Welcome, Everyone.
This is your thread to chat about anything remotely DIY-related that might not fit into one or our other Weekly/Monthly threads or that you’re just not comfortable posting to the front page. If you’re a New Mixer check out the DIY Beginners Guide and the links below then feel free to ask about anything you’re still not clear on.
Current Weekly/Monthly threads (Archive of all weekly threads):
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Weekly ‘Suggest a Recipe for my Flavors’ Thread - You picked a bunch of flavors that either sounded good or were in recipes that looked good but now you want more ideas for what to do with them? Ask here and get suggestions.
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Weekly ‘What are you Vaping?’ Thread - Talk about the latest recipes you’ve mixed up whether they’re yours or someone else’s.
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Flavor of The Week - Every week the community gathers to discuss one flavor category and share recipes, notes, ideas, advice, pairings and more. After that the Noted crew (/u/ID10-T, /u/mlNikon & /u/CheebaSteeba) try as many flavors in that category as they can and discuss their impressions, opinions and notes.
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Throwback Thursday - The newest weekly thread/project to revamp and improve the resources in our sidebar with feedback from the community.
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FAQ Friday - Where I (and a few other contributors) tackle one Frequently Asked Question as comprehensively as possible.
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Monthly Recipe Thread - Share your recipes here with or without development notes.
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Monthly Clone Request Thread - Want a recipe or idea for how to mix your favorite commercial juice? This is the place to ask. Check out FAQ Friday: Clone Requests for some ideas on how best to ask and get closer to accomplishing your remix.
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Monthly Clone Challenge - A community driven effort to tackle one clone request at a time.
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How long does it take for the burning to stop after I rub INW Euc W/Mint directly on my nipples?
I'd tell you a story about me mincing serrano peppers with bare hands and the results my wife had from it but I'm not allowed to speak of it.
3.5 hrs. You're almost there. Don't give up
So on a cold and rainy day (rare for AZ) I'm cleaning and re-wicking my tanks and organizing my desk, basically taking a relaxing few hours to get some mixing done and see what I need to include in my next order.
As I'm moving bottles around I found a 10ml of Mango Blossom Macaron I mixed on 9/7 and forgot about. Running it in the dripper right now and wow this is really good! I dunno what an actual mango blossom macaron should taste like, but this is a great balance of nutty / cookie / sweet jammy flavors. Not a great description, but the best I can do. It is a great balance of flavors and gives that feeling of "Oh Yeah, THIS is what I've been looking for".
So a big thank you to /u/ID10-T for this recipe, and really to everyone else who puts their creations out here for guys like me to benefit from. Your work and contributions are VERY appreciated and I love looking through here and finding these kind of gems. Also a big thanks to everyone involved in keeping this sub going. I've learned so much going through all of the archived posts and conversations, I wouldn't be able to do this without it! THANK YOU TO EVERYONE HERE!
Hope everyone has a wonderful and safe new year holiday.
Happy New Year to you!
I love that recipe so much the exaggeration "I could literally drink this" is not an exaggeration with it. Seriously, try squirting a few drop directly into your cake hole. Being able to actually, no-joke drink 70/30 3mg Mango Blossom Macaron is all that got me through not vaping (trying to avoid dry socket after having some wisdom teeth cut out) for a few days without anyone getting hurt or killed.
Nothing to see here?
All the top posts were holiday sales and weekly threads. Not quite worth highlighting. And I’ve got an entire year of highlights to put together ;P
I took a recipe I normally make for my tanks/droppers, which is 4% TFA Fruit Loops and 5% TFA Bavarian Cream at 3mg nic level 70/30 VG PG ratio, and tried making a 35mg salt nic recipe by doubling the flavor percentages in a 60/40 VG PG ratio mix for my Berserker MTL RTA. However, the recipe takes mostly like nicotine. Barely get any Fruit Loop flavor out of it.
Any pointers?
