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TFA Western
submitted over 6 years ago by RancerDS

Setup: Griffin 25 w/ Ultrabo Ni80 single Clapton @0.72 ohms, ~17 watts

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Testing: 3.5% stand alone in 10 mL mix; 65/35 VG base w/no nicotine

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Flavor Description: A flat, low musk tobacco with a leathery tone and slightly woody. It leans toward a somewhat dried-out cigarillo. Does not taste ashy. Nor does it have that rich tobacco flavoring found in dark leaf (that could be good or bad, depending upon personal taste).

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Off Notes/Mouth Feel: It comes across as mostly dry with notes of dust. It has maybe a tad bit of bitterness on the finish. Definitely will feel as if you need to hydrate the more you vape it.

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Throat Hit: I'm not getting a throat hit, but it may be there at higher wattages. It definitely has a bite to it; more noticeable the longer you vape it, but mostly on the tongue.

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Uses: I imagine there won't be too many people that will vape this by itself. Even with a drop of sweetener, you're still going to feel like it's a fairly plain tobacco that's missing a few things. Yet I've successfully mixed a butter pecan, caramel and vanilla swirl [in small amounts] to slightly sweeten and really smooth it out. Also mixed sweet tobacco with it and found they tend to negate each other. So you can mute any oats/grass you might get from any other concentrates.

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Pure Speculation: It isn't dark or rich enough to feel that cherry or grape would be a good combination with it. Maybe if someone is really bored and wanted to try it to see. The butter pecan really seems to moderate that leather, pushing it to the back... while still noticeable, but in a good sort of way. I wouldn't try to use this to make an RY4 or to replace it. Nor would I suggest using this instead of Burley or Cavendish tobacco flavors. It might sub out okay in place of a light Virginia or Connecticut leaf. I believe an apple or pear fruit combination would be pretty good with it. Maybe banana would work with it? Maybe peach... but I doubt Raspberry or any fruits that have any kind of acidic/sour/tart/bitter notes present. Since fruit-flavored cigarillos were never my thing, probably not going to find out first-hand. If you want to retch due to some of those rich, thick and syrupy tobaccos; this one might taste pretty good to you.

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En Summa: This is the only flavor that I'm considering buying in the 2 ounce size. It seems like laying off of it for a week or so, my brain starts reminiscing about the aforementioned additions (under Uses). There have been a few that simply won't use it but they may have dismissed it after single-flavor testing. It's understandable because vaping it straight, you won't feel like it brings much value. But if you're going to experiment, you might be very surprised!

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by gunthersluntover 6 years ago

I mix it @ 10% with 5% Cap Custard and 2% TFA Toasted Marshmallow and it's a very smooth cig replacement

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by isuamadogover 6 years ago

Thank you for doing this one. There’s definitely better tobaccos out there, however I actually enjoy this one at 3% with some menthol. After about two weeks it mellows out a bit. If you want to see how that leather can be used as an accent, try Silk Road by u/juthinc. Used at 0.25% it’s like a spice that blends into the whole mix but lets the rest shine.

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by juthincover 6 years ago

Yeah... The rationale for it's use is: yes, leather is a flavor component for tobacco, but tfa western goes overboard, it needs to be a component, not the whole flavor...and mamy other flavors miss that component. So basically the trick is building a fuller tobacco profile by using bits of slightly more one dimensional tobacco flavors. (Not that one dimensional is bad on its own, tho.)

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by isuamadogover 6 years ago

That Silk Road is pretty lovely. I just finished my last batch and would totally mix that one again. But more importantly loved that soft touch of chocolate and cinnamon and hint of leather. Will completely steal that soon.

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by juthincover 6 years ago

Like I said before, chocolate cinnamon tobacco is what RY4 should have been. So much better...

But if you want to mix up a new tobacco recipe... I'm just in the development stages right now on something that I could use another perspective on...

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by juthincover 6 years ago

Just thought of this... Chocolate, cinnamon, abd a hint of leather. Just need flowers and its a perfect Valentine's recipe.

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by oth72over 6 years ago

Thanks for you sharing your notes for Western TFA . Its a good a falvor for tobacoo fans for me i did use it and i keep buying it again. Western 1% Coconut Candy (TPA) 0.5 % Bavarian cream (TPA) 2 % Vanilla Swirl (TPA) 1.5 %
Custrad (INW) 1% 70/30 VG/PG Steep 15+ days its Amazing.

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by RancerDSover 6 years ago

This sounds good. I don't have the custard, so may something similar. :) Thanks for sharing it!

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by oth72over 6 years ago

You can use any kind of custard TFA,CAP, but it needs more steep to hit to sweet spot or you can use Vanilla with caramel or butterscotch.

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