I know this question might have been over asked here before, but in searching through posts I seem to come up short on a solid answer so I figured Id ask away. Im mixing up some recipes to use with my Orion at 35mg and I was wondering if theres a rule of thumb for bumping up flavor percentages when mixing with such high nic. I tried doing 1% up on each flavor for a Zeppola recipe I found on ATF and it was ok, but nothing truly pronounced. Also, instead of maybe upping the %, would adding some sweetener instead be a good option to use to sort of balance the mix without going extra high on the flavors? I just find it a bit hard to figure out what to do and theres not much info regarding pods, so any help on this would be great and highly appreciated! thanks!
It's got nothing to do with high nicotine amounts. It has to do with the low powered pod devices. They are actually a step back in time flavor wise. Doubling each flavor is a step in the right direction. But the problem is that complex recipes don't really come through in pods. It's why you can't taste the zeppola. You gotta stick to simple recipes.
Well the zeppola recipe has only 5 flavors total, which is kind of confusing to me because ive had some salt nics from vendors (such as mello vapors) of recipes which i know require a lot of flavors and they taste great in salt form and they dont look super dark in terms of juice color. But yeah, it is a step back so maybe doubling would enhance it more. I just get weary mixing at 25% plus with flavors because I dont want my pods to gunk up super quick too.
Amount of flavors doesn't matter. It's the type of flavors. Dark also has nothing to do with anything. More flavoring won't gunk coils. That's due to incorrect VG/PG ratios causing dry hits in pods, and sweetener
Really? Huh see I always associated darker liquids wirh gunking, as that tends to happen in my regular juices which i have not personally mixed. Ill have to test that with my non sweetener freebases mixes for myself, but if thats the case then upping the percentages then seems to be the route i need to take. I really appreciate the advice here and help too (i get really anxious over mixing and have loads of ocd, but this was really relieving to hear)
Mixing for pod systems is tricky. You have to keep things simple and choose your flavors carefully. You need to pick flavors that definitely work well together and that are relatively potent. Subtlety doesn't work here. You also need to choose flavors that don't get weird/off when you push them to their limits. It's not easy to make a great pod recipe.
Having said all that, I think zeppola is probably too subtle to work well in a pod and it's going to get weird when you push it higher. You may be better off replacing it with something bolder like INW Biscuit or something that doesn't get too weird when pushed high like Cap Sugar Cookie.
I have 2 or 3 recipes specifically developed for pods on ATF. Just do a recipe search for "pod" or "nic salts" and you should find them. I haven't done any bakeries yet though because I feel like it will be a huge challenge on a pod device.
BTW: Almost all pod recipes will benefit from a small amount of sweetener to make them "pop".
What pg/vg are you mixing to? I've been able to keep my recipes almost the same by going higher pg. I'm using the 0.25 pod with 30mg 50/50, pods are lasting a while too.
Im doing 50/50 currently at 30mg as well, but its more that i cant seem to find a flavor for my pods that i can taste. Im also using the newer .50 pods with the knurling on top with some salts from Mello and Apothecary (so sad to see him exiting the community) which seem to last me at least a week or so on a single pod which is good IMO. However, if i use salts from Yogi (another one i enjoy) they burn my pods super quick. So moreso im just looking for a good juice recipe seeing as im new to mixing and still learning the ropes in making my own mixes
Have you tried the 0.25 pods? Made a huge difference for me flavor and vapor production wise. Also I stick to the stronger flavors, things you can smell from 6-10“ away and the mfg recommend 1-3%.My total flavor rarely Exceeds 7%.
What flavors would fit that description? I have a ton from Capella, TFA, and FA but little of other brands, but ill be placing an order later today for some to fit a recipe so i could pick some of the ones you speak of up. And as for the .25, i wasnt a huge fan of them and preferred the .50 but i might try them out again to see since ive seen a lot of people say the same as you in it being better. I just might not have had a good setting on it when i used mine