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Bought these from inawera, are they considered safe to vape or have I messed up?
submitted about 6 years ago by mammoth5

The warnings on the back seem quite severe, I'm wondering if I've bought something meant for cooking with and not intended for vaping. Does anyone have any experience with these?

https://i.imgur.com/FpaJ146.jpg

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by KugelFangerabout 6 years ago

I see OIL written on all 3 of them, oil is a big nono in vaping

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by mammoth5about 6 years ago

Actually i'm an idiot and i never bothered translating the website when i bought them. But once translated, it clearly states that they're for eliquids. Here are the ones that I bought:

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https://www.inawera.com/natural-grapefruit-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-224.html

https://www.inawera.com/raspberry-comestible-flavour-10-ml-p-1145.html

https://www.inawera.com/lime-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-1475.html

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So now I don't know what to do.

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by KugelFangerabout 6 years ago

Well if they are for e-liquids i suppose you are safe

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by The_Apatheistabout 6 years ago

Find out how much to dillute them by and what with.

1 points
 
by mammoth5about 6 years ago

I'm not new to mixing eliquid, been doing it for nearly 10 years. It's just the first time I've come across warnings like this on concentrates. Thanks for looking out though 😊

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by SvenskGhotiabout 6 years ago

Sorry if this seems rude but since a quick Ctrl+F of your profile shows you've only commented here four times I have to ask: have you read the sidebar?

Because there's one specific link you should probably read based on your comment: Vaping Essential Oils and Lipid Pneumonia (TL;DR: essential oils are not lipids)

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by KugelFangerabout 6 years ago

Not rude at all, but as soon as i see oil, its a no-go for me. And honestly, i'd rather recomend people to not vape oil and be wrong than saying sure go ahead and them basicay killing themselfs.

But if this is vape safe then, ill stand corrected. Luckily i am not the only person in this section. And apparently i just learned something new.

Thankyou my good sir.

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by SvenskGhotiabout 6 years ago

Cool, and yeah I totally understand where you're coming from and the "better safe than sorry" attitude, I just thought I'd point out that just because it says "oil" doesn't necessarily mean it's harmful to inhale, owing to the weird colloquialism of "essential oils" being called that because they're not miscible with water, even though they're not lipids but actually a mixture of different aromatic compounds common in many if not a majority of flavors used for vaping (e.g. "lime oil" is going to be almost entirely made up of terpenes like limonene, pinene and citral).

That said, you'll still want to be vigilant because sometimes flavors sold do contain things you'd want to avoid. Prime example: never vape anything with TFA Slim Mint Cookie in it (since it does contain lipids, specifically 4.85% to 9.69% cocoa butter).

Hope this helps!

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by Rotor_Tillerabout 6 years ago

Plant based oils don't cause lipid pneumonia because it's not possible to get it from small particles that plants produce. Only mineral oil and animal oils cause pneumonia.

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

The ingredients list very clearly shows those are not for vaping

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by SvenskGhotiabout 6 years ago

> The ingredients list very clearly shows those are not for vaping

Dude, I'd been mixing for years when you first created your current account and even I have to ask, given the following:

(1) you've still got /u/SumDudeYouKnow's post linked in the sidebar that explains about how essential oils aren't lipids and therefore lipid pneumonia's not a concern;
(2) the other ingredients listed at a glance just look like run-of-the-mill common aromatic compounds, not anything warranting concern; and
(3) that two out of three of the flavors OP has are for sale on BCF right now (middle bottle in the pic, right bottle in the pic)

...specifically which ingredients are you seeing that aren't for vaping?

Please name them. If they're any cause for concern I'll happily retract this comment, but if not then I must ask that you retract yours.

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by Rotor_Tillerabout 6 years ago

Even then most lipids can't cause lipid pneumonia. Only mineral oil or animal based oils are long enough to get stuck in the lungs.

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by mammoth5about 6 years ago

Actually i'm an idiot and i never bothered translating the website when i bought them. But once translated, it clearly states that they're for eliquids. Here are the ones that I bought:

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https://www.inawera.com/natural-grapefruit-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-224.html

https://www.inawera.com/raspberry-comestible-flavour-10-ml-p-1145.html

https://www.inawera.com/lime-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-1475.html

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So now I don't know what to do.

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by Lizzebedabout 6 years ago

You just go and use them. Yes concentrated like this these can be dangerous and an irritant. But!

You will only use 1-2% in your mix or so. Which is fine.

It is like a lot of other stuff that has warnings written all over them, but in small amounts it is perfectly safe.

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by 3000nitroabout 6 years ago

Which ones them ingredients are in loads of flavors

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Um no.