You don't need to change anything for mtl attys. You're thinking of recipes for pods, which are low powered, mediocre devices for flavor
I don’t think that mtl and dtl taste the same but that doesn’t always mean more flavor is better. Try upping your percentages by 50% aand lowering it by 50%. I usually find that less is more but once doubled a recipe by accident and loved it for a little bit and then it got to be crazy loud. I realized that I liked it where it was.
The mistake here is doubling the TFA Bavarian Cream. 5% is already too high. TFA Bavarian cream contains between 5-25% Ethyl Maltol so it's no surprise you're not tasting anything. Try raising the TFA Fruit Loops to 6%, lower TFA Bavarian Cream to 2% and add another cream (which doesn't contain EM) at 1-2%. Also try adding in 0.25-0.5% CAP Super Sweet.
Any youtubers anyone here can recommend? Looking for a cat who can break things down in simplest terms. I’m new to this LOL
Hi everyone and thanks for the amazing subreddit. Just about to embark on mixing my own juice. Researched heavily on here the past week in the FOTW threads and the Flavour review threads. Massively helpful. I have the flavours I want to try along with the base ingredients and additives. Now im starting to look up recommended percentages.
My question is about % & i'm using CAP Harvest berry as an example. When looking at the flavour graph on All the juice, Would you advise using the "private" line as a starting point for what to mix at. To me it says I should try Harvest berry at 2-3% in a multiple flavour recipe and 6% as a solo.
Would that be a good way of using All the flavours site to decide my baseline for all these 10ml testers I intend on trying?
If not can you please suggest a better way to decide where to start. Thank you for all & any help you provide.
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I generally go to the flavors page and type in the name into the search bar. The flavor will come up with an average percentage and I just use that most of the time. If I want to single flavor test it, I may go up much higher and dilute the tester haphazardly later to get a feel for it but I’m sort of lazy. I like to get a ballpark figure and then star playing with the flavor.
More often though I look at the flavor wiki here first to see what a reviewer did because you’ll usually get a description of the flavor at a few different concentrations with a shit ton more descriptions. It allows me to decide where I want to start testing it at.
If you’re lucky enough the noted team will review it on YouTube and will give you 3-4 opinions and sometimes suggestions or tips. If you’re especially lucky the video will have times tabbed for you.
I often go to the individual page last because I’m trying to see how others used it in a recipe and pairing ideas.
Hope that helps.
I'm just curious - how often do y'all order supplies? How many concentrates do you own? Do you have a stash of the same flavors that you replenish or do you seek variety? Just found myself wondering.
According to my ATF inventory, I have 437. I know there’s quite a few more than that, but I got lazy about adding them. Pretty much just add them when I use them in a recipe now. Mostly I order randomly. Every now and then I will have to restock some things, but 90% of the time I’m just buying new things to try. I used to order about 5 flavors a week. I’ve slowed down the last few months though. Still at least once a month for flavors. Once every few months for bottles, VG and PG, and Nic.
Thanks for your reply! I can't imagine having that many flavors - but it's hard to find space for my 40 in my shoebox apartment, haha.
When I started I used to allow myself a $60/month budget and order twice a month. I now have about 600 flavors so I don't need to order that often. Once every couple of months usually. There are 2 types of purchases for me: Restocking flavors that I use a lot of and buying flavors to try other folk's recipes.
I don't usually buy things just to try. I learned a hard lesson when I started. I usually wait for a recipe or flavor review to come along.
Since starting 8 months ago I've placed like 7-8 orders totalling multi-hundreds lol. A little overzealous but I only got 10mLs to sample a lot and find out what floats my boat. I'm just now beginning to find out what I use a lot of and my last order was 30ml and 2oz versions of stuff like FW fruit rings and INW yes we cheesecake, respectfully.
I do also seek variety and purposefully delayed an order of essentials so I would intuit some new profiles, which was fun and interesting. Came across a gem or two.
