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Weekly Questions Thread - Week of February 04, 2019
submitted over 6 years ago by ApexifiedSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

Welcome, Everyone.

This is your thread to chat about anything remotely DIY-related that might not fit into one or our other Weekly/Monthly threads or that you’re just not comfortable posting to the front page. If you’re a New Mixer check out the DIY Beginners Guide and the links below then feel free to ask about anything you’re still not clear on.

 

Current Weekly/Monthly threads (Archive of all weekly threads):

  • Weekly ‘Suggest a Recipe for my Flavors’ Thread - You picked a bunch of flavors that either sounded good or were in recipes that looked good but now you want more ideas for what to do with them? Ask here and get suggestions.

  • Weekly ‘What are you Vaping?’ Thread - Talk about the latest recipes you’ve mixed up whether they’re yours or someone else’s.

  • Flavor of The Week - Every week the community gathers to discuss one flavor category and share recipes, notes, ideas, advice, pairings and more. After that the Noted crew (/u/ID10-T, /u/mlNikon & /u/CheebaSteeba) try as many flavors in that category as they can and discuss their impressions, opinions and notes.

  • Throwback Thursday - The newest weekly thread/project to revamp and improve the resources in our sidebar with feedback from the community.

  • FAQ Friday - Where I (and a few other contributors) tackle one Frequently Asked Question as comprehensively as possible.

  • Monthly Recipe Thread - Share your recipes here with or without development notes.

  • Monthly Clone Request Thread - Want a recipe or idea for how to mix your favorite commercial juice? This is the place to ask. Check out FAQ Friday: Clone Requests for some ideas on how best to ask and get closer to accomplishing your remix.

  • Monthly Clone Challenge - A community driven effort to tackle one clone request at a time.

 

Highlights from last week:

  • /u/AlfredPudding has joined a short and somewhat illustrious list of Recipe of the Year winners. Not only did he acquire some fancy flair next to his name but /u/ID10-T took the opportunity to change his, as well; The Kingmaker is now responsible for nominating 3 of the 5 winners and is bursting with "dorky enthusiasm" over the accomplishment.

  • /u/matthewkocanda posted his 48th front page recipe and finally relented to my pestering by also posting (for posterity) to the Monthly Thread. Perhaps now I'll start pestering him about his post titles...

  • /u/ShittyStrawman updated us on their quest to clone Jam on Toast (original post) with some interesting and exciting developments.

  • /u/Arpeggiator8472 aka SixStrings952 shared her 22nd front page recipe, one that just happens to use a flavor I'm guessing most of us have yet to acquire. If you've got a minute, The Flog Vlog just recently did a mixer review on SixStrings952 that is certainly worth checking out.

  • Like a flavor reviewing machine /u/Leilani_H shared another 7 flavor reviews last week: DF Strawberry Cream, HC Condensed Milk, WF Vanilla Ice Cream & Bumbleberry, NicVape Old Fashioned Donut, VT Sweet Cream, and HL Matcha Cream, bringing her total flavor review count to 69. An impressive feat that is much appreciated!

  • /u/incircles36 shared their design for a 3D Printed DIY E-Liquid Flavor Organizer

  • And finally the newest reviewer on the block /u/demisone shared a couple flavor reviews, one new (TFA Banana Nut Bread) and one re-review (CAP Sweet Tangerine)

 

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by Rickster4321over 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Anyone tried INW Shortbread yet?

5 points
 
by vApe_Escapeover 6 years agoTobacconist

No but now I have another flavor I have to order. Great.

1 points
 
by CultureVioletover 6 years ago

Sitting in my cart, hoping to order by end of the week. Pretty excited honestly. We could use something like this from INW.

3 points
 
by Ceferinoooover 6 years ago

Do you think commercial brand Eliquid companies steal formulas off ECR and ATF, then rename/sell?

6 points
 
by Apexifiedover 6 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

Certainly

5 points
 
by mixmintressover 6 years ago

Hell yeah

2 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

s/think/know

3 points
 
by B-rad47over 6 years ago

I am newer to mixing so forgive me if this is a dumb question. I have two different sweeteners, TFA Sweetener & CAP Super Sweet. I have only used the TFA so far. So if I was using 5% of the TFA Sweetener in a recipe, what should I use percentage wise with the CAP super sweet? I know the super sweet is stronger but unsure how to substitute it in my current recipes.

