As always, the purpose of this thread is to gather the community to explore a category of flavor and its many uses. And it's also to have FUN!
Post recipes containing this week's Flavor of the Week, as the star or in a supporting role, with or without development notes. Talk about other people's recipes that use it. Compare and contrast different manufacturers' versions of the FOTW. Ask for help using that flavor in general or to achieve something specific, offer advice, brainstorm ideas, consider substitutions, suggest pairings... really anything at all as long as it's on topic.
#This week's flavor is...PUDDING & BREAD PUDDING!
How did that get to be the FOTW?
It was requested! If you're not interested in the upcoming FOTWs, please take this opportunity and comment to request one that interests you (or send me a PM to do that).
Past FOTW posts can be found here
The NOTED podcasts, which are basically video FOTWs, are listed on this sheet, maintained by /u/apexified
Next week's flavor will be: Cucumber
The week after that will be: Dragonfruit & Starfruit & Snakefruit
The week after that will be: Lychee
The week after that will be: Grapefruit
The week after that will be: Apricot
The week after that will be: New World-brand Strawberries (TFA, CAP, FLV, WF, LB, PUR, etc)
The week after that will be: Old World-brand Strawberries (FA, JF, INW, etc)
The week after that will be: Far East-brand Strawberries (FE/SC, HS, HC, VT, etc)
The week after that will be: Energy Drinks
The week after that will be: Sugary Candy (Pixie Sticks, Sweet Tarts)
The week after that will be: Eggnog
The week after that will be: Red Licorice & Swedish Fish
The week after that will be: Pound & Butter Cake
The week after that will be: Sponge & Fluffy Cake
The week after that will be: Chocolate Cake
The week after that will be: New World-brand Custards (TFA, CAP, FLV, WF, LB, PUR, etc)
The week after that will be: Old World-brand Custards (FA, JF, INW, etc)
The week after that will be: Far East-brand Custards (FE/SC, HS, HC, VT, etc)
The week after that will be: Currant
The week after that will be: Custard Apples (Cherimoya, Guanabana, Soursop)
|Flavor Facts - Pudding| |---| |FOTW - Pudding 1| |Noted - Pudding on YT| |Noted - Pudding on DoD| |Pudding Recipes on ATF| |Pudding Recipes on ELR|
To see Flavor Facts for other flavor profiles - CLICK HERE
|Flavor|Company|Review|ATF|ELR| |---|---|---|---|---| |Queen of Puddings|Chefs| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Vanilla Pudding|Flavorah| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Banana Nut Pudding|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Bread Pudding|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Pistachio Pudding|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Rice Pudding|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Tapioca Pudding|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Vanilla Pudding|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Bread Pudding|Real Flavors|by PerennialPhilosopher|On ATF|On ELR| |Bread Pudding 2|Real Flavors| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Butterscotch Pudding|Real Flavors| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Rice Pudding|Real Flavors|by ConcreteRiver|On ATF|On ELR| |Pudding Base|Vape Train| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Xmas Pudding|Vape Train| - - - |On ATF|On ELR|
Would VT Chocolate Mousse count? I mean mousse is just a light fluffy pudding... And there seems to bea sad lack of the best type of pudding (chocolate) as well as two of the tied for second best type of pudding (banana and ccocnut) although the other two of the second-best pudding types (pistachio and butterscotch) are represented... As well as the four worst puddings (vanilla, tapioca, rice, bread)....
A few years back when I was getting into the stride of making my own recipes, I asked a friend, 'If I could make you any juice, what would it be?' and he answered 'Something like that nilla wafers banana pudding you used to buy' (he was talking about ITC Vapes Nilla Gorilla). So I sat down and tried to clone it, and after a few revisions, I made something close to Nilla Gorilla but still my own, and it's a recipe he still requests to this day, so I think it's good enough to post here. My ELR recipes profile is pretty much all private (this is the first recipe I went back and unchecked that box for), but I think I'm gonna start making some of my favorites public. Anyway, here's my recipe for-
Nilla Wafer Banana Pudding (I know, super creative name haha)
Banana Cream (TFA) - 5% (I know LA is standard, more on that below)
Biscuit (INW) - 1%
Graham Cracker (Clear) (TFA) - 3%
Marshmallow (CAP/TFA) - 1.25% (Note on this below as well)
Sugar Cookie (CAP) - 4%
Vanilla Custard (CAP) - 3%
Vanilla Swirl (TFA) - 2%
I was going for a clone of Nilla Gorilla from ITC Vapes when I was brainstorming on this one. I had a few tweaks here and there with the Biscuit, Sugar Cookie, and Graham Cracker (and some other Vanillas and Creams, turns out the classics are the classics for a reason!) trying to balance the wafer note while keeping that pudding taste/mouthfeel. And I know, I know, I really should get LA Banana Cream, but I bought a boatload of TFA a while back and hey, it works. (Plus it seems to never run out on me, I think I got 8 or 12 ozs one order or another haha)
Subbing LA for TFA would probably work, but I haven't worked with it (don't judge me), so it'll probably require % adjustments all around to keep the pudding and wafer base profile balanced. The %s would most likely change all around, but it's at least a starting point for LA owners.
