I really enjoy something with a Fire Cured leaf involved. For the Latakia mixes- Dunhill Nightcap, Dunhill Early Morning Pipe, and Dunhill My Mixture 965 have been some of my favorites. I’ve also done an extraction of Peter Stokkebye’s Black Latakia that I’ve tried using as a replacement for FA Black Fire. The only real issue I have with Latakia blends is that Latakia is a very strong flavor, and usually ends up dominating the NET, so they all taste pretty similar.

Kentucky blends have a similar smoky quality to them, but I think they have a bit more character and they allow some of the other leaves in the blend to shine. My first experience was with some Mac Baren HH Old Fire Cured. That stuff is great. There’s a bit of a tart note to the smoke flavor that reminds me a bit of a really smoky BBQ sauce. I’ve also had some Peter Stokkebye Dark Fired, which I enjoyed quite a bit. I’ve got some C & D Dark Fired Kentucky soaking right now, and a sample of it seems pretty promising. If anyone has any Kentucky blends that they’ve had success with, let me know!

VaPer blends have been surprisingly tasty as well. I have done an extraction of Perique and vaped it straight, and wasn’t too in to it. Very strange flavor on its own. But there’s probably a reason that it is often mixed with Virginia. It really takes the edge off of it and mellows the whole thing out. Really strange that I seem to taste a bit of cