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My Starting % List
submitted over 6 years ago by Vishousness

So far ive compiled this list of the flavors i have and their recomended starting percentages and notes to go with them still cant find anything on LA-Teaberry if you think the starting % is messed up or max or think theres a note to be added please comment.Most of this information is from all the recipes or this sub i just put the info together. Thank for your help in advance guys enjoy the rest of your week

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CAP-Black Currant-(4% Accent & Up to 8% primary)

CAP-Cinnamon Danish Swirl V1-(1% Accent & Up to 3% for bakery base)

CAP-Dragon Fruit -(1.5% Starting point, stay away from bright harsh flavors like green apples and pears. Berries, Pineapple, Guava, Pomegranate. Creams. Too bright and harsh for bakeries, or spices. Cactus for juiciness.

CAP-Glazed Donut-(2-3% Starting point said to taste like play doh to some)

CAP-Golden Pineapple-(0.5%-2% Accent & 3-5% Primary)

CAP-Grapefruit-(3% Starting point)

CAP-Hibiscus-(1-2% Accent/emulsifier & 4%primary, Base/Emulsifier for tropical fruits. Counterpoint for sharper tea flavors. Body for floral mixes.)

CAP-Italian Lemon Sicily-(2% Starting point)

Cap-Passionfruit-(2.5% Starting Point,accent to other fruit/berry flavors , or work well in a berries & cream recipe. Can be excellent standalone at highest percentages)

CAP-Sugar Cookie-( 3.5% Starting Point, Pastries, cakes, pies, etc. Standalone at a higher percentage)

CAP-Super Sweet -(**Use only as needed 1 drop/15ml**)

Cap-Sweet Guava (1-2% Accent & Up to 6%with non harsh fruits)

CAP-Sweet Lychee-(0.25-0.75% do not go over 1% )

CAP-Sweet Mango-(2% & under and avoid this as a main flavor, sweetness is hard to manage, along with that overripe flavor)

CAP-Sweet Tangerine-(2% Starting Point)

CAP-Vanilla Cupcake V1-(5% For cake with frosting, can be used as a cake flavor at higher percentages to bump up a bakery or as frosting at lower percentages.)

CAP-Vanilla Custard V1- (2-4%)

CAP-Vanilla Custard V2-(4% Or less )

CAP-Whipped Marshmallow-(3% Muted flavor needs to steep to taste like vanilla marshmallow)

FA-Bergamot-(0.1-0.3%)

FA-Bilberry-(0.5% And work up as desired so it doesn't over-power a mix. May also require a bit more steep time to reach full potential compared to most fruits.)

FA-Cardamom-(Around 2 drops per 10 ml or .05%, 0.2% for a coconuts or creams, 0.5% heavier chais or baked goods)

FA-Forest Fruit-(2-4% Accent & 5% Primary)

FA-Fuji-(1-4 %)

FA-Kiwi-(0.25-2% Accent &1-3% Primary )

FA-Mangosteen-(1-3% Needs a decent steep to get rid of floral note above 3%.)

FA-Meringue-(0.5% Mallow-like flavor, 1% Light fluffy white sugar note, 1-2% sweet milky quality.)

FA-Passionfruit-(0.5-1% Mixes well with other tropical flavors)

FA-Pistachio-(0.5 % Starting point)

FA-Vienna Cream-(1% Accent for richer creams)

FA-White Peach-(0.5-2.5% Accent & 2-3% Primary)

FLV-Pink Guava-(1% Accent & 2-3% Primary)

FW- Blood Orange-(2-3% Accent tends to separate)

FW-Tres Leche-(2-6% Would be good to thicken up custard vapes or even be good to add some moistness to bakeries)

INW-Biscuit (0.25-0.75%)

INW-Black Cherry (1-2%)

INW-Cactus (1-2% Adds juiciness or 1 drop/30 ml)

INW-Coconut-(0.5% Accent & 1-1.5% Primary)

INW-Dragon Fruit-(1% Non-Emulsifying tastes like actual dragon fruit )

INW-Melon-(1-2.5% Need higher % for Tank than RDA)

INW-Raspberry-(1% Max for accent)

LA-Banana Cream-(3% Starting point)

LA-Citrus Blossom-(1-3%)