2 points
 
by sadistic_tendenciesover 6 years ago

That's a lot of sweetener. What are the recipes?

1 points
 
by B-rad47over 6 years ago

Sorry just double checked and it's 2.5%, read the wrong line. It's a peach yogurt recipe I've been tinkering with.

2 points
 
by sadistic_tendenciesover 6 years ago

I would start low at no more than a .5%. Make small 10-15ml batches and work upwards in small increments till you get your desired level. I'm not really a fan of sweeteners but have occasionally used SS at .25%. Even that low for me is pretty potent.

2 points
 
by chronicfartover 6 years ago

I'm mixing ID10-T's (am I allowed to tag?) simple sugar cookie recipe - which I loved (https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/10644#simple_sugar_cookie_by_id10_t) but I'm out of CAP sugar cookie, and so are my vendors - not easy to find stuff (it's illegal to comercialize) in my country. Searching here and there, I've found people use to sub Sugar Cookie with INW biscuit, which I have. I don't own a lot of flavors, could this work? Any guess number change if I use biscuit instead?

And also, thanks ID10-T, I'm loving this so much haha. Next time I'll be mixing 1L, no joke.

2 points
 
by kindgroundover 6 years ago

Biscuit is a bit different and a whole lot more potent. Biscuit is more of a crunchy slightly buttery cookie. Sugar cookie is like a plain soft store bought sugar cookie. You might try Biscuit at about 1% but it's going to taste different for sure.

1 points
 
by chronicfartover 6 years ago

Thanks a lot for the input. Your description of the flavor lead me to believe it has potential to be good as well.

2 points
 
by Apexifiedover 6 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

To tag/page him you have to write /u/ID10-T

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 6 years agoThe Kingmaker

It won’t be the same but you might be able to mix something good enough with 2% Biscuit to get by for now. Don’t mix a liter of that though, it won’t be as good.

2 points
 
by chronicfartover 6 years ago

Oh, not gonna mix a liter with a substitute, it's just a fix for now, I'm seriously hooked. Thanks a bunch, I'll try that!

2 points
 
by chronicfartover 6 years ago

Update, it is pretty damn good with biscuit, there's a difference that I can't tell cause I'm a noob but I'm enjoying a lot. 2% biscuit I would say is spot on, and uses less flavoring which is a huge plus for me - flavorings are too expensive in here.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 6 years agoThe Kingmaker

Cool, that means if this question comes up again I can answer with a little more confidence

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Obscure most excellent floral flavor....go

2 points
 
by mixmintressover 6 years ago

The woodruffs! ((woodruff (though an herb) does have flowers, so I'm sneaking it in)). Inawera has one, and I believe a couple of other lines do too.

Woodruff will be so hot this year. I can feel it.

2 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

Stop giving away secrets.

(But yes, INW Dark Lager, some woodruff, a few other botainicals, some cooling, and maybe a touch of citrus. In development.)

2 points
 
by mixmintressover 6 years ago

Sounds heavenly. I might need Dark Lager. Oh dear, oh dear..

2 points
 
by Up2myheadover 6 years ago

That sounds pretty damn good to me.

When I see dark lager, all I think is dopplebock, specifically optimator.

1 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

Most obscure, or most excellent?

Most excellent would be INW (or maybe FLV) Elderflower. Then CAP Hibiscus or TFA Honeysuckle. Then TFA Cherry Blossom. Most obscure, tho? I think SolubArome Genepi.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Is Genepi good?

1 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

The drink or the flavoring?

1 points
 
by ButteringToastover 6 years ago

So I have about 100mls left of CAP Chocolate Glazed Donuts and CAP Glazed Donuts.

These two flavours have been pretty much unused since every DIY'er was posting constantly about BroNuts..

The flavours still smell good - But apart from making Bronuts; can anyone else recommend me a recipe with them in?

5 points
 
by OdieDoodahover 6 years agoThe Real MVP

For questions like this, you should consult ATF. Take a look at what a quickie search found . . .