Havent counted, need to load everything up on ATF but if I had to guess I likely have between 200-225 flavors and feel like after I place this gremlindiy order I'll be set for A WHILE. Yes I have an "addictive personally" but DIY ejuice is a much better option than heroin.
When I use nic salts to make my juice I end up with this yellowish oil-like stuff that floats to the top of my juice. Has anybody had this happen before?
I've been getting my nic salt from nicotine river.
Not experienced that with nicotine. Usually it's a flavor that causes separation. What flavors are you using?
I'm using flavour art peppermint and spearmint.
So I finally bought my first RDA and Squonk mod.
Juice is getting hella expensive so I bought 4000ml of VG, 1000ml of PG, and 120ml of Grape PG Flavoring.
I was thinking of doing 70VG, 20PG, and 10PG Flavor for my juice (this juice is for cloud/flavor chasing, for use with the Athena RDA, and my UWell Valyrian)
Is this a good ratio for nice clouds and decent flavor?
Also how long should I shake and let my juice sit for before it's ready to vape?
10% is rather high. That's a good ratio to use, however without knowing the Grape flavor you bought, we can't tell you whether it's going to taste good or not.
Good site to buy PG, VG, and supplies for DIY ejuice?
Looking for quality, trustworthy site, and good price. Plus bottles and scales. I'm just starting to get into making my own supplies. I don't need a site that has flavors either I found another good site for that, there's so many sites it's hard to know what's good.
I looked into capella flavors and they seem good. All there concentrates have the nasty chemicals removed from them. But had anyone tried there flavors?
Definitely check out the sidebar/community info. This will provide you with hours of reading. Specifically read the faq Fridays for some real in-depth info. On mobile and lazy or I’d link.
thank you, on desktop now didn't see the info i needed on my phone for some reason
I buy my VG and nicotine from Nicotine River. $15 for a gallon of VG, $9 for 150 mL of 100 mg/mL nicotine (and the cost per mL goes down a bit if you want a larger bottle, but I prefer buying smaller amounts more often). They sell PG as well, but since I mix at max VG, I've never tried theirs. I'm sure it's fine.
Then I add a few flavors – they don't have the best prices or selection for flavors, but it's not too bad, and they give free shipping for orders of $50+. Basically you get those flavors for free, since you don't have to pay to ship the heavy stuff. I usually buy a bunch of 10–15 mL bottles of flavors that I want to try, and the ones which are good I add to my next order from BCV or Gremlin.
Bottles I usually buy from Amazon as it's cheaper that way as long as you buy in bulk. Nicotine River, BCV, and Gremlin also sell bottles, but I only buy bottles from them if I need something to push my order above the threshold for free shipping.
A scale is only a one-time purchase unless it breaks or you want something different (like a smaller scale for portability, or a larger one to make larger batches of juice). But you can't go wrong with the standard AWS LB-501. 500 g capacity (good for ~400 mL, the required 0.01 g precision you need, can run on AA batteries or the included AC adaptor, backlit and easy to read screen, can hold up to the occasional spill, and usually goes for ~$25 shipped on Amazon).
I'm looking to create a few one shots to make my mixing easier when I'm ready to make larger bottles. I just had a question regarding steeping
- If mixing Custard/Creams and letting the flavor profiles mix for 2-4 weeks before adding to my mixture, would this help speed up the steeping process when I'm ready to mix it into my base? Obviously I'd let it sit for a few days afterward but I was curious if this would help.
- Does anyone else do this for ADVs that they have found?
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It won't, at least not in any noticeable way. I've seen people claim that there are interactions between different flavor molecules and that a flavor base causes that to happen. But when it comes to the finished product, I've never seen a significant reduction in steeping time.
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I don't have an ADV but I have several one shots for the people I sell juice to because it definitely makes the process of mixing the same things over and over again much more convenient.
If you find yourself vaping the same handful of recipes often, it might be worth it. But if you're looking for a shortcut for steeping, I'd suggest just mixing up a big batch instead.
