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Let's make a catalogue of flavor tasting oddities!
submitted over 6 years ago by flavchallenged

I don't know if something like this already exists, search didn't come up with much. Let's make a list of common flavor tasting problems / oddities, and recommendations to alleviate them. These are mine:

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Strawberry non-tasters: Probably the most well known issue, many people have problem tasting strawberry flavorings. I would like to describe it for the nth time for the fortunate people who don't have this problem: I can taste real strawberries just fine, I can smell the flavoring in the bottle, but most strawberry flavorings feel like unflavored vg/pg when vaped in normal-people percentages. If I overflavor I do get some notes, but these are mostly what I think are supporting notes, because on their own they taste off. For example TFA Strawberry tastes like really bitter herbs, just a bitter sharp top note with no body.

Solutions: Tying to the point above, most strawberries seem to be top noteish with no body (or that's how I perceive them). Adding body helps, some creams, custards, bakeries and whatnot. The unbearable TFA Strawberry above does not cause as bad of a taste when used in botboys famous recipe for example, I can even taste something resembling strawberry. And it definitely tastes different from how VBIC would taste standalone, so strawberry definitely imparts something even if it can not be tasted on its own (VBIC also tastes peppery to me, will get to that) Also sweetener helps.

Here are the best strawberry flavorings I have found that work for me. Note that "work for me" means I can taste something faint that resembles strawberry, rather than OMG it's full on strawberry.

FA Strawberry (Regular): Naturalish strawberry (smell in the bottle) that has less of the bitter hay notes. I can faintly taste this on a lucky day. Their new juicy strawberry is supposedly better for non-tasters, but it was not the case for me.

INW Shisha Strawberry: This has what seems to be a syrupy body, as a result it's faintly tasteable. Probably the best of the bunch.

CAP Sweet Strawberry: I can overflavor this without much off notes to the point I can taste some nondescript red/pink sweetness and with a little imagination it can feel like strawberry. Works for sweetening stuff with pinkness.

My final recommendation is go mix the Cuttwood internal leak recipe. I don't think or claim it's the best strawberry cream/custard out there, it's not even strawberry heavy, but it was with this juice that I discovered I can taste strawberry faintly if supported by a suitable body. Or rather strawberry, even if not quite tasteable on its own, can sweeten/morph a body. Something in there made it work for me so I kept experimenting instead of giving up on strawberry forever.

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Some custards/creams tasting peppery: Also have this problem, and what I have discovered over the years is that this is mostly a TFA thing. Top offenders are TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, TFA Vanilla Custard and their chocolates (Don't really remember if it was both Milk & White or either one of them, has been a long time since I used any). For those who don't have it: Basically you taste a black pepper like note, it especially dominates the second half/exhale/trail part of the vape). Now strangely this pepper-flavor could become an acquired taste, at least it was the case with me. It's not a yucky/disgusting note to me, just odd. And over time I realized that I developed a liking for it, depends on your tastes.

Fortunately for those who don't like it, Vanilla Ice Creams and custards from other vendors are mostly OK, some recommendations would be Cap Vanilla Custard, INW Custard. Also non-diketone variants of the offending TFA flavors are not peppery to me, TFA Vanilla Bean Gelato & TFA Vanilla Swirl. However, I have also seen people tasting pepper in Capellas VC. They probably have a more severe case of pepper-tasting.

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Some caramels tasting awful: I also have this one, and whenever I see comments like "awful", "disgusting", "dumped it in the sink" etc. for a popular/well liked e liquid with caramel profile (think of Gambit, Boss Reserve type of profiles) I know these are my people. We are numerous but we are not yet well organized as the strawberry non-tasters and pepper tasters are. This oddity, unlike the others above makes the juice totally unvapable, even %1 of the offending flavor is a death sentence. If I have to describe it, I taste something like a burning dumpster, burning organic (vomit / rotten food) stuff mixed with burning plastic bags. (Sorry it's hard to describe)

Worst offenders for me are "rich" caramels. FW Salted Caramel, FLV Caramel, CAP Caramel, TFA Caramel Org. (to some extent).

I have found some caramels are OK, like TFA Caramel Candy, FA Caramel, MB Caramel. These don't have the off note, but they are not as rich I guess. The best flavoring I have found that works for me was FW Caramel Candy. Does not have the off note, and is somewhat rich. Also I have been trying to rewire my brain and power through this, I still do not enjoy the offending flavors but I can now tolerate them in very low amounts.

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Vanilla faintness: This, I think is also common. I remember reading at least one subreddit-favorite flavor reviewer (probably concreteriver but can't remember) mention this in his/her blog. Maybe vanilla is not supposed to be an in your face flavor, but anyway, this syndrome manifests itself in not being able to taste vanilla in a mix or standalone unless there is a huge amount of it. Thus it also makes it really hard to distinguish the subtleties of different vanillas from each other, for example FA Vanilla Bourbon vs FA Vanilla Classic.