1 points
 
by mixmintressover 6 years ago

Anyone who has used Inawera Mix Mint (my constant jam)--how would you clone it? My attempts at building it from the ground up kind of suck. We all know Inawera discontinues everything, and I don't want to have to build a Mix Mint Bunker and hoard.

1 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

If mix mint sells well (ie is used by a commercial juice maker) they're unlikely to discontinue it.

1 points
 
by mixmintressover 6 years ago

Hoping that's the case! It's been around for a good while, so.. still hoarding but no bunker.

1 points
 
by elephantstone_over 6 years ago

I'd like to ask about Sweeteners.

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A question for those with experience and know what they're doing as opposed to myself...

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What are the differences between TFA Sweetener and Capella Supersweet? What I mean specifically is, when I use Supersweet, it emulates that store bought juice...literally emulates it.

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When I use TFA Sweetener, the effect is not the same. The mix is no sweeter than without, nor does it emulate the store bought juice, it just 'brightens' the mix if that makes sense. Say we are mixing fruits and creams... the fruits will sparkle more, yet the mix doesn't feel sweet.

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How would one correctly use TFA sweetener and what is its purpose? When would we use it and how, as say opposed to supersweet.

3 points
 
by coop34over 6 years ago

Both are sucralose.

Main difference is the concentration. Tfa is 5%, while Cap is 20%. So using 1% of Cap is the same as 4% of Tfa.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

TFA Sweetener also contains EM

3 points
 
by coop34over 6 years ago

Yeah I know, I said the main difference.

Btw, are you sure it is ethyl maltol, or just maltol?

3 points
 
by OdieDoodahover 6 years agoThe Real MVP

You should take a look at this -> FOTW - Sweeteners

1 points
 
by Rickster4321over 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Yeah, if it's on par with their new cheesecake it'll be fucking lights out.

5 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

You need to use the Reply button to reply to someone

1 points
 
by NoSpeakCanadianoover 6 years ago

Has anyone come close to making something like the Naked 100 Sour Sweet? It's one of my favorites.

1 points
 
by gravyleg77over 6 years ago

I've been chasing naked Lava Flow and Green Blast for awhile, in my search Naked seems to use mostly CAP and on occasion FA. Hope this helps in your search

1 points
 
by eyemakepizzaover 6 years agoPepperoni Phoenix

One time, I left my house with zero juice...cuz I’m an idiot. Stopped at a shop and grabbed some Lava Flow.

I actually rather enjoyed it, was a tad too sweet for me but that’s an easy fix.

Anywho I’m pretty certain it’s Cap Golden Pineapple, Cap Sweet Strawberry and I think FA Coconut and obviously some sweetener.

1 points
 
by TheBorgerKingover 6 years ago

When was the last time you threw something together, no notes, no worrying about how it turns out?

5 points
 
by sadistic_tendenciesover 6 years ago

Every time I mix something.

1 points
 
by EverySirover 6 years ago

This made me lol.

2 points
 
by modivinover 6 years ago

I did it once, couple of weeks back. One time I didn't take notes. As you can certainly guess, it came out great.

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 6 years ago

Ha always does!

1 points
 
by kindgroundover 6 years ago

About once a week. About half of them are failures in my book. I rely heavily on research most of the time.

1 points
 
by isuamadogover 6 years ago

I do that a lot when single or double flavor mixing. I get focused on a single flavor and will have a few small testers on my desktop. I sort of like tryin to figure out which one is in which as an activity in flavor recognizing.

But I also do that all the time with fruits when I am familiar with the flavors. I usually have one 15ml bottle that I just keep remixing every few days with something else. Like an ever evolving fruit cocktail.

1 points
 
by EverySirover 6 years ago

How the hell do I input individual flavors on Alltheflavors? I imported my list from ELR and there were several errors that I want to manually add. Can I do that? :(

2 points
 
by ironfairyover 6 years ago

I think ATF uses a standardized list of flavors, meaning that they can only be manually added by the admin. Users just pick from this standardized list. If they're missing something I'm sure you can contact the admin to get them to add it.

This system prevents flavor duplicates and incorrect spelling etc that's everywhere on ELR.

1 points
 
by EverySirover 6 years ago

How do I pick the flavors that I want to add?

