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Guidance needed: I've been mixing for over a year and my flavors are all still muted. I'm about to give up...
submitted over 6 years ago by knobtown1

Like the title says, mixed for over a year and my flavors are extremely muted. I use nude nicotine nic, mostly hangsen flavors and generic pg vg. My favorite flavors are ry4. I'll mix 10% ry4 5% caramel with 6mg nic. 50/50 pg vg. Shake it very well. Let it steep for a month with shaking every week. Go and taste it and barely any flavor. Try my buddies store bought juice and it has an explosion of flavor. Not sure if it helps but I MTL, Nautilus 2 with Tesla wye 85 set up. Wattage around 20 on. 7ohm atomizer.

What am I missing? What could I be doing wrong? Am I missing a key ingredient or step?

Thanks in advance..

Edit: Thank you all very much for the advice. I am going to go on a shopping spree to get the suggested tanks and flavorings of recipes. I really needed this and it gave me a spark to keep trying. Thanks again.

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13 points
 
by bigtidderover 6 years ago

Hangsen flavors are pretty weak in general. You're not going to get a huge amount of flavor from a Nautilus 2 - try a rebuildable, something like the vapefly galaxies. If you like RY4's, try this recipe, it has tons of flavor.

6 points
 
by drhappycatover 6 years ago

You also don't have to jump to building your own coils right away. The MTL tank Phil and his greek buddy made with Innokin has been well-received.

3 points
 
by MasterBeernutsover 6 years agoMixologist

Or if you (OP) don't want to rebuild, try a Zenith tank (the Kroma-a kit is good). Use the 0.8 coils. That will net you more flavour than the Nauti2. Don't forget mate - store bought juice has LOTS of added sweetener. To avoid the possibility of flavour fatigue, try vaping flavourless for a week.

2 points
 
by Whooptidoohover 6 years ago

Yeah, The Nautilus 2 barely has any flavor compared with any other rta or rda. Used my Nautilus for maybe a month before I went with rebuildables.

1 points
 
by padishar123over 6 years ago

pistachio ry4

1 points
 
by raviaover 6 years ago

For flavor, try the Profile tank, all other things being whatever they are.

5 points
 
by padishar123over 6 years ago

If you really want to taste flavor switch to an rda. Mtl is the worst way to get flavor. Stick to American or European flavors.

3 points
 
by iamthecukemanover 6 years ago

Im thinking its a combo of the aromas you use, your tank situation, and the very high resistance/low output combo.

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This is my all day vape/go to-recipe for RY4, i usually like to add minute amounts of other good stuff (sometimes CAP sugar cookie, INW Biscuit, TPA Hazelnut etc.) to make a even broader flavour total;

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1036109/Candybeca

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(Shout out to Stafylidis Vladimiros who made the original recipe, he is awesome)

3 points
 
by andrewjackson1828over 6 years ago

You should try Goofys juice from that site. It adds hazelnut, peanut butter and cheesecake crust. Sounds right up your alley.

1 points
 
by ben_gamingover 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Seconded. This is my ry4 ADV, prefer it to candybaca.

1 points
 
by iamthecukemanover 6 years ago

I used to absolutely love Goofys juice! Its basically the juice recipe that made me get into DIY. But nowadays i think its kind of overrated, the steep time is way to long for me to be worth it and the flavor combo of peanut butter/A.P is tiresome.

3 points
 
by Nili0420over 6 years ago

Add .5 of super sweet to your juices, it makes a huge difference.

1 points
 
by Randolphswover 6 years ago

Why not just increase your percentages if you need a tank recommend,I’m a fan of the Joytech Cubis Pro 4ml, also I just got a Smok Nord (cheap $27) the Nord has more flavor and is pretty discrete, it’s my only mod with a built in battery and it’s great

2 points
 
by St1llFrankover 6 years ago

> Nord has more flavor and is pretty discrete, it’s my only mod with a built in battery and it’s great

Nord is a great pod device. The mesh coils have really decent flavor compared to the other pods I've tried. The 1.4Ω coils are alright too. My first one burnt out in less than 30ml. The mesh coils seem to last longer and taste better IMO.

1 points
 
by Randolphswover 6 years ago

Currently on my first 1.4 coil, today will be a week. I’m really impressed, I’ve filled it at least 6 times so far.