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No not really as it still needs blend with the pg/vg/nic. Could always give INW custard a go. Can confirm it can be used in a SNV. Could also try a pre-steeped custard/cream base. Never done it but it is a thing. Search for it. There's info on it here somewhere.
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I don't but I'm sure others do.
I'm ready to start mixing, bought a bunch of flavors to try recipes from others , mostly found on e-liquid-recipes.
Before I start trying recipes with multiple flavors, I thought I'd try out a couple One Shots that I picked up from Liquid Barn.
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Before I even take the scale out I see that I already have a question - There are no listed steep times for 2 of them: Melon Head by Mr. Good Vape and The Man by One Hit Wonder.
Having not tried either retail version I wouldn't know what their supposed to taste like.
Anyone have any experience with these? I sent a message to LB but I'm impatient and want to mix something tonight.
Fruits generally zero steep.
Everything else depends on the concentrates used. If give The Sweetener. Sorry, I meant The Man about 5 days.
Has anyone tried any of the Reds Iced flavors that could give me some insight into what kind of coolant they use? I've tried a few menthol flavors before I knew there were other coolants and those were not it.
New to the DIY scene, I am wanting to make a spearmint, peppermint and wintergreen juice but have had no luck finding a recipe. Does anyone around here have one they could share?
Choose the best flavors for those profiles and use them at their recommended percentages. Mint only recipes are gonna be a personal preference kind of thing. I'm sure by searching the sub/ATF/flavor vendor you'll find the best brands.
If you haven't already seen it Flavor of the Week: Mint and the accompanying episode of Noted will be helpful on your quest.
Does anyone know who made this recipe and if it's a 2018 recipe? Hakuna Matata
I can't find it here in /r/DIY_eJuice
It's from 2016.
Thanks kindground! I can't see "created on" dates on ATF, maybe I'm blind or need a paid account?
I just bought a 5 litre bottle of VG?
Stupid question but I use pipettes and syringes, so when the bottle gets emptier I won’t be able to reach it with the pipettes? What do you guys do to combat this ?
Transfer to a smaller bottle, preferably condiment-style, and then mix by weight so that pipettes and syringes become unnecessary.
I do mix by weight but use the pipette so I’m not pouring a huge bottle !
The smaller condiment bottles would be perfect. Thank you !
Yep, if you have been using a pipette to transfer VG, you will save sooo much time with a condiment or similar type bottle. Also, if you make a "base" of your usual VG/PG and nicotine and keep a bottle of that handy, you will be amazed how much easier it is when mixing. I make mine in 500 ml bottles.
This is probably a stupid question but I see that almost all recipes from users of this subreddit are in alltheflavors.com while e-liquid-recipes.com seems to have more content and bigger user base overall. I am mostly interested on the social aspect (finding new recipes to clone/mix/adapt) so I am wondering, which of the two it makes more sense to "invest in" and start to use or whether I should use both (and have stashes and recipes duplicated for example). What do you do?
Use both. There's no reason to disregard one platform over the other. ATF is nicer from a UX perspective, but ELR has a longer history. For the socials, I go to this sub ;)
UX is a weird thing, ATF is nicer but honestly ELR is way more obvious regarding to do the basic stuff :)
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I will probably end up using both (ad you say) and I feel that ELR will be mostly my tool but I will be looking at ATF for inspiration.
now that diy classifieds is banned, where would i go about selling this lot of flavors i have?
I have seen people do that here in this sub, I think, as long as no nicotine is involved. There are people more knowledgeable about the rules concerning these kinds of things. /u/apexified /u/ID10-T
Are you selling off all of your flavors because you stopped mixing or vaping or something like that?
Yes! Selling because I’ve stopped mixing
I'm new to DIY. Placed an order for 75 flavors that interest me. How do you guys suggest I start..
