Converting a recipe to high nic

submitted over 6 years ago by urs1ne

I love the recipe "Flawless: Aftermath clone by DUNKNDRIP" with 3mg salt nic at 70/30 but when I mix the same recipe at 45mg and at 50/50 it tastes very bland and I only get a little bit of flavor on the exhale. It has steeped for a couple weeks which is way more than enough for the original recipe but my high nic version is really blah.

Any thoughts or suggestions on things I can try to get that same great flavor? Maybe upping the flavor mix from 15.5% to 20% or something?

Berry (Crunch) Cereal (TPA) - 1%

Blueberry Extra (TPA) - 6%

Glazed Doughnut (CAP) - 3.5%

Sweetener (Sucralose/Maltol) (TPA) - 2%

Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (FW) - 3%

Comments

3 points

by upboatugboatover 6 years ago

Nicotine salt contains benzoic acid, its not something they add to nicotine salts themselves, its fundamentally a part of the molecule. It was a happy coincidence that the change in acidity makes it far less harsh, but as a result it affects flavor and theres nothing you can do. Theres always speculation that it can vary by vendor to vendor, but at the end of the day you cant eliminate this effect. Ive had the juice you have cited in this thread and imo its not a flavor you want to tinker with at high nicotine levels with salts. My general rule of thumb is to stick strictly to fruit flavors above 30mg. If youve tried Juul Custard in contrast with custards in freebase recipes youll find right off the bat that not even they could nail this flavor and make it an ADV worthy flavor.

ill leave you with my two favorite salt recipes. PS. INW Cactus is your friend.

Melon Man Dango

Mango Unchained

2 points

by urs1neover 6 years ago

That's actually a really interesting insight. I've never had a good salt nic flavor that wasn't a fruit either. I sincerely appreciate the input and I will give a good fruit recipe a shot.

2 points

by kingsidtheslothover 6 years ago

I’ve been having the same problems! What type of nic additive are you using?

2 points

by urs1neover 6 years ago

PurNicSalt - Smooth salt liquid nicotine 100mg/ml, VG based

1 points

by kingsidtheslothover 6 years ago

Are you adding just pg after you add the nicotine? Vg doesn’t hold flavor well. I only say this because you said you do a 50/50 mix. You basically have all your needed vg in the salt base

1 points

by urs1neover 6 years ago

Yes, the nicotine is the only VG I add.

1 points

by TimInElmiraover 6 years ago

Oddly, all my custards are good at 70/30, but blah at 50/50. I don't get it but that is what it does. I don't use nicotine.

1 points

by cidghoulover 6 years ago

Higher vg does add sweetness

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by cidghoulover 6 years ago

I up flavor percentages roughly around 1.5x (or higher) what id use for low nic recipes. Usually works out great. And my high nic mix is 70vg 30pg.

1 points

by urs1neover 6 years ago

Thank you, I'll give that a try

1 points

by vApe_Escapeover 6 years agoTobacconist

I mix from 3mg up to 18mg and don't change my recipe. I haven't had any issues. When you buy juice online(especially back in the day when 3mg to 18mg or 24mg were available from commercial juice companies) the recipe doesn't change either so I don't feel its needed really.

Edit: just saw you were talking about 45mg. i don't have any experience that high but I would say it is not the juice itself but rather the device/coil/power/temp.