked fruit. I really want to see if I can use that cooked apricot to create some other cooked fruits, like peach obviously, maybe mango, maybe even cherry. But that would require tamping down that brighter top note somehow.
FA Apricot - Different from many other FA flavors. It tastes much more natural than candied and or overly sweet, so that’s about that I’d expect, but it also isn’t especially thin, dry, or top heavy. Top notes are mild, subtle yellow peachy-type of flavor (at 2%). Pushing it higher (4%) doesn’t really make it more assertive, it’s just a gentle type of fresh fruit flavor, but not weak like CAP Apricot. Not a dried or cooked type of flavor at all. I don’t get any sort of harshness from this, overall it’s just smooth and gentle flavor. It’s exhale starts and finishes weaker: it’s more of a middle-range flavor, with a nice full fleshy body like you’d expect from a fresh apricot.
Yeah, I went through a whole 13 ml bottle of CAP Apricot tinkering around with it in some mixes and I'm pretty sure I never did taste it lol.
In one recipe I got it to alter the way a peach flavor tasted pretty significantly (tasted much different with the CAP Apricot than without), but I bet if I took the peach out I wouldn’t have even been able to tell there was a fruit in there.
Thx for these comparison notes ID10-T. I find them more useful than longer individual testing notes; finding desired flavor is so much easier. Muchas gracias!
The original INW Apricot was so good, a pox on there house for the reformulation. Got the new one now but just not the same, such a shame. Got most of the other Apricot flavors you mention but think I am missing the FE, might have to give that a shot.
Thanks for the notes 👍
TFA Apricot can make a recipe harsh asf
Kinda like Juicy Peach
Although it boosts Pineapple beautifully when used at 0.5%
Nicotine river mango @ 5%_ tastes like a lemon peach cocktail with vodka, wasnt gross, but it was definately NOT a mango. Kind of reminded me of FA mango.
Have you found a good mango? I've been looking to add some mango to my flavor stash, but I'm worried they will all taste like chemicals.
Cap sweet tangerine at 5% by itself taste just like a orange hard candy, if you are into it that profile go for it, it have maybe 1/10 tartness. It is pretty enjoyable.
Paired it with 2% cap orange creamsicle and it rounded the flavor taking away some of the hard candy flavor and giving it sort of fanta like taste.