I've picked out 10 recipes I would like to make. I can make those and go from there or
I was thinking maybe I can start with a base recipe and add flavors I like... like a cheesecake base and a cream base and add the flavors I like to them. Or
Mix up 10mls of each flavor and try them all then mix up more 10ml batches of 2 flavors that I thinknwork well together and go from there
Basically I don't know how to start. Please help.
For beginners it's recommended to pick recipes you like (or might like) and buy those flavorings. There's a good chance as you go and look for more recipes you'll get the most common flavorings used (like TFA sweet strawberry, CAP v. custard v1, TFA graham clear, CAP sugar cookie, etc). Once you've seen a number of recipes and read their development notes, you'll understand how flavors work and how you can use or adjust them or even create your own mix. More often than not, mixers who try to do it on their own without prior knowledge will fail because they lack the understanding of how the flavors work.
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The benefit of the above approach is you slowly build your collection while being satisfied since the recipes you'll likely start out are the tried and true or widely loved recipes in the diy world. Or, if you didn't like some, you can be sure that you'll use some flavorings for other recipes. The fear with your approach is you might spend so much on those flavorings, try a few, don't like them, and chuck the entire endeavor altogether.
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Since you already got them, I recommend trying to still research recipes you'll be interested in, and if need be, purchase those. (side note: I Hope you didn't get TFA honey hehe). In my case, I started with maybe 15 recipes which called for around 25+ flavorings. Now I have probably 80 recipes (all taken online, as I have no capability to experiment myself) and around 100+ flavorings.
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If you're interested in cheesecakes though, DIYORDIE has a good cheesecake base online. Adding fruits is generally easier, but can still be tricky coz the fruits need to stand up to the potent cheesecake base, but adding too much and it'll mute the flavors.
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Happy hunting! :)
Which cheesecake flavors did you get?
Also paste your order in this thread and you'll surely get some suggestions!
Out of curiosity, how much attention do you pay to whether a recipe is marked as "no derivatives" on ATF?
Have no clue what you're talking about so I guess for me, never lol
ATF lets you indicate a license for your recipe, one of which is the Creative Commons No Derivatives version, which basically means you're not allowing people to make derivative recipes from your recipe. But it's questionable whether these really mean anything.
One more question for this week from me: where is the right place to ask for a work in progress recipe or simply an idea that you may have? Is it this weekly questions thread, the weekly "what are you vaping" thread, a front page question, ... elsewhere?
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I have started since day 1 to try to come up with my own recipes (after researching a lot) and even though some attempts feel "nice", I'm pretty sure that someone experienced could vastly improve them.
You can post it in any of those places.
Front page requires that you share development notes, of course. But if you want to get helpful and applicable advice for a recipe you're working on, you'd want to include those anyway. Make sure to include details about why you chose the flavors you did and what specifically you're not getting that you desire and people will be able to recommend substitutes or changes that will get you closer.
If you're just after a certain profile you could ask for recommendations here or in the 'suggest a recipe..' thread and then get ideas from the recipes that are recommended.
I usually vape 85% or higher VG ejuice that I buy from a local shop. I picked up some liquid barn VG/nice base that is 3mg 70/30 VG/pg and some watermalone concentrate. There is significantly more throat hit than I am used to. Is there any characteristics that will help me differentiate between bad nicotine harshness or higher PG harshness.
I wouldn't really think you'd be able to discern that small of a PG difference. But anything is possible. You can get some VG and add to your preferred ratio.
I don't know if I've ever heard complaints from LB nicotine. How much water Malone did you use?
Another question/need confirmation on my math. Using the formula found at https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaping/comments/597cc1/is_there_a_calculator_for_adding_nicotine_to/#ampf=undefined
100 ml +/- of e-juice from a local vape shop that mixes there own juice (I'll get an accurate # on premade when it's time, for now lets say 100 ml)
End nic mg/ml is 12, current is 9 mg/ml and my nic is 100 mg/ml CNT from Liquid Barn.
I came up with 3.41 ml. Well, to be far, excel came up with it, I just want to make sure I set the formula up right.
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