PUR-Acai Berry-(2-4% Accent & 6-8% Primary)

PUR-Boysenberry-(2.5-4% Accent & 7-9% Primary)

PUR-Pomelo-(0.5%-2.7%)

PUR-Strawberry Rhubarb Smash-(6% For pie needs help with crust though)

RFSC-Yumberry-(1-1.5% Shake and Vape & 1.5-2.5% Steeping)

TPA-Banana Cream-(5% Starting Point)

TPA-Bavarian Cream-(2-5% Standalone flavor and a medium steep 3 to 7 days)

TPA-Blackberry-(0.75% Or less, Potent flavoring)

TPA-Champagne-(1% Any higher it is old wine)

TPA-Cherry Blossom-(3-5% To undertone things)

TPA-Philippine Mango-(3-5% Accent & 8-10% Primary)

TPA-Toasted Almond-(0.25% Bakeries, 1% Cream and custards, 2% max)

TPA-Coconut Candy-(1% Area)

TPA-Dragonfruit-(1% Accent for single fruit )

TPA-Elderberry-(0.5%-1.5%)

TPA-French Vanilla Creme-(2-3%)

TPA-Guava -(0.5-1%)

TPA-Hibiscus-(5% Or less)

TPA-Honeydew-(2% Or less)

TPA-Honeysuckle-(3% Or less-Cracks tanks)

TPA-Huckleberry-(0.3 % Or less)

TPA-Jackfruit-(1-4% Accent & 5% Primary )

TPA-Lychee-(3-4% Max -Potent)

TPA-Marshmallow-(2% Standalone flavor and a short steep overnight to 3 days).

TPA-Nectarine-(4% Max)

TPA-Pear Candy-(1.5-2%)

TPA-Quince-(0.5-1% Accent & .25-.75% Primary like apple and pear )

TPA-Ripe Strawberry-(5% Or less)

TPA-Rose Candy-(0.7% Max)

TPA-Vanilla Swirl-(1-5% Accent Cream )

TPA-Watermelon-(5% Or less candy watermelon )

WF-African Horned Cucumber-(1-4% Cross between cucumber kiwi and banana)

WF-Coconut Custard-(1-4%)

WF-Hibiscus Candy-(1.5% Starting point)

WF-Pistachio Cream-(2%)

WF-Saskatoon Berries-(.75% max)

WF-Soursop-(3% or less)

WF-Starfruit-(3% Mix between apple,pear and grape)

WF-Thai Apple-(2-3%)

WF-Yangmei Berries-(1-4% Max)

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Edit:most if not about 95% of this info was found using search-bar its a very valuable tool for novices like myself i recommend checking that before posting any questions

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by St1llFrankover 6 years ago

I got all the way down to TFA Blackberry and things looked good. But 5% for that flavor is overkill. I tested it at 2.5% and it was just ridiculously strong. There's no way that it was leaving my wicks. So I'd definitely keep it below 1%. But it's worth noting that it's one of TFA's more potent offerings. Good list!

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by MasterBeernutsover 6 years agoMixologist

Very much this. I think 0.75% was the highest I've gone with TFA Blackberry.

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

updated to 0.75 or less added note for potent flavor

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by HettDizzle4206over 6 years ago

I use it by itself at 4% and it tastes amazing. But for an accent, I'll keep this in mind!

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by Axfriedover 6 years ago

This is amazing - thank you so much for the effort you put into this!

Great reference for a novice mixer like me!

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

Keep an eye out for comments im a novice too but i was just trying to get a starting % list together cause i couldnt find one

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by OdieDoodahover 6 years agoThe Real MVP

Just an observation - you should use an extra zero.
Instead of typing .5 you should type 0.5
That will make it easier to read without mistakes.

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

I will edit as you say that makes sense how do my percebtages look

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by MasterBeernutsover 6 years agoMixologist

>INW-Black Cherry (1-32%)

This might need looking at

>CAP-Sweet Lychee-(3% Starting Point)

CAP Sweet Lychee is quite domineering. I use it in some tropical mixes between 0.25-0.75% usually. Over 1% will usually start to take over a recipe, or at least be very present.

>TPA-Coconut Candy-(5-10%)

TFA Coconut Candy is normally used around 1-2%. A lot of people get a strong sunscreen vibe from this flavour, worth bearing in mind.

