Throw away? Keep adding flavor(s)? Throw sweetener at it?
I hear about people testing a flavor, mixing at different percentages, etc.. Multiple 15ml tests. What do you do with the bad result bottles?
I test in 10ml. Just easier to work out % for me. But I don't test different percentages of the same flavor in different bottles. Too much waste! I just keep increasing the percentage in the same bottle until it just starts to decline. Then I either vape the finished result, or add more base to get it back to its sweet spot.
Does your scale read in hundredths? Or do you use a drop method?
I tried a tenths scale for postage we had at work. Bad idea. You will only find recipes at hundredths, and it's hard to gauge your closeness. I was always worried I would ruin someone's recipe
i used to mix no nic and just dump. now i make mostly vapable errors. those i vape through if i think it will give me a better sense of what i want or save to see if a steep causes something to change.
also coolant/menthol can cover up some fruit errors, flv clove can cover up some bacco errors if you need to vape through it.
I smoked menthol, but trying icy/menthol vapes hasn't been pleasant at all. Tried Koolada the other day, low percentage to get a drink like flavor.
I would assume testing with them is pretty tough to get just right.
It’s not too bad. You figure out sort of quick where you like it and it sounds like you don’t. Basically you can find a bully that will overpower errors that you may enjoy. Or dilute back up to ten and add something that you think will go easy. Or mutes it.
I throw the away. I went through a phase of trying to correct the, but it just was so much effort. Would spend about an hour just to make a 10ml that I tested down to 8ml and then correct it back up to 15ml. In the end I wasted 17ml.....
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Also, as the pst on Mixing by numbers last thursday said, I try to min. waste by adding less than needed as it is MUCH easier to add more than dillute down.
I keep to vape when I'm drunk.
Often times, will add something to it to see if it'll improve. It's one way to experiment. Usually try to think of what is the most logical pairing. Especially if it seems like it is lacking in a certain area. There are a lot of single flavors that some people feel more accurately represent the flavor they say they are. For me, may have to add more apple to an apple pie or peanut butter to a crunch berry. Or some kind of bakery, since I have a harder time picking out those kinds of notes. Do I vape every single bit of my vjuice? No. But since I mix 20 mL at a time, I'll usually vape 5-10 mL of it as stand alone or with a couple of drops of sweetener (assuming it's supposed to be sweet). Sweetener really won't help tobaccos.
If it needs a certain mouth feel or throat hit, I'll try adding things to increase that. I'd bought TPA Turkish. It's got something in there that smells great. Not very good on it's own. But since it's got a fruity note, it seems to ask for maybe some peach thrown in there. I've put in blood orange and kinda liked it. Also... creams/custards seem like a good match up. I have never really vaped creamy tobaccos, but it's something I'm inclined to try soon, since most of the stuff I've been vaping has been tobacco-based.
Nice approach. I might pick up some Turkish and test also. I've only used RY4 Double thus far. I do like a little more throat hit (started using hit nic salts).
Small test bottles are cheap and disposable.. If I rreally worried abojt the cost, i would flush the bottles with unflavored, as lng as the concentration wasn't too high. But ten cents or so is acceptable costs.
I’m confused. Can’t you just rinse the bottle with water?
I could, if i had a steady supply of milli-q water and some way to ensure dehydration. Otherwise there'd be contamination from whatever was in the water, if not actual water.
I just rinse a bottle with tap water, empty, then afterward squirt a few drops (like <0.1ml) of distilled water & shake with my finger on to rinse that water out, maybe repeat a second time with the dropper-tip back on to rinse that through with the remaining distilled water. It always seemed like beyond minimal-effort no-brainer stuff with, at worst, such trivially microscopic quantities of tap water by that stage it wouldn't even bare thinking about (like rushing your dog to the vets from eating a nano-spec of chocolate-biscuit off the floor, y'know?).
I actually keep them all and use them to fatten up or give character to other flavors. What tastes like someone set a stick of banana bubblegum on fire and then rolled in pistachios and gasoline MIGHT, at a subperceptual level, make a dope cantaloupe ice. Who tf knows. I think the disasters are a nice little toolkit for nuance
I had about 10oz of bad mixes in a bottle with everything from 50mg salt pod fruity stuff to low nic deserts and was going to use it in the garden as big spray but I tried a little and Son of a Shit! It was really good!!! I have no idea what the nic percentage is and I get a head rush if I take too big of a pull but I was really surprised. I guess the biggest thing is that I got some really awful PurNic from a vendor and the burned tires and rotten grass clippings flavor was not there at all.
My recipe test batches are 15ml and I usually start with a single mix to get generic profile guidelines. I will try to mix 2-3 variations of it at the second batch after I know what I want to change.
If it is bearable I will vape it. I prefer not to tune it after I mix because it messes with the PG/VG ratio, might not reflect the real flavor (if previous used flavors have already steeped) and I still want to give it a chance to steep more as it is. I usually throw away mixes that did not get any better or got worse after 3-4 months (if I forgot about it for 3 months because I didn't like it I will probably not vape it). Adding sweetener might be a "good" solution though, will definitely try next time.