3 points
 
by ironfairyover 6 years ago

On the top of your screen under ATF you should see three options, flavors recipes and more. Click flavors and type in the flavor you're looking for in the search bar, it should pop up.

On the right hand side will be an empty checkbox, check it and it will add itself to your inventory.

2 points
 
by isuamadogover 6 years ago

What u/ironfairy said. I just load them up with every new order on atf. Takes two minutes and I check my inventory from the order to make sure it’s all there.

1 points
 
by pomongobazeover 6 years ago

Hello everyone!

I recently picked up several packs of twist cap bottles and im super happy with the bottles except for one thing. They are so hard I can't press them. I don't understand. Even when the cap is off and there is no pressure in the bottle they feel rock solid. I just tried to drip with one bottle and my hands hurt so much. I can barely type this post because of the pain in my hands.

So my question is, is there a way to make the bottles I bought softer? At least making it easier to drip with the bottles. I wouldn't mind it if there was some kind of pour or bigger drops coming out of the cap but when I twist it fully open and hold it upside down I get small drops and it takes time for the second drop to come.

I don't know what material the bottles are except for that they are plastic and that they are called Boston twist cap. When I google some images it looks like some of them. The ones I have is clear and most of the bottles on google looked kinda foggy.

Best regards!

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TL;DR - Is there anyway to soften up plastic bottles?

1 points
 
by sadistic_tendenciesover 6 years ago

No you need better bottles. There is a nice thorough post in the faq friday link above.

1 points
 
by pomongobazeover 6 years ago

Damn that sucks. Typically me that bought 50 bottles right away

1 points
 
by JooseMakerWannabeover 6 years ago

Ouch!

1 points
 
by pomongobazeover 6 years ago

The ones that I have is the ones that are called Bullet/Cosmo Round in the post. Sucks they was so bad

1 points
 
by sadistic_tendenciesover 6 years ago

I wouldn't say they are bad as they have a purpose. The material plus those tips aren't going to make dripping easy though. Simple solution is to just use those for mixing and grab a small quantity of nice squishy ldpe bottles. Then transfer to those for dripping and carrying around with you.

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Yeah, those bottles suck. They come with my PG from NicRiver and they work fine for that because PG is like water. I couldn't imagine putting juice in them tho, I'd get hand cramps for sure.

1 points
 
by Samatonover 6 years ago

Here's a question for you guys, how do you eliminate harshness from a mix? This problem has plagued me for a year. When I mix I make 60ml bottle I use 10ml of VG nic I usually use 6ml of flavour concentrate and then the rest VG. I have been adding menthol to combat harshness. I'm not a fan of complex recipies I prefer a singular fruit flavour.

Am I using too much concentrate? Is 10% too strong?

A recent experiment I have created was 10ml lemon and lime flavour concentrate, 10ml nic the rest VG. Nothing else. On exhale it leaves a nearly cough inducing slight tickle of harshness that I would like to find ways other than menthol of removing/reducing.

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

using freebase? Try nic salts

1 points
 
by Samatonover 6 years ago

I have tried nic salts and I also read that nic salts are unsuitable for sub ohm usage.

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

That is incorrect. You can use them in normal concentrations (low) just as you would freebase.

1 points
 
by Apexifiedover 6 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

Which flavors are you using and what is the concentration of your nic?

1 points
 
by Samatonover 6 years ago

I am using 18mg 100%vg shots from Vapable. 1 10ml shot into a 60ml solution dilutes it to 3mg. I am mostly using concentrates from Vapable, have some capella some from TPA.

1 points
 
by nakedzover 6 years ago

Has anyone used borosilicate glass beakers? My specific question is: How well does ejuice "slide" off of the glass when emptying the mix into a bottle? I hate when I have 2 or 3 ml still left sticking to a beaker after up-ending it for a few minutes.

2 points
 
by sadistic_tendenciesover 6 years ago

There's an easy solution to that. Mix by weight!

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

I would not be measuring in a beaker.

Syringes would be better.

Or skip screwing around with mixing by volume and get a scale.

1 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoI improved Grack and all I got was this lousy flair

I have. VG is notoriously bad for adhering to everything it touches. This is why I don't use such things for mixing. (Previous lab experience taught me the properties of VG.)

