I was on youtube learning more about salts, and then I clicked on a NicRiver's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfnqAAGojdo - which basicaly the guy says that you should not use nicsalt for high temperature vaping - he says this on 2:09).
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And then, if you scroll down a bit, there's a guy asking if it was okay to vape a 8mg juice on a 90w device. NicRiver then replied: "Hello! Please do not vape the Salts at that high of a wattage for the safety of the consumer! The MG strength is completely okay however, the main issue with high wattage is the extreme heat that is sent to the coils at one moment. The intense heat created by high wattage will ultimately break the Nicotine Salt ingredients bonds and make them harmful to human life."
Didn't find anything concrete on the internet so far, searched this sub and nothing also.
Do any of you have any input on this? Is this a NicRiver salt's specific thing?
The part about nic salts is bullshit but there is mounting evidence that temperature plays a large role in the production of harmful chemicals. Of course you'd need a TC device to really determine this because just wattage doesn't really matter. Its all about temperature.
formaldehyde and Acetaldehyde (both carcinogens) spike up past safe levels starting around 470F-480F
Start about 6 minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiqh1r4tJeA
Turns out VG is worse than PG with regards to formaldehyde:Significant amounts of toxic carbonyl compounds can be created when common e-liquid solvents—i.e., PG, GL, or their mixture—are heated at high temperature, either intentionally by users to get more aerosol or accidently due to overheating. GL produced much more formaldehyde than PG under our testing conditions
Significant amounts of toxic carbonyl compounds can be created when common e-liquid solvents—i.e., PG, GL, or their mixture—are heated at high temperature, either intentionally by users to get more aerosol or accidently due to overheating. GL produced much more formaldehyde than PG under our testing conditions
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgFAs8BWTHI
Click the plus button to to see the collection of about 20 videos: http://nationalacademies.org/hmd/Activities/PublicHealth/HealthEffectsofElectronicNicotineDeliverySystems/2017-Feb-21/Videos/Welcome/1-Welcome-Video.aspx
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/blogs/mikepetro.122281/
Great info. Just to be clear: So to be on the safe side of things I should just run on TC mode and keep it under 240°C?
That's a person choice I vape 525F all day long knowing the results and that its "less safe" but that is the vape I need not to go back to smoking which would be worse. Objectively staying under that temp is safer though.
A ton of great info!! I have been wondering myself about salts. I have friends that have switched to low wattage salt devices because they like how smooth NicSalts are, but I have too much invested already and was wondering if I could substitute 100mg NicSalt for my current 100mg Nic in my 6mg mixtures and vape them the same at 55W in my current setup like nothing changed.
What a load of bullshit. The coils get just as fucking hot at lower wattages. Wattage != temperature.
This is very disingenuous. Yes, they'll get just as hot... If you run it for longer... With less airflow... Many factors go in to it, but wattage certainly plays a roll in how fast it gets to a certain temperature. Just as other factors can mitigate or exacerbate that.