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Is there a concentrate that makes straight fruit blend less... spicy? chemically? Whenever i taste 90 percent of straight fruit vapes they're never smooth and juicy flavour like anything with a cream or dessert concentrate in it?
submitted over 6 years ago by Space_Pegasus

Ever since i started mixing I kind of avoiding doing straight fruit flavours because i always felt like ended up with a chemical, alcohol or burning taste to them. This goes the same for store bought juice.

I've some people mention cucumber or kaktus or apricot.

Is there any concentrate that is like "add this to your fruit recipe and it with smooth it out"?

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by tet5uoover 6 years ago

Use less flavoring is the main thing. If you taste chemicals you have too much in there.

Artificial flavors are a fine-line between delicious and chemical-warfare.

Some flavors just taste like chemicals to me, too. They might just be bad flavors for vaping.

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by RockyHarlowover 6 years ago

> Artificial flavors are a fine-line between delicious and chemical-warfare.

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^(8% TPA HONEY INTENSIFIES)

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by DarkJester89over 6 years agoThe Clone-y Professor

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by Binsky89over 6 years ago

I know some people taste only chemicals with some strawberry flavors while others just taste strawberry.

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by PiantGenisover 6 years ago

Tfa marshmallow helps a bit for me, Some flavors are just very potent. I typically mix 6-9% total flavor these days and have no issue.

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by RockyHarlowover 6 years ago

To repeat what I said below;

>Total flavoring percentage has little to do with the result of a mix. Sure 5% TPA Strawberry would be fine, but 5% INW Peach is candle wax. It matters much more on a per concentrate basis. That's why single flavor testing is so important if you intend to develop your own mixes.

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TPA Marshmallow does tend to mellow things, as does anything containing high levels of EM. It's easy to overdo and mute a mix though, so I tend to tread cautiously with anything that I know contains it. 0.5% and work up from there.

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by Space_Pegasusover 6 years ago

is that to say tpa marshmallow contains high levels of EM?

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by ShoryukenPizzaover 6 years ago

Good suggestion here. I used to mix high and wasn't too pleased, but I started mixing >10% for fruits and it's a wild ride on the flavor train.

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by PiantGenisover 6 years ago

Less is more! My highest % adv mix is 4% Fw grape, 3.5 bubble gum,. 05 Fw blue ice, 1% cotton candy, and a touch of menthol. So good, plenty of flavor even in a pod.

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by ShoryukenPizzaover 6 years ago

AYYY saving this for a good day

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by Helenarthover 6 years ago

Just wanted to say that sounds delicious. Like a grape and bubblegum slushie.

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by coffezillaover 6 years ago

I also rarely get satisfied with fruit flavours. It is just too... literal fruit? Where I mostly just crave juice. Molinberry pink lady is my go to single flavour tropical juice if you are into that. No bakery in it though.

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by Binsky89over 6 years ago

It might just be the flavors you're using or the concentration. I mix straight fruit blends almost exclusively, and I've never had this happen.

I'd recommend that you drop your total flavor concentration to 5% and go up 1% until the recipe tastes right, or starts tasting like chemicals. I rarely mix any of my personal juice at over 10%, but usually keep it around 5-6%. I havent had commercial juice in years and frequently vape unflavored though.

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by RockyHarlowover 6 years ago

Total flavoring percentage has little to do with the result of a mix. Sure 5% TPA Strawberry would be fine, but 5% INW Peach is candle wax. It matters much more on a per concentrate basis. That's why single flavor testing is so important if you intend to develop your own mixes.

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by SaintBurtover 6 years ago

TFA Smooth sounds like it might be what you're looking for. I don't have any experience with it though. From what I've read, it's better to fix whatever needs to be smoothed out in your mix than use TFA Smooth.

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by Lulzorrover 6 years ago

you've gotta be careful with triacetin. It will mute the ever loving fuck out of everything in the mix. If you ever want your juice to have less flavor than lacroix, that'll be a big help.

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by kindgroundover 6 years ago

Not to mention make it feel like a mouthful of vegetable oil.

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by mixmintressover 6 years ago

Maybe that's what I was tasting with INW Purple Rain. I kept saying it tasted like expensive baby oil.

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by Southern_Strangerover 6 years ago

Too strong as everyone is saying is a definite option.

Spicy could be from poor quality nicotine. Chemically could partially be that you need to steep longer (sometimes it takes a month to get good flavour). You could also be sensitive to PG, I find it chemical tasting and nasty above 10%.

Certain flavours you may need to try more brands, sometimes one brand is nasty and another is good in the same flavour. This may be subjective and your taste may not agree with what you read in reviews or hear from others.

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by ilostmyredditover 6 years ago

Inw cactus juice helps smooth out my blends

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by dark_labover 6 years ago

Post your recipe so we can see if there are any improvements that can be made. How long are you letting it steep for? There are many factors involved in making quality juice.

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by Kewkewmoreover 6 years agojust add sucralose

Ws23

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by kuanicaover 6 years ago

Patience as far as steep time... 10-12 % max flavorings.

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by Squigglificatedover 6 years ago

I mostly vape fruits. A day or two of steeping often smooths out a lot of initial chemical flavors.

Besides that the most common reason is using way too much flavor. There’s this weird thing where something can taste really great at the right percentage, then the flavor becomes more and more muted the more you add, and when going past that the flavor becomes stronger again, but with nasty chemical off flavors.

It’s really counter intuitive and hard to believe until you experience it for yourself.

And strengths vary wildly. I like FLV Alpine Strawberry best at less than 1 drop to 10ml, or 0.15-0.2%. While with CAP Sweet Guava I need 6-8% to get the same level of flavor. That makes one 40x stronger than the other.

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by isuamadogover 6 years ago

I didn’t like straight fruits much either until I got better flavors. Watch noted episodes/search fotw for fruit flavors you are interested in and then try what’s recommended. At the recommended percent. And a little coolant goes a long way.

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