My recommendation is once again using a vanilla with a body that enhances it, like cream or simply use Vanilla custards for the Vanilla fix. TFA Vanilla Swirl or TFA Vanilla Bean Gelato are good with other notes not completely overpowering the Vanilla. INW Shisha is just too creamy/custardy to me but people like it as an in your face Vanilla it seems. I can not get my hands on Holy Vanilla which is also well regarded. CAP French Vanilla is also strong, but also comes with strong custard/cream notes.

As for dry / non creamy Vanillas, the strongest I have encountered in my searches was FA Vanilla Tahity. This is a sharper vanilla but can be tasted strongly.

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To be continued if I remember anything else. Please feel free to add anything you are stricken by, the more people you know are affected, the better. Please remember this is about a general profile (e.g. Custard) rather than "XBrand Custard tastes bad to me".

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by Apexifiedover 6 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

Well your username certainly checks out!

5 points
 
by Kiviskusover 6 years ago

I get awful tastes from tpa honeydew at any percentage. Tastes like grass to me and I can pick it out blind in any recipe or premium juice.

1 points
 
by flavchallengedover 6 years ago

Talking about TFA Honeydew, as I overflavor Vanilla Swirl it becomes closer and closer to Honeydew. I bet they share some base flavor components.

5 points
 
by matthewkocandaover 6 years agoGrilled Stick

Can we please fucking talk about the TPA Juicy Peach aka TPA Razorblades? I swear, I don't have many sensitivities in this space, I don't get pepper from TPA VBIC, I can taste almost every strawberry, but almost every peach concentrate on the market makes me feel like I've just been throat fucked by three of Freddy Krueger's fingers.

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by juthincover 6 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Peach flavor compounds like to rape your throat with a razorwire-wrapped Louisville slugger, that's common enough. Luckily, it's a flavor worth avoiding just based on taste, so no big loss.

2 points
 
by amouthforwarover 6 years ago

You have a beautiful way with words coke can we'd be lost without you bud

2 points
 
by matthewkocandaover 6 years agoGrilled Stick

Appreciate you, pal. I do what I can.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 6 years agoI found my thrill on Blueberry Hill

I'm sorry you feel that way

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by matthewkocandaover 6 years agoGrilled Stick

I do too :(

1 points
 
by CloudsOverOrionover 6 years ago

Have you tried INW peach? It's super strong so start at like 1% but it awesomely realistic.

2 points
 
by ben_gamingover 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I know of several tools that allow you to view a digital design as it appears to people with different types of colorblindness. It’s probably a matter of time until science figures out a way to help us experience what people with various types of flavorblindness taste...

Until then, we can only do our best to index this stuff as best we can and to seek out a diversity of opinions relating to our recipes. Good idea, op, this will help us until reality catches up with my imagination, or someone else imagines a better solution.

2 points
 
by djrider69over 6 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I’m a blueberry non-taster as well as a pepper taster and it sucks... big time..

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by PepperMyJabrillover 6 years ago

I know exactly what you mean about the caramel aversion, but for me, it overlaps into a few other profiles as well. I first noticed it with CAP Caramel. To me, it tasted like earthy, burnt carpet. I said this somewhere else once before, but you know the burning smell when a vacuum cleaner gets caught on a piece of rug? If that were a taste, that's how I interpret CAP Caramel. I interpreted CAP Cake Batter in the same way, though that one tasted like someone mixed in a touch of vomit. I can pick up these notes in their VC v1 as well, but it's not as powerful and goes away in the right mix. This had me thinking it was more of a CAP problem for me than anything else, but I think it's gotta go back to a certain component.

I've had the most luck with FW's caramel flavors. With a lot others, all I can decipher is a sour, smokey flavor. CAP Caramel is really unpleasant, but FLV Caramel is a close second.

2 points
 
by wickman69over 6 years ago

With me it's melon. Anything with melon in tastes watery and not nice. I have no problem with any other flavours, just melon.

2 points
 
by zenotekover 6 years ago

FLV Wild Melon makes anything I put in it taste like Wild Melon. One drop? Wild Melon.

2 points
 
by noilianover 6 years ago"I Bet I Could Clone That"

Oh boy, I love through posts :) thank you so much for this, as I don’t feel that alone anymore. I have the non-strawberry and tfa-spicy-vanilla problems like you.

Another funny thing I noticed was with ws-23, I don’t really taste it that strong as others describe it. Did you experience something like that too?

1 points
 
by flavchallengedover 6 years ago

Hey thanks. Sadly I am not a fan of mentholated / cool type of vapes, so I never tried ws-23.