I made this recipe when Capella's Marshmallow was amazing, so I would (and do) add a touch of Vanilla Tahity (like a couple of drops, or say 0.25%) to replicate that delicious old formula (I honestly do this a lot with TFA marshmallow in bakeries, desserts, custards, etc..I honestly do this almost always, I should probably just add 0.25-0 5% to the 4oz bottle of TFA Marshmallow haha).
Also, adding a small amount of Cinnamon Danish Swirl/Cinnamon Roll or similar definitely doesn't hurt if you want a little cinnamon kick to it. 1% or lower depending on how prominent you want it.
Reccomended Steep: 1 week+ You want to give it some time for the banana to calm down and the wafer note to come forward, and to allow the Vanillas, Marshmallow, and the cream in the Banana Cream to meld into a pudding base. Enjoy!
That looks super yummy! Would love to see some more of those privates unveiled!
Thank you! Yeah, it's nice and simple but turns out pretty nicely, and like most of my recipes, they use the 5 or 6 old school flavorings (TFA, CAP, FW, FA, FLV, INW, maybe one or two more I'm not remembering). My recipe page(s) are a mess haha, I believe it's 9 pages of original recipes, tweaks/Ver. 1.**'s, and adaptations of other mixer's recipes to accommodate my stash/change from the posted 10-30ml to my preferred 60 or 120ml. I definitely wouldn't want to publicly publish a 60ml adapt or slight ingredient change of someone else's recipe as my own, so I'm really gonna have to go through my pages on my laptop (not my phone like this one) and double check that 'Adapted From' on each before making them public. But I do want to share my recipes with the communities, so that will definitely be happening soon!
This looks so good. I've been trying to find a nilla wafer/pudding recipe that suits me! I have LA and really dont like it. Thank you for this!
No problem! Yeah, my friend who first inspired me to make it still buys it today 3 1/2 years later, so it must have something to it! I've obviously had it before as well, and I do enjoy it too, this was the version where I perfectly balanced the nilla and creams that become a pudding. I haven't had LAs, but the Cream of the Banana Cream plays with the others, so if you're subbing/leaving it out or LAs cream part is low, bump up the creams/vanilla/marshmallow just a bit to compensate.
Adding a touch (just a touch, like 1% or lower) of Cinnamon Danish Swirl gives a pretty nice dessert cinnamon back note, and CDS plays with both parts (the Danish adds a kick to the wafer and the Swirl adds a kick to the creams. FW Cinnamon Roll just adds a cinnamon kick and boosts the wafer slightly, as it's really a non creamy version of CDS). That's completely up to you though. It's a pretty customizable recipe if you keep the nilla pudding base in the back of your head while adding stuff, like I believe I made a Bilberry version once? But forget what cream I used if any to compensate for replacing Banana Cream's Cream. Probably just boosted everything else creamy by a % or so. Have fun with it, and feel free to adapt it and play around if you want!
Is there a good neutral pudding (north amerrican style) base, to make good (ie not vanilla) flavor puddings with? Or is it a matter of needing to find infdivudual chocolate/banana/coconut/butterscotch pudding flavors?
VT Pudding Base
I haven't tried it personally but came across it the other day, here's a flavor review from someone on Bull City Flavors:
Tested at .44 OHM 26/36 SS clapton, 6.5 wraps, 35 WATT. Flavor strength at 3%, 80VG/20PG mix. This flavor is pretty spot on for a pudding base. No vanilla, no chocolate, no other flavors beyond milk, starch, butter and sugar. Pretty dang good solo, will get a lot of use in mixes i feel. I wouldnt go much higher then 6% as that starch taste might overwhelm.
Pretty sure VT pudding base is UK style pudding. As in not the simple thick creamy smooth sweet stuff, more the weird shite those wankers eat, like yorkshire pudding. (Not that yorkshire pudding isn't good with some nice beef, gravy, and horseradish... but...)
This if your break before a whole slew of cucumber? Enjoy!
Did custard apples make the radar?
Plus, I’m assuming you have the namesake for a special guest on noted?
German Flavours Vanille Pudding (available from Vapers Tek https://www.vaperstek.org/vanilla-pudding-aroma/ )
Have you tried that or are you just pointing out that it exists?
I've tried it . . . and like it quite a bit. It's different than FLV . . . I find it to be more buttery and starchy than their offering. It has a pretty excellent vanilla note, as well. It has a sorta/kinda musty note (perhaps due to that more pronounced starchiness) to it that I kind of dig. I like it between 2-4%. Much like JF Cookie v2, I see it used rarely or not at all and assume it's just my plebeian palate that leads me to like them as much as I do.
Or it’s just not a widely available flavor and it’s waiting for someone like you to shine a light on it with an awesome looking recipe. I might pick some up next time I’m getting Nic or some INW tobacco from Vapers Tek. I forgot it existed and had more or less given up on the GF line after Pear and Pear Yogurt made me want to die and a couple of their other flavors were subpar.
Ditto on the cookie V2, except I have picked that one up and just not gotten around to trying it yet.
Man, I was really looking forward to trying a couple of recipes of yours this week but I’m out of luck due to poor inventory control... I didn’t realize how low I was running on FLV Vanilla Custard until I went to mix them up.