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Those who use sweetener, what sweetener and percentages are you using?
submitted over 6 years ago by PM_ME_YER_RS_ACCOUNT

I'm mostly curious about what the percentages are being used in the typical premium juice, the ones everyone loves for whatever reason.

Also, what's your favorite sweetener to use?

I stopped by a vape shop my buddy works at and asked him to let me try some of his personal favorites, and he absolutely LOVES the overly sweet stuff, as does everyone else around here.

I'm looking to bring some sweetness to my fruit flavors, but I don't want to overdo it. I know it's mostly trial and error to find your personal taste for it, I'm just wondering what you're doing.

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9 points
 
by St1llFrankover 6 years ago

.25%-.5% Cap Super Sweet is as high as I go most times. Even if the recipe calls for more. Shits rough on coils and super potent. I also use FW every once in a while.

6 points
 
by isuamadogover 6 years ago

fotw sweetener

faq additives

5 points
 
by UndeadCircusover 6 years ago

My question is...what does CAP Super Sweet (or any other “sweetened enhancer”) offer that regular ol’ sucralose doesn’t?

3 points
 
by coop34over 6 years ago

Most are sucralose. TFA 5% dilution (and 5% maltol). FW 10% dilution. Cap SS 20% dilution.

2 points
 
by UndeadCircusover 6 years ago

I kinda figured. I use sucralose as a sweetener to stay away from sugar, so looks like I can just avoid those other products and use my own liquid sucralose instead.

3 points
 
by coop34over 6 years ago

Ingredients. Filter Water, Sucralose, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Succinic Acid, and Citric Acid.

Mostly water? Just go easy with it. Too much will cause some popping and will really thin your mix. And I really don't know enough about the other things. $3 for a bottle of SS is looking pretty good to me...

Edit: SS does have a couple of the same additives as liquid sucralose. The main thing is the carrier. I personally would rather have PG over water.

5 points
 
by coop34over 6 years ago

As people have said, Cap SS is the most concentrated (20% dilution). When I do use it, I measure by drops. 3 drops in a 30ml mix equals .25%. This is enough for me to notice and enjoy. 6 drops I consider over-sweetened. YMMV

Does this help?

3 points
 
by Jeppelyover 6 years ago

Capella Super Sweet. Ive tried TPAs sweetener but it only muted my flavours. Super Sweet like 0.2-0.5% its strong stuff.

8 points
 
by banglaydoucheover 6 years ago

I started diy a couple of months back with idi0t's sugar cookie recipe. Thought i wanted it sweeter, so made a 60ml batch with 8% super sweet. I have learnt to restrain myself since then.

9 points
 
by St1llFrankover 6 years ago

> 8% super sweet.

Holy shit lol.

6 points
 
by ID10-Tover 6 years agoThe Kingmaker

Holy shit, 8% CAP Super Sweet.

pReMiUm!

4 points
 
by Jeppelyover 6 years ago

I really hope you meant 0.8%... 😆

2 points
 
by noahdblevinsover 6 years ago~D.I.Y. Samurai~

I grabbed the wrong bottle of sweetener once. I added 1% super sweet instead of 1% TFA sweetener.

Being 4x sweeter than expected rocked my palette. I can only imagine your 8% experience.

2 points
 
by mauricejdover 6 years ago

Im really curious too... I just started mixing and i use TFA Meringue or TFA Toasted marshmallow (couldnt find normal marshmallow at the time i bought this). And depending on the recipe i alternate between these two at percentages between 0.5 to 2.5 to add sweetness but it also brings its own "spice" to the mix. So i am also looking for a more simple sweet flavour i could add to my recipes for that extra... I heard a lot about sucralose but i don't get if you have to buy a powdered form or if there is a special flavour from like TFA that contains sucralose only. I also heard about ethyl maltol but i try to steer clear because i heard it mutes flavours if you aren't really careful.

2 points
 
by McTouchButtover 6 years ago

.25 to .5 % Cap super sweet

2 points
 
by TDVapesover 6 years ago

Liquid Stevia, .5% to 1% Better Stevia is what I have used for years. They just changed the line up and now you can get flavored, and most now use VG in them.

1 points
 
by aurix_over 6 years ago

Interesting. I've been looking for sucralose alternative's. Where do you source your Stevia from?