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by MasterBeernutsover 6 years agoMixologist

>CAP-Sweet Lychee-(0.25-0.75% do not go over 1% )

[after your edit due to my comment]

Sorry I should have been more specific. Yes, you can definitely go over 1% with CAP Sweet Lychee, and in fact the average for this flavour on ATF is 3.29%. I mostly use it as a background flavour hence the lower percentages. For a Lychee single flavour this is often used @ 3-5%. I get off notes coming through over 1% but that's just my personal taste.

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by MakeAmericaVapeover 6 years ago

cool. i haven’t delved into fruits too much but i do have several of those flavors. i hope you get some useful comments so that this post can be something i can refer to in the future. thanks!

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

thanks man yea i just did it for myself but i thought it would be helpful

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by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

INW Black Cherry - 0%
TFA Honeysuckle - 1-2%
TFA Rose Candy - can be used higher, but needs at least a week steep.

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by Demizmeuover 6 years ago

I honestly don't know about TPA Honeysuckle at 10-15%. I don't think I've ever used it over 3%. Solid list though. Thank you for sharing.

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

updated thank you so much i hope it was of help i really made it formyself but i thought it would be helpful for others

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 6 years agoThe Kingmaker

You can use TFA Dragonfruit as a main flavor and go much higher with it, Sucker Punch clone/remix style. Just ask /u/Apexified, he wears it as a flair.

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

And i didnt do much i just put the info together from the resources on this sub and all the flavors

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

Noted will update

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

Meant to put a 3 for inw and okay thank you most of this info i got from the searchbar

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

Updated thank you so much

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by ben_gamingover 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Nice list!

I usually just look up the flavor details on ATF and check the average single flavor %, but this is very useful.

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by ninedimensionsover 6 years ago

I thought Cap Sweet lychee was much higher than that. Like I've been told to push to 10% for dominant flavor territory and I also thought you can push sweet Guava to 7-8% without it tasting off.

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

Im doing testers for these two next week will update it

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by lindquistwhoover 6 years ago

Would be useful with a wiki page with this info

1 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

theflavorwiki had a bunch of this... but not enough activity

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Impressive. I've been mixing for a year now and you're already ahead of me

1 points
 
by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

im not trying to be ahead just doing what works for me and seeing if anyone has any ideas on how to make it better

1 points
 
by CloudsOverOrionover 6 years ago

IIRC someone here told me LA teaberry is bad to vape..... Not 100% sure. Might want to research that. I was suggested wintergreen as a replacement.

1 points
 
by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

i didntknow what tea berry was so i through a small bottle in my cart but thatbks for the warning

1 points
 
by Brew_Ninjaover 6 years ago

Thanks so much!! I really appreciate you sharing. It’s awesome!!

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

Just use the search bar thats the best resource

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by Zakraidarksorrowover 6 years agoFrugivore

I'm a little concerned at the TPA Honeysuckle "cracks tanks"... what do you mean by that? I'm guessing it doesn't make your tank glass crack

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by Vishousnessover 6 years ago

I didnt pull that info out of thin air my friend i was compiling this list when i started diy so i could have some idea of where to start with sfts and % for each i got this info from here https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/1ivjog/mega_tfa_tpa_recipe_thread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app if you think the note for that flavor is wrong please do tell me why so i can learn i havent had a chance to sft my florals yet thats next week

1 points
 
by Zakraidarksorrowover 6 years agoFrugivore

Sounds good, I just didn't understand by what you mean when you say "Cracks tanks"

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by ilostmyredditover 6 years ago

this is really useful for me. I like to mix batches of flavors i know I like in 120ml so I have to stick it out and sometimes it just sucks. I tried 8% TFA watermelon 4% TFA watermelon candy and 1% INW cactus juice and this list would have helped me with that one. the cactus was way too pronounced

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by HettDizzle4206over 6 years ago

Why not just mix 10ml batches to see if the recipe is good, then mix in bigger batches?

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by ilostmyredditover 6 years ago

It's a pain and bottles ain't cheep

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by eyemakepizzaover 6 years agoPepperoni Phoenix

You can get 50 15ml bottles for $9.99 on amazon.

1 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

The cactus would actually be the best part of that recipe...

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