I'm very new to this and I'm on nicotine river and all I see is 3, 48, 100+. I tried using a juice calculator and of course it says I can use all of these in a 30ml but the total ml will be adjusted. Is there one of these that is better? Does the taste change at all with these? Or does it even out because the total amount of nic balances out. Thanks.
It all evens out. Get 100mg. You’ll need less room to store it and less pouring into each mix.
It also takes less space in the freezer.
Probably an obvious question, but does it freeze? Or just get super viscous?
Realistically you should buy the 100mg nicotine base. It’s much much easier to mix in a small amount of high Nic into your juice than it is to mix in a large amount of low Nic. For example, if you wanted a 30ml bottle to be 6mg you would add 1.8ml of 100 mg nicotine base, but if you bought 48mg Nic base, you would have to add 3.75ml. There’s one main reason you should buy at least the 100mg - you’ll use less total nicotine liquid every time you mix so the bottle will last longer. Basically If you bought a 200ml bottle of 6mg nicotine, you could only make 200mls of juice, if you bought a 200ml bottle of 48mg Nic you could make 1.6L of juice, if you buy the 100mg = 3.3L, 1000mg Nic base = 33.3L. Basically the higher the Nic mg, the more cost effective and also the less hasssle. Hope this makes sense, good luck.
Whatever you decide to get please be very careful and read up properly on how to safely handle 100mg nicotine if that's the route you decide to go.
Safety is always good but it's not going to hurt you unless you drink it or spill a shit ton on yourself and just leave it there.
You definitely don't want to leave it where pets and/or kids can get to it, though.
...or spray it in your eyes by being careless with the dropper bottle. It can happen if you make assumptions about the dropper cap being tight, or the dropper tip being secure after refilling your room temperature nic bottle, I’ve heard, and it does not sound like a picnic.
100mg/ml is the best deal since you will use less, it will last longer. Plus PG and VG is cheap. Whichever one you choose to use they will all taste the same in the final mix. Get 100% PG nic since it's easier to shake up. I decant my nic into several smaller amber boston round bottles with dropper caps and store them in the freezer. Then I keep one out for mixing. If you do this, be sure to shake up your bottle very well first and use a funnel to avoid spills
I use 50mg/ ml and it works the best for me (max. Vg)
100mg/ ml do not give you not much Room for Dosage Errors!
That is a good point about there not being much room for error, especially when you’re mixing small amounts like 15 ml total of liquid to try out a new recipe. I’ve definitely accidentally over poured by a bit.
I use e cig vape calculator. If you’re making a 0mg 100ml bottle into 6mg you will add 6ml of nicotine.
>If you’re making a 0mg 100ml bottle into 6mg you will add 6ml of nicotine.
Well, close, but you'll mess up the ratios a bit. But it's close enough for testers.
Yes. Sorry rough guess on not enough coffee. Thanks for catching my mistake.
Pretty much what all these other guys said, but I figured I’d add that it’s best to use a 100+mg base because not only does it reduce the risk of nicotine oxidation in your juice because you’re using less of it, but depending on the brand of nicotine that you decide to buy, the amount of nicotine you use could also affect the taste of the juice itself. I’d rather have 1-2 mL of nic in my juice instead of 4-5+.
Lower nic base can also affect what pg/vg ratios you can actually achieve so keep that in mind as well
>not only does it reduce the risk of nicotine oxidation in your juice because you’re using less of it
>I’d rather have 1-2 mL of nic in my juice instead of 4-5+.
That's not how it works. By volume yes, but in the final mix you will have the exact amount of nicotine no matter what nic you use
I would suggest 100mg VG based because the nicotine oxidizes a lot faster in PG even if it is refrigerated. Also our lab uses nic river for wholesale in all our products but after shopping with several manufacturers I use NicSelect for myself. Most nicotine has a pretty nasty smell/taste (like a cigs inside extended stay or old Chevy Blazer with the headliner falling out) but the NicSelect base smells pretty much like nothing and comes clear. Much less of a bad taste to try and mask. I think Liquid barn and perfectvape both carry it. PurNic is still really good stuff though compared to some of the crap out there. Just my opinion though! Also be sure to pick up some gloves. Happy mixing!
>I would suggest 100mg VG based because the nicotine oxidizes a lot faster in PG even if it is refrigerated.
I've heard that 100% VG nic base can have problems because nic doesn't mix as easily with VG as with PG. Have you run into any problems like that?
I use 100mg. It’s the easiest to mix with. And if you use ELR to make your recipes, you’ll add it into your profile. Once you do that and create a recipe it’ll give you the option of how high you want your Nic content. And it’ll automatically adjust it for you
I'll give you the same advice I give every new mixer who asks this question:
Ultimately, the easiest way to work this out is to start by calculating how much actual nic you need in your bottle of juice.
You want to make a 30ml bottle of 6mg/ml juice. Therefore, you need 30 x 6 mg = 180mg of pure nic.
So if you have 100mg/ml nic base (ie; 10% nic), that means your mix needs 10 x 0.18mls of your nic base x 10 = 1.8mls of your nic base.
I personally buy the strongest nic base I can legally buy where I live, which is 100mg/ml, & also makes the maths so easy I can do it in my head. Whereas I'd have to use a calculator to figure it out for other nic-base strengths. ;)
TL;DR: Buy 100mg/ml nic base & carefully measure it with a syringe.
For your example, use a 5ml syringe, pull out 1.8ml of 100mg nic base, put that in your 30ml bottle, add your flavours, then fill with PG/VG to your preference.
EDIT: And don't forget to shake the crap out of your mix to make sure it's really mixed thoroughly! You DO NOT WANT any weak/strong parts in the bottle!