In your opinion is the juice y'all make as good as store bought stuff made by big companies?
Yes. Packaging and the psychology is a big big part of retail juice.
Plus some of those big ones like VW give me the recipe when I ask on reddit. That is cool.
If I might ask, where do you go to ask for these recipes? There are a few VW juices I'd like to make myself.
It's better.
I'd rather hate vape my shitty recipes attempts than half the "premium" shit at a b&m.
So flavor wise how does your DIY stack up against store bought juices
It's just better. Cleaner, easier on coils, cheaper.
Ultimately there is NO difference in what we use to make our juice and what the "premiums" use in their stuff. Same exact ingredients, sometimes better. The major difference is taking the time to develop the recipe instead of relying on sweeteners to mask potential flaws.
I can vape something that is exactly what I want it to be. It's not a half assed recipe drowned in sweetener to cover a bad recipe.
Actually more often than not it’s simply better. Better flavors to achieve the same thing. Can adjust a mix to meet a mood. The price simply cannot be beat so even when I hate vape my own mixes, I’m happier than when I used to buy a 30 and be like fuck now I have to vape this $20.
Currently vaping single flavor mixes that I whipped up to test and even though only one note, way better than half the shit I’ve bought.
I still have a 120ml of Carmel waffle cappuccino and I’m vaping some diy coffee with milk. If I decide tomorrow I want it with waffle and caramel I can just do that.
My worst mix is still my worst mix. I might not share all my recipes that are meh but I like them just fine.
Plus the process is really fun.
I'll be modest here and say, that my juice is better than commercial juice in some cases. Not to mention cheaper.
I have made some pretty terrible disaster recipes, where some commercial juice is probably better, but overall I'd stay at just as good.
Plus once you really get into DIY, your mind starts to convert to DIY way of thinking and automatically, your cravings for commercial juice vanishes.
Yes but even better because it's mine and I know exactly what I'm inhaling - something that isn't necessarily true when you use someone else's product.
My novice recipes will not win awards but they're exactly what I want at any given moment in time. It's extremely satisfying to enjoy something and think 'dang, I made this!'. Usually after a whole lot of 'what was I thinking'...
Mostly, I'll say it comes out as better. Occasionally I'll whiff outright and it goes in the bin, and on the odd occasion I mix something that falls in line with a commercial juice.
For me the biggest impetus to move into DIY wasn't to get "better" juice or cheaper juice but to get flavors I couldn't get commercially.
Much like food, there are going to be levels to the quality of what's available and acceptable without cooking yourself. The more effort you put in, the more you'll get back out of it. Some folks are okay with chef boyardee, some folks are cool with just heating up a jar of Prego, others will make their sauce from scratch. Different levels of effort, progressively better product, same base components.
It's a personal preference, I got into DIY because I've thrown out several liters of so-called premium juice, it turns out I just hate sweeteners and prefer simple recipes. I can also get the pgvg ratio and nic level I want (not necessarily a given with EU nic laws)
Better. Not always but usually. I hate the overly sweet juices. Odd as I survive off candy and whatnot.
I just wanna buy bottles off them for DIY and they seem to be the cheapest
Off who? Context?
I use nicotineriver for most everything. I switched to glass for the potential to reuse. Has been better than plastic. If you call around some shops will give or sell bottles. Have sone that in a pinch.
Also, I'll never understand how every time this questions gets asked or some variant of it people only focus on the super hyped super sweet juices. There are 1000s of different juices out there and not all companies are 30% TPA and 10%sweetener. There are some fantastic commercial juice companies.
Participated in taste tasting of several store both e-juices my friend got for his RTA, most of it went right into the sink. Some of it was used as a lube for his door, some went into the coffee and then into the sink. Only two bottles we found ok and kept, but nothing good really.
There are only few decent vendors and their juice is expensive+ ok at best.
Better. When I was buying I wasn't liking a lot of them. So I stuck with just a few that I liked. Now I have over 60 recipes that I like. If I try to make something and end up not liking it I can always do something to fix it. I haven't thrown anything down the drain because it tasted like shit.
It can be as good or even better, depending on what commercial juices you're used to and/or how good you are at mixing what you like. Most things I mix I enjoy more than anything I ever bought, with maybe one exception here or there. I see posts on occasion where someone will assume that because a company is fairly large and established that they somehow produce a more "quality" juice. Whether that's higher quality ingredients or whatever. Really though, the companies don't use anything that we as DIY-ers don't have access to. The flavorings are the same, bought from the same flavoring companies that the big dogs get it from. They just buy and mix in vastly larger quantities.
There's good commercial juice and there's atrocious commercial juice. Most of what's stocked in the shops local to me are chocked full of sweetener and heavily flavored. But there are also several companies online (Blue Dot, b-x, etc) that produce top notch stuff for affordable prices.
So having said all that I guess the answer is "it depends."
I'm very picky so I don't like most commercial juice. They tend to be overflavored, oversweetened or just bad. There are some good ones, but overall my good mixes are better. And my bad mixes cost maybe a $1 or so... so the loss of money in minuscule is comparison.
I watched a couple of YouTube videos this week. Comment in both was how some (many?) "premium" juices are simple three flavor recipes + sweetener: juice companies want simple recipes because more flavors means complexity and cost. Some companies will get a flavor compounder to mix what is essentially a one shot.
I wont go as far as say my juice is better, but I've definitely thrown out more commercial bottles than mine (zero). Go to a shop and they probably use one or two brands of flavors in their mixes, maybe a third in limited flavors, I have one recipe that uses 6 different brands of flavors. That doesn't mean it's a better recipe, but I can fine tune in ways a shop is limited and can't.
For me, I can say with certainty and all honesty that none of the juice I bought myself or samples I received (every time I order something from Vape Wild) are as good as the popular recipes from ELR that I mixed myself. I liked none of the juice I got from Vape Wild welcome sample pack (where you get 5 (or 6) 30ml bottles for $1.00).
Though to be fair, I haven't bought and tried that much commercial juices. But then again, you will find something you don't like about certain commercial juice, and there is nothing you can do. Mixing some popular recipes, and if you don't like something, or find something you can improve, you have all the power to do it. Adjust mixing percentage for certain flavor, add some flavor you like that could match well to existing recipes, etc. It takes time and *patience*, but there are ton of thing you can do. And most of all the satisfaction of vaping your own mixing you enjoyed.