2 points
 
by TDVapesover 6 years ago

https://www.nowfoods.com/natural-foods/by-brand/betterstevia/liquids

Organic and Original use de-ionized water and cane alcohol, Glycerite uses VG and de-ionized water

2 points
 
by theBigGloomover 6 years ago

I use between 0.25 - 0.50% of Cap SS depending on the recipe. I recently got FLV Sweetness which seems to be easier on my coils, but definitely not as strong. Not sure how much I will be using it yet

2 points
 
by jmferrisover 6 years ago

I've been on a FLV Sweetness kick. It is Stevia-based, and I find it has less of an aftertaste than most sweeteners. Have been using it mostly between 0.5% and 1.5%, depending on what I am mixing. Am probably going to take a couple of other people's recipes that I've enjoyed and see how I can replace the SS that most of them use with Sweetness to see what the actual ratio would be for substitution. It is definitely less potent than SS, which (as Martha Stewart would say), is a good thing.

1 points
 
by jmferrisover 6 years ago

Just to follow-up to myself, I've been doing some experimentation. FLV Sweetness is now something that I will only be using situationally, if at all, because I am finding it to really distort at anything above .5%. I have to push higher percentages to get the sweetness to where I would want it, but then I get insane muting. Did two side-by-sides of two recent recipes that I am working on, both had been at .75% with FLV Sweetness and both were very flavorless (and neither should have been). Mixed both again with Cap SS at .25% and the were both sweeter and more flavorful. Both recipes also have fruit flavors in them, so I am not sure if that is the common thread.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 6 years agoThe Kingmaker

2% CAP Super Sweet is pretty normal for "typical premium juice," to answer that question.

Personally, I once tried a recipe with 1% CAP Super Sweet in there that somehow worked for me, in part because it was a candy recipe. Many other times, I've found 0.5% to be too much. Depends on the recipe.

As for what is my favorite, I tend to use FW Sweetener in the 0.5 to 0.75% range.

2 points
 
by FlyDungasover 6 years ago

I use 0.5% FW

2 points
 
by HitShaneover 6 years ago

Sweeteners burn. My coils last for several months. I don't use sweeteners.

It seems to be a lot of concentrates already have small amounts of sweetener in them so I definitely don't add any more.

2 points
 
by ReaperNullover 6 years ago

I only use Super Sweet and I once went to 2%, haven't gone above one since. I rarely use it, I think I've been on the same bottle for over a year.

2 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

I have two sweeteners that I rarely use... Sugar Daddy ( I got from thebrokevaper.ca) is a blend of sucralose, EM, and a couple others... And from savapeur i ordered "hippie sugar" (its a stevia solution).

1 points
 
by pevinsghostover 6 years ago

/u/oswaggy ... Any chance you'll chime in?

1 points
 
by banglaydoucheover 6 years ago

You live and learn

1 points
 
by banglaydoucheover 6 years ago

Didn't turn out as bad as it sounds though. You get kind of a metallic sugary taste. I've had store bought juices that were far worse.

1 points
 
by pepsiman40over 6 years ago

I usually use super sweet but I was wondering about trying monk fruit has anybody tried monk fruit and if so is it a sweet as super sweet

2 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

> has anybody tried monk fruit

Someone did

1 points
 
by Fi11yover 6 years ago

0.1 % ss for a light sweetness 0.2% if i want it candy flavoured. Any more and i feel it's sweetness for the sake of sweetness and taking away from the core flavours

1 points
 
by OneThousandNopesover 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I find Cap Super Sweet more or less unvapable but I like a little bit of Flavorah Sweetness. Down low at about 0.25% it's nice and gentle and doesn't feel anywhere near as wrong on the tongue as SS.

1 points
 
by J05H3Yover 6 years ago

Tfa sweetener 3%

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Cap Super Sweet .25% - .75%

1 points
 
by morefiendover 6 years ago

If I use sweetener, it's CAP Super Sweet, usually no higher than 0.5%.

1 points
 
by N3moHoesover 6 years ago

Sugar Daddy @ 1% in pretty much everything I make and tweak it from there.

1 points
 
by Hlee89over 6 years ago

thank you so much for asking this as I've been curious about this as well. I just started making my own juice and coming from years of "premium" juices, I feel like I need some sweetener to bridge the gap. I do enjoy the juices without sweetener, but I feel there's just something missing.

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