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by 3000nitroabout 6 years ago

? bit rude eh

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by Lizzebedabout 6 years ago

Of course you should not vape concentrated flavors straight like that, or ingest or use them as an ointment. Of course that is quite dangerous.

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This is my pineapple:

http://imgur.com/6M1gWmX

http://imgur.com/IFVzUSQ

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You've got big plans there though. I never felt the need to buy big bottle of inawera, besides that ananas of course. Can make a litre with just a couple of 10mls.

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by humanpuckabout 6 years ago

"If swallowed immediately call a doctor" + "No Smoking" should be the first indicator that you shouldn't vape this.

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by mammoth5about 6 years ago

Actually i'm an idiot and i never bothered translating the website when i bought them. But once translated, it clearly states that they're for eliquids. Here are the ones that I bought:

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https://www.inawera.com/natural-grapefruit-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-224.html

https://www.inawera.com/raspberry-comestible-flavour-10-ml-p-1145.html

https://www.inawera.com/lime-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-1475.html

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So now I don't know what to do.

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by humanpuckabout 6 years ago

Honestly if that's what you got then you should be fine. The whole "If swallowed call a doctor" is a major red flag to me. I'm not sure wtf is going on there since it literally says its for E-Liquid. If you use them to add to a diy mix I'm sure its fine. Those labels though...

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by juthincabout 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

Note that "if swallowed, call a doctor" is reasonable advice for any number of things which, if diluted, are reasonably safe.

Doing shots of 190proof can be harmful to your health. But practically anyone could handle a shot of 30proof. (So long as they can raise the glass themselves. Newborns, people in comas, etc are obvious exceptions.)

1 points
 
by Lizzebedabout 6 years ago

Who smokes, SMOKES, yes that thing with fire, concentrated flavors, or even juice?

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Why would you even try doing that?

1 points
 
by humanpuckabout 6 years ago

I don't know...maybe people put this in their hookah's and smoke it with tobacco.

1 points
 
by Lizzebedabout 6 years ago

That is what their shisha line is for? . . . Oh wait....

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by AttemptedButFailedabout 6 years ago

It seems like some kind of candle oil for oil burners. I’m not 100% sure though

1 points
 
by bl4ckn4pkinsabout 6 years ago

What flavor is the one with the rose ketones?

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by 3000nitroabout 6 years ago

Op these are fine to vape i use them in my liquids and my bottles say the same(original inawera 100ml bottles) . Very bad info in the replies . All flavours have these warnings like this check Msds/ sds on all flavour companies sites.

They are Raspberry Malina , Lime Limetka and Natural grapefruit for anyone else wondering .If you worried by this i would suggest vaping vg/pg on it's own .

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by Rotor_Tillerabout 6 years ago

Looks like a bunch of uneducated people downvoted you. Here's an upvote.

1 points
 
by Keyskid115about 6 years ago

I just gagged....thanks

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by mammoth5about 6 years ago

Actually i'm an idiot and i never bothered translating the website when i bought them. But once translated, it clearly states that they're for eliquids. Here are the ones that I bought:

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https://www.inawera.com/natural-grapefruit-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-224.html

https://www.inawera.com/raspberry-comestible-flavour-10-ml-p-1145.html

https://www.inawera.com/lime-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-1475.html

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So now I don't know what to do.

1 points
 
by 3000nitroabout 6 years ago

>level 13000nitro

What flavors do you vape bro ?

1 points
 
by pathos6901about 6 years ago

"Avoid breathing vapor" that's the one warning that really caught my attention. Aren't you supposed to breathe the vapor when using ejuice?

1 points
 
by MindsEye_69about 6 years ago

Yes, but it's important to discern between inhaling vapors from a concentrate, and breathing vapors from a solution where that concentrate is diluted to a tiny fraction of it's original state.

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by [deleted]about 6 years ago

That true. Either way it's pretty scary though. I'm a vaper and my e juice vapor can be inhaled any which way you like. If it's so strong that one needs to be super careful around it, then that's something to think about.

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouabout 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Since you seem to have gotten your answer, is 100ml the smallest size when purchasing direct? That would probably last me a decade :)

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by mammoth5about 6 years ago

They have 10ml as well. I bought that lime in 100ml about 2 years ago but iot didn't come with these warnings on it then.

1 points
 
by _zenithabout 6 years ago

These are perfectly fine to use. There is a misunderstanding of "oils" here. These are essential oils - either short chain aliphatic or aromatic compounds that will not cause lipid pneumonia.

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by upboatugboatabout 6 years ago

Maybe it's because it's not for vaping and therefore much cheaper, but that's a hell of alot of extract unless you paid a small fortune.