1 points
 
by Purpletechover 6 years ago

Just remember, smok quality control is great on their first initial batches of product and then goes downhill fast.

I'd expect your next pack of coils to be less than stellar.

1 points
 
by CrazyNateyover 6 years ago

Most premium juices you buy are loaded with sweetener. That's why you get that sugary taste on your tongue and lips. Try adding some sweetener to your recipes. I've heard good things about Capella's super sweet. I just use sucralose from flavor west and it works too. You don't need a lot, a little goes along way with the stuff. It's best around 0.50 - 0.75%

1 points
 
by Low_Ohmsover 6 years ago

My thoughts would be to check some online recipes and don't over flavor. If you add too much flavor that in itself will mute the taste. A little goes a long way. Also keep it simple at first and never give up! I think that watching some how to videos would benefit.

1 points
 
by [deleted]over 6 years ago

I’d try HS RY4 6-7% + HS Caramel 1-2%.

1 points
 
by Crow198322over 6 years ago

Check out Diyordie on youtube. All they do is diy e liquid making with a lot of tips.

1 points
 
by Phatpharm269over 6 years ago

OBS Engine II is a badass flavor tank.

Play with the PG %

Can always play around with a 3rd flavor to boost the mix. Ex: Pistachio

Airflow & wattage play a huge role too.

Some flavors are just crazy subtle tho ><

0 points
 
by Lynda73over 6 years ago

I like the TFA double ry4. Ry4 is subtle to begin with. I'd also add a drop of EM per 10ml for body, and I always added TFA tobacco wizard?? to my tobaccos. That might not be the right name, but it was something wizard and not the bitter one.

1 points
 
by MiLlIoNs81over 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Vape Wizard?

1 points
 
by Lynda73over 6 years ago

That sounds right. Is it a slightly tan liquid?

0 points
 
by Roc77over 6 years ago

Layer your flavours to accentuate their profile. Find a few more caramels and perhaps another RY4 to add complexity and nuance.

-4 points
 
by L_darksideover 6 years ago

Same here, i kind of gave up. I wish i would find at least ONE recipe with the same flavor as premium e-liquids!

Everyone gives suggestions, and there are thousands of recipes online with high rating... but when you try them, same result: smells great but the flavor is muted.

>!Then i realized most of people doesn't even notice the difference or what i'm talking about, that's why they can't help, and/or give crappy advices.!<

8 points
 
by MasterBeernutsover 6 years agoMixologist

I honestly don't get this. I vaped store bought shit for ages and was never happy. Anything and everything i mix now is far better for my tastes. I was not a fan of store bought juices. Do you use an RDA? Do you add any citrus to your recipes? Do you have a recipe you're not happy with, but it's almost quite there? We could have a look at it?

2 points
 
by n0tveganover 6 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Same here, but there are people who just can’t vape stuff without sweetener. My brother is one of them, give him grack juice and he will run away as fast as he can until you add 1% of SuperSweet.

1 points
 
by damndaewooover 6 years ago

Grack juice is killer. I need to order more grape so I can make it again

1 points
 
by ShoryukenPizzaover 6 years ago

Yeah like just scroll around the subreddit a bit and finding anything a master diy mixer makes will change all that shit

1 points
 
by L_darksideover 6 years ago

Would you be so kind to point me to one of these recipes? Thank you 💖

1 points
 
by L_darksideover 6 years ago

I tried both with RDA (Lush Plus and Bonza), a SMOK TFV8, and also a MERLIN MTL: same result.

...So that cannot be the problem.

I started trying to replicate Mr.Meringue, following all the existing recipes online, i managed to get the exact same scent, but the flavor was always muted. All Chalk's dust and other premium e-liquids have that pastry taste in common, i have no idea what it is.

Then after following thousands of advices like "try INW Bisquit" (as you can see i have asked multiple times in different places) ...i pretty much gave up.

3 points
 
by MasterBeernutsover 6 years agoMixologist

If you don't want to post a recipe then I'd recommend going to AllTheFlavors and searching for ID10-T's recipes. All of his recipes are great and you can't go wrong. Vape them on your Bonza RDA (not the terrible SMOK, it's probably the problem).

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