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Amonia-ish taste from new bottle of nicotine?
submitted over 6 years ago by Cocky1976

Hey so I recently got some chemnovatic nicotine for the first time and mixed up a batch of unflavored 4mg. It has a very funky cat piss amonia type of taste. I've read that unflavored should be almost tasteless with a slightly sweet flavor. This is the same taste as I had with old WTA eliquid. The nicotine is completely clear so I don't think it's oxidized at all but I can't understand why it's got this nasty taste. Anyone else have a problem with chemnovatic?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Contact them.

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

I will, I just wanted to get some feedback from people that have used the brand before. I've never had it so I'm not sure if it's normal to be somewhat off tasting. Like I said it's almost totally clear so it's not oxidized, it just tastes like old oxidized WTA.

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by swagdaddy5151over 6 years ago

clenches butt knowing there’s a gallon of Chemnovatic waiting on my doorstep

Seriously tho contact them that does not sound familiar at all. Update us if you hear anything significant I’m interested to see if there’s any reasoning given.

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by imNAchogrlover 6 years agoKooky

I dont have experience w this nicotine but i think the tasteless but slightly sweet taste you refer to is how vg is described, I'm not sure I've ever heard that description for nicotine but i could be wrong. I think if you're not satisfied w it, and clearly you're not, tell NR and either have them send you a new one or refund you and I'm sure they will... They're good, but maybe not as good as offering to replace it but pretty sure if you ask them to they will...and i know its not an easy thing to do but call them and see so you dont get a bad taste in your mouth for them unless you've already decided to go a different route. Have you read reviews there to see if other ppl complained? What a pita! Uugh lol but this is still a great time to stock up on your nic before its too hot dont forget everyone...;) good luck! ( oh sry i forgot most freezing to death and I'm here loving life in an absolutely gorgeous week of 60 degree weather 😬)

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

Lol, I mean I've heard that unflavored eliquid has a naturally sweet taste due to the VG. Nicotine itself is definitely not sweet. Usually oxidized nic will have a pink tinge and a really peppery taste, this is not that. It's idk, it's not an easy to describe flavor like a chemically fishy type of thing going on. And your lucky with your perfect weather, I'm getting gloomy rainy drizzling crap here. At least it's not freezing although I do miss the snow sometimes.

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by teiloover 6 years ago

I envy you. It’s -26° F here.

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

Ouch, well be sure to stay inside then! We don't need to read about how vaping freezes your lungs cuz you decided to take a late night stroll lol. Seriously though I've live in frigid climates before, the coldest was -20 I believe. Try changing a starter in that shit. It's so cold ya gotta wash your hands twice whenever you take a piss, once before and then after lol.

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by 510Threadedover 6 years ago

Chemnovatic has always been perfectly clear and 0 taste for me. They are my goto for brands of nic

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

Well they are sending a replacement and having their "chemist check the batch". I'm genuinely curious as to what the issue is regardless of them sending a new bottle. Only thing I can think of is leftover solvents from the extraction process, or possibly contamination in the rebottling could be more likely as it would probably be a larger issue if it was a whole batch.

IDK, I've honestly never had a problem with them before or their old brand of nicotine though it would seem others have.

Hopefully the replacement bottle is as good as yours.

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by RockyHarlowover 6 years ago

Did you order from Nicotine River by chance? The only time I've gotten skunked nic was from them. I get Chemnovatic from VapersTek and haven't had an issue.

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

I've ordered from them since I started diy, never gotten bad nicotine. I really don't get what the issue could be though, like I said it's almost totally clear so I'd think that rules out oxidization, the bottle was brand new and just opened last night so it should be good. It's disappointing though as I emailed them and was told that they've not had any other complaints about it so if I have any other questions please feel free to contact them again. Like gee thanks for resolving this issue bud. I guess I'll have to try one of the other companies out there, I've heard great things about Carolina extracts and bcf.

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by sadistic_tendenciesover 6 years ago

BCF doesn't sell nicotine. Only other place I know of that sells Chemnovatic is Vapers Tek.

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

Yeah, that's why I said Carolina and bcf lol. I've never used chemnovatic so it's not a big deal if somewhere doesn't carry it.

1 points
 
by 510Threadedover 6 years ago

Heartland Vapes also has Chemnovatic

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by RockyHarlowover 6 years ago

I get PG/VG from Nic River, sometimes flavors if I need to hit free shipping. Bull City for the flavors as they tend to have equal or better prices, faster shipping, and a wider selection than almost anywhere else, I wish their VG and PG was more reasonable so I could use them for almost everything other than nic. I get Chemnovatic from Vaperstek and would recommend them.

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Also Happy Cake Day.

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

Thanks, I didn't know it was my cake day lol. So is chemnovatic usually good? I was honestly happy with nic rivers old brand. I've had some last at least 3 months and still be good to go. IDK, maybe it's a bad bottle or something. I contacted them and they said they haven't had any complaints. It's not peppery or off colored, it's just gross. Like I can't really describe it other than that it tastes just like the 36mg WTA I had from somewhere else. Only it's a measly 3mg mix, it shouldn't be this God awful.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

Please remove the link for Vaperstek. No links to places that sell nicotine products are allowed

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by Rickster4321over 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Guess this is one of those times I shouldn't bring up Occam's Razor.

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by Rickster4321over 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor Just the principle that the simplest answer is usually the correct one eg smells like cat piss, probably is cat piss. I would go with Vapers Tek as others have mentioned. I've never had issue with them. Then BCF for flavors. Nic River doesn't deserve your hard earned money man.

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

As in?

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by carvcikover 6 years ago

How long ago you got it shipped ? Mine shipped Friday and it has odd "chemical" taste to it on regular "mustard milk" recipe that I know is not supposed to taste like that. Made some pure vg and nic to try tomorrow and see how it is.

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

I received it from the Christmas sale I believe sometime last week. Contact them and let them know the batch number. It's possible that you got yours from the same lot as me. Was yours dark and oxidized or really clear?

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by carvcikover 6 years ago

It's clear

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by Timberwolf1983over 6 years ago

I have had this happen a couple times with nic river chemnovatic. I switched to Carolina xtracts and they are my end game for nic. So clean.

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

So you ever figure out what the issue was? I can't imagine it's from oxidization as I've had oxidized nic and it's peppery not funky. Or did you just move on to Carolina?

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by Timberwolf1983over 6 years ago

It was definitely oxidized but also tasted like it had spoiled or fermented or something. I really don’t know. This stuff smelled/tasted awful and ruined my mixes beyond what a slightly oxidized peppery nic would do. Out of the three bottles they sent there was one I could mix at 2% and barely notice it. Any higher and It was very apparent. I’m sure they get good nic but I’m not chancing it anymore. Even if I knew it was fresh I probably wouldn’t bother after mixing with Carolina. This stuff is amazing.

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by RockyHarlowover 6 years ago

The painfully obvious brand new account with one single comment shilling for a shitty company with absolute shit processing times and customer service. I smell bullshit.

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by ironfairyover 6 years ago

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by eyemakepizzaover 6 years agoPepperoni Phoenix

beware of the processing and shipping times.

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by Cocky1976over 6 years ago

Um, yeah. I've heard way to many horror stories over the last few years regarding their lengthy processing and shipping delays. There's too many other companies that have better custom service and shipping times for me to seriously consider ordering from nude.

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by ironfairyover 6 years ago

Good on you, that guy's shilling.

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