1 points
 
by gaslightredditorover 6 years ago

I'm thinking about starting to make my own juice and have a few questions.

  1. What supplies are recommended?
  2. What's the best one stop eShop to purchase everything I need to get started
  3. What would be an easy first flavor to mix?
  4. Any tip or suggestions for first time mixers?
1 points
 
by sadistic_tendenciesover 6 years ago

I would recommend reading the beginners guide linked in this post. It answers every one of your questions and then some.

1 points
 
by gaslightredditorover 6 years ago

Not sure how I missed that. Thanks

1 points
 
by regnisnjover 6 years ago

Anyone know of a good mountain dew recipe?

1 points
 
by Apexifiedover 6 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

Misty Mountain by /u/mlNikon

1 points
 
by mostsecretboyover 6 years ago

...Does anyone want 8 ounces of Flavor West Cloud 9? Got it as a sample in my NicRiver order. PM me if interested, I'm not gonna use it.

EDIT: Really hope this is allowed - will gladly remove it if not.

1 points
 
by mixmintressover 6 years ago

If it's not allowed here try https://www.reddit.com/r/Vapistan/ ; I just found that sub today and they allow giveaways (I've been looking for a place to do that). That flavor looks good! It has sugar in it though according to Bull City; I have a few flavor west flavors like that and I'm afraid to vape them... they end up usually flavoring my water.

I got a HUGE bottle of Horchata Smooth from them! I actually love that flavor... but it's so potent, I use tiny amounts. When I saw the huge bottle, I laughed--like "Whoa!"

1 points
 
by mostsecretboyover 6 years ago

Thanks a bunch! The sugar is why I won't use it - fine for some people, but not for me. I like the idea of flavoring water with them!

1 points
 
by mixmintressover 6 years ago

No problem! Yeah, they're good in water--& I've been dropping one or two drops of Rainbow Sherbet in a glass of water for months and I'm not making a dent in it. Very tasty!

1 points
 
by Apexifiedover 6 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

It's allowed

1 points
 
by Korlimannover 6 years ago

To my friends from most likely only germany: Do you know of any percentages for mixing Kiba? (For everyone else that's interested, Kiba is a drink, widely known in germany, which consists of Banana and Cherry juice (Banane and Kirsche in german words, therefore "Kiba"))
So yeah, I saw a lot of brands already made Kiba-e-Juice, but I'm not willing to pay up to 55€ for 100ml, and since I'm more into DIY anyway, I thought maybe someone already found out good mixing percentages.
Thanks a lot and have a great evening!

1 points
 
by kindgroundover 6 years ago

I don't have a recipe... But some of my favorite concentrates that fit the profile are:

  • Hangsens Banana
  • Wonder Flavours Banana Puree
  • Inawera Cherries
  • Molinberry Red Cherry
  • The Flavor Apprentice Cherry Extract
1 points
 
by rayukiover 6 years ago

Can anyone take a look at this recipe for me and see if there's something I might have messed up? http://tjek.nu/r/rkhc?token=a45514f774e450e It's my first time doing a Max vg mix, and it's just a one shot flavour. But I just tried some (it's only about 24hrs old) and it gave me a massive headspin after a few draws. I've never had problems before usually at 12mg nicotine but thought I'd lower it to cut down but have the feeling I've messed up or something cause I've never had this before. Any ideas? Can I just dilute it down with some more vg? I mix by weight and have good scales so measured exactly right as on the recipe. Could it be cause it's still not steeped enough and is a bit stronger?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

That's just a recipe and what the calculator gave you for values. We can't tell you what you did or wrong or even if you did anything wrong. If you had a "headspin" it's either related to your nicotine or you aren't really breathing in between hits. What scale do you have?

1 points
 
by rayukiover 6 years ago

Yeah it's just to show what I used I made the recipe on there, I'm using lb-501 scales. Just wanted to see if it's something anyone has experienced before as I'm used to this nicotine % but was my first time vaping this high vg so just trying to figure out if it can react differently to the nicotine or something.

I guess it could be the not breathing between hits as I did take a few long pulls fairly quickly one after the other on it testing wattage and such. I'm probably just being paranoid lol

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Did you shake your bottle?

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