Don't bother buying anything over 30ml unless you've bought it before and vaped it for a few days. Also check out e-liquid-recipes.com and go to resources, flavors, and then sort by #recipes and you'll have the most common flavorings listed, sort through the first page or so and you'll be far less disappointed. The ones you bought probably wouldn't have made good ejuice anyways to be completely honest. Just cheat and pick flavorings that have already been tested and have a reputation, no blind brand loyalty in flavors.

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by mammoth5about 6 years ago

i know it's a lot. it's because i use these flavours in a recipe of my own that i've been making for years. the difference is that up until this time i've been buying those flavours from UK vendors who rebottle the concentrates - i wasn't clear whether i've bought the same thing direct from inawera or whether i've bought something else by accident.

1 points
 
by MindsEye_69about 6 years ago

That's like 5 years worth of raspberry Melina. That shit is crazy potent and should be used under 0.5%. it's worth noting that inawera does have a lot of oil flavorings that you should not vape. As an example, I once bought a Blood Orange flavouring that separated instantly in red oil drops that floated in my mix. (Tossed the mix and got refund). The lable had evil warning marks on it. Do not breathe, combustible, and the evil one with the dead trees and fish.. needless to say it was not safe to vape.

Just be careful and when in doubt, email the manufacturer.

1 points
 
by mammoth5about 6 years ago

These flavourings do not separate in solution, at least from past experience using the "same" bought in the UK. Thanks for the advice.

-1 points
 
by Sociofuneticabout 6 years ago

Don't use those. Do you have a link where you bought it?

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by mammoth5about 6 years ago

I bought them from inawera.com

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by mammoth5about 6 years ago

Actually i'm an idiot and i never bothered translating the website when i bought them. But once translated, it clearly states that they're for eliquids. Here are the ones that I bought:

​

https://www.inawera.com/natural-grapefruit-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-224.html

https://www.inawera.com/raspberry-comestible-flavour-10-ml-p-1145.html

https://www.inawera.com/lime-comestible-concentrate-10-ml-p-1475.html

​

So now I don't know what to do.

1 points
 
by Sociofuneticabout 6 years ago

Polish flavor concentrates. The title of the category was comestable. They have a forum running vb. Super small so I would venture unless they have employees manning it your questions are still better here.

-4 points
 
by cjinctabout 6 years ago

That looks like Natural Grapefruit, lime and raspberry flavors. Probably 90% of the people here have vaped at least one of those. I regularly use 2 of them.

What's the issue?

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by slappytheclownabout 6 years ago

> What's the issue?

the ingredient list

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by cjinctabout 6 years ago

Ingredients from TPA Natural Grapefruit:

d-Limonene
Myrcene
beta-Pinene
p-Mentha-1,4-diene
alpha-Pinene
Citral
Terpinolene
Geraniol

And some of the warnings from the SDS cheet:

Grapefruit Natural Concentrate** 22262Product:1Version:
H317, May cause an allergic skin reaction.
H319, Causes serious eye irritation.

Precautionarystatements:

P210, Keep away from heat, sparks, open flames and hot surfaces. - No smoking.
P233, Keep container tightly closed.
P240, Ground/bond container and receiving equipment.
P241, Use explosion-proof electrical, ventilating and lighting equipment.
P242, Use only non-sparking tools.
P243, Take precautionary measures against static discharge.
P261, Avoid breathing vapour or dust.
P264, Wash hands and other contacted skin thoroughly after handling.
P272, Contaminated work clothing should not be allowed out of the workplace.
P280, Wear protective gloves/eye protection/face protection.
P301/310, IF SWALLOWED: Immediately call a POISON CENTER or doctor/physician.
P303/361/353, IF ON SKIN (or hair): Remove/take off immediately all contaminated clothing.Rinse skin with water/shower.
P305/351/338, IF IN EYES: Rinse cautiously with water for several minutes. Remove contactlenses, if present and easy to do. Continue rinsing.
P331, Do not induce vomiting.
P333/313, If skin irritation or rash occurs: Get medical advice/attention.
P337/313, If eye irritation persists: Get medical advice/attention.
P362, Take off contaminated clothing and wash before reuse.
P370/378, In case of fire: Use carbon dioxide, dry chemical, foam for extinction.
P403/235, Store in a well-ventilated place. Keep cool.
P405, Store locked up.
P501, Dispose of contents/container to approved disposal site, in accordance with localregulations.

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by slappytheclownabout 6 years ago

point taken

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by lurkinredditabout 6 years ago

What about the fact that there's no oils in the TPA ingredients. I thought oils were a no no cause the lipid fats?

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