ATF Link to recipe: https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/154364
Co. | Flavor | % ---|---|---- INW | Cherries | 4 INW | Pineapple | 4.5 CAP | Sweet Guava | 2.5 CAP | Yellow Peach | 1.5 FA | Armenia (Apricot) | 1.5 TFA | Smooth | 0.25 FW | Sweetener | 1
THIS IS HAWAIIAN PUNCH
If you've ever wanted to vape Hawaiian Punch and been frustrated by flavors like TFA Hawaiian Islands Punch Type, FW Tropical Punch, CAP Silverline Tropical Fruit Punch, and FLV Tropical Punch, which fall short, this recipe is for you.
Sweetener is optional but so highly recommended that I've left the high amount of FW Sweetener that I prefer with it in the recipe. It drives that super sugary drink experience home. You could use less. If you don't have FW and want to use CAP Super Sweet, 0.5 to 0.75% should get 'er done. Or again, use less if you prefer. TFA Sweetener is not recommended here. Coolants are optional but are not recommended. WS-23 kinda ruins it, unfortunately. A touch of FA Polar Blast doesn't hurt much, but it does somewhat distract from the experience.
This recipe is the product of a partnership in which I played a relatively minor role. I asked /u/AlfredPudding why he does this to me, refuses full credit for his work like he did with the Back Nine recipe and makes me be the one to share it, and he says it's to torture me. That's ok, I like the abuse. But this time, instead of merely asserting that Alfred did all the work and moving along to notes about individual flavors, I offer a mostly unredacted description of the development of this recipe:
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This all started when I tried Alfred's Cherry Bomb and told him I thought it was about 5% INW Pineapple shy of Hawaiian Punch.
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He sent me back a recipe he called "Counter Point" that did indeed have 5% INW Pineapple, but also had more Cherries, less Sweet Guava, FA Forest Fruit instead of Rainbow Candy, and CAP Yellow Peach instead of TFA Jackfruit.
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So I tried that and responded with "Counter Counter Point" - A recipe with little less Pineapple, a little less Peach, a little more Sweet Guava, some TFA Smooth to blend it together, and a bunch of sweetener that it seemed to be crying out for. Minor adjustments and fairly obvious additions.
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I got back a Counter Counter Counter Point, with a hair less Apricot and no more Forest Fruit. This was Hawaiian Punch.... but yet... not. It was too soft. More like Hawaiian love tap.
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The only difference in this final version is half as much Smooth as the Counter Counter Counter Point, as it is still providing the blending it needed but not over-softening its punch.
We have a standard set in this subreddit that "Recipes belong in the monthly thread, UNLESS they offer SIGNIFICANT development notes or other info that helps mixers up their game." I'm not sure this quite meets the standard as is, unless the significant thing I'm offering you to help you up your game is "Get AlfredPudding to do almost all the work." But let's see if we can pressure him to get in there and make sense of this wizardry. For the uninitiated, 4% INW Cherries should be 100% Robitussin, but I promise you it is not plastic cherry nightmare medicine here. This is Hawaiian Punch. We deserve an explanation, Mr. Pudding.
Wow this looks like an awesome fruit punch recipe! I just need to order some flavors to try it out. Do you think it works so well because INW Pineapple has some ethyl caproate, FA Armenia is loaded with lactones, and CAP Sweet Guava has some more of that sweet butyrate action? I don't know how you did it again, but color me impressed.
I read 4% INW Cherries as the recipe for the bottle that holds the actual recipe.
I'm only missing TFA Smooth for this. I'd like to try this but don't have much use for Smooth other than this one recipe, is it worth getting in your opinion?
It’s $1.29 for 10 ml from BCF, so if you’re in the US it’s definitely worth adding to your next order.
More often than not, we’re purposely trying to avoid muddling our recipes. We want those individual flavors to show up separately at different points in the vape for that experience of something on top of something else, like Custard with fruit on it or cake with icing. But if you’re trying force different flavors to mix together like this, it’s indispensable.
For example with this recipe, they just weren’t blending properly. There was a bit of identifiable pineapple at first, some punch in the middle, and then some peach trailing at the end of the vape. Add Smooth and boom! Now it’s all mashed together into one thing. I’m sure you can see how that would be useful, especially for things like candy, which Hawaiian Punch essentially is, liquid candy.
You just have to be really careful with it. Too much and it will mute and soften your recipe to shit. It also tastes like coconut if you use too much, but you should get the over-softening long before you taste coconut unless you’re mixing it with other flavors that contain coconut tasting components for it to join forces with.
Thanks for this, I'm EU but you are right, TFA is cheap so I'll just get it with my next order.
For forcing or blending flavors together I solely relied on TFA Dragonfruit so this might come in handy one day when I want to blend things without adding fruit. Now I kind of want to throw all of my coconut flavors together and tfa smooth em' too see what happens.
Yes, you get it. It does what Dragonfruit does, but more efficiently and without Dragonfruit flavor. It does have some coconut flavor to it, but again, you shouldn't be able detect that unless you're using way too much or mixing it with something that already has gamma octalactone in it.
Will FA vape wizard work the same as TFA smooth??
Actually, INW cherries is one of that rare breed... Cherry flavor with minimal off taste.
Now, granted I normally stick around 3% at most with it, but...
Hmm... So i need to ask alfred for some development tweaks for a future recipe, eh? Noted.
I can’t vape 4% Cherries stand-alone without feeling like I’m taking medicine. But yeah, it’s certainly much, much less horrible than most other Cherries.
And yes, that’s the lesson here. Get /u/AlfredPudding to do all the work and you’re gold.
Kewl.
I need someone to work out a particular muffin recipe that I think would work as part of a dessert tobacco, so maybe I'll pester AP
So I don't have Yellow Peach, but I do have Juicy Peach (DX and not DX), FW Peach, and FA White Peach. Would any of those almost-kinda work as a substitute? I'm vaping Cherry Bomb right now and I'd love to try this.
DX Peach (Juicy) should work well enough until you get the Yellow Peach. It won't be nearly as delicious as the Yellow Peach version, but the overall effect should be similar. I would probably go with .5-.75%.
That's an /u/AlfredPudding question but FA White Peach is so different from other peaches I think I can definitely rule that one out. FW Peach tastes a little fermented to me and I worry about how whatever makes it taste that way would play here. Juicy Peach has got so much going on in that bottle, I just don't know what would happen.
But we need Alfred to ask him if DX Peach Juicy has what this needs. I can tell you that the amount of peach here really matters, 0.5% too much and it still tasted too peachy on the end there. So even if it would would work, I imagine would only "almost kinda" work until the amount was dialed in tight.
Honestly you should just get the CAP Yellow Peach. Here are two recipes that use it that I can personally vouch for:
And there are others that are on my to-mix list because they look awesome, like this California Sunset