2 points
 
by Wendy556over 6 years ago

I have had issues tasting several flavors and have never stuck to one mix as an ADV for very long. Bakery, meringue and marshmallow flavors seem to mute everything I mix them with unless I use really low%. I wonder if those flavors need longer steep? I guess it’s worth testing to find out.

If you’re looking for a VBIC or vanilla substitute try vanilla swirl.

I can’t taste strawberry either but the closest I came was with a blend of 4%Cap sweet strawberry, 2%RF strawberry, and 4%red touch strawberry. However, it gives me flavor fatigue really fast and makes my tongue feel raw after 1-2 tanks. I’m going to try a test batch with lower % and mix in some cream and see how that goes. That batch also had a couple of drops of cactus and a small amount of menthol. Will make a couple test batches with and without the cactus and menthol to see if either of them helped bring out the strawberry or not.

1 points
 
by ilostmyredditover 6 years ago

I have this thing where any caramel store juice makes my mouth feel oily and gram crackers tastes like burnt croutons

1 points
 
by zenotekover 6 years ago

I can't taste TPA DX Peanut Butter. And I've heard it's the best, so no peanut butter flavored ejuice for me. I've tried 20% flavoring too. Anybody have a recommendation for a different PB flavoring?

1 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

FLV is supposed to be the next best...

1 points
 
by Kiviskusover 6 years ago

That's crazy I've never heard this one.

1 points
 
by St1llFrankover 6 years ago

I've never heard that either. I don't have it but read it tastes like just peanut with the skin on it. That could be way off tho, I dunno.

I'm fine with the original TFA Peanutbutter. I have the DX and use it too but it's not immensely better. It's just a little different, more creamy.

1 points
 
by amouthforwarover 6 years ago

I am in a similar boat, couldn't taste it until I tried Retaliatory Tariffs (was it id1ot's recipe?). That was the only pb i could actually taste. Which is weird because i have a handful of other flavors that are quite obviously peanuts, just not dx pb

1 points
 
by zenotekover 6 years ago

Does that recipe use a different flavoring for PB or does it come down to that recipe finding the magical percentage that maximizes flavor? Can you find that recipe for me? Appreciated.

1 points
 
by amouthforwarover 6 years ago

Just search it up on alltheflavors. Nothing magical really but he did a great job in using the supporting flavors to bring out the best in tfa dx pb

1 points
 
by sheldonopolisover 6 years ago

Well there is that honey flavor which smells like urine ofc but the 2 easily weirdest flavors were some "marihuana" and "bacon", which was from Capella I think.

The former tasting like some kind of citrus cleaner and the latter being that very same bacon flavor used on virtually every food that's not actually bacon. Very distinctive, I bet most of you had it before at some point. Actually wasn't all that bad to vape and a welcome alternative to sweetish flavors. For some reason I didn't restock it though.

1 points
 
by debb222over 6 years ago

The only thing I've had a problem with is coconut flavors....tastes like mildew to me..and I love real coconut...but tpa coconut candy is tolerable.... So i just use that...if I have to....

2 points
 
by amouthforwarover 6 years ago

Likewise. Every coconut tastes like lotion. Even at .25 and under it murders every profile i put it with, except tfa coconut candy.

1 points
 
by juthincover 6 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Hmm. Mildew tastes like Hawaiian Tropic?

1 points
 
by St1llFrankover 6 years ago

I can't get down with INW White Grapefruit. It smells like cat piss or old carpet urine. I loved INW Grapefruit (The plain one, or described "Yellow" at Vaperstek). BCF only has the White so I gave it a shot. One whiff and I gagged. I still tried to vape it but it tasted like it smelled.

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I know it's just me because a lot of people really like it. I haven't read anyone else have the same problem.

1 points
 
by HerrHutover 6 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Most of the melons I can't tolerate. Makes me wanna puke. FA Red Summer, TPA Honeydew, FLV Wild Melon and some German flavours I tried in the beginning. I like CAP Sweet Watermelon and LA Watermelon though.

1 points
 
by sheek360over 6 years ago

Vanilla. I don’t know why but vanilla tastes like burned cotton to me.

Custard. Can’t taste it at all

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by amouthforwarover 6 years ago

My bet is you got a dry hit vaping a vanilla juice once and its forever stained your association with vanilla hmm

1 points
 
by sheek360over 6 years ago

I don’t recall. But it is a possibility for sure

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by Chas_Kover 6 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I have only had one flavour that didn't agree with my taste. And it was FA pineapple, to me it tastes like onions. Others have noted this as well.

1 points
 
by Ernie_is_deadover 6 years agoFrugivore

Anything with Diacetyl in it tastes like very strong rancid burnt butter to me and makes me throw up after a few puffs.

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by juthincover 6 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

I wish I couldn't taste strawberry.

Or peach, or vanilla, or black licorice/anise.

Unfortunately, I can taste all those shitty things... Really narrows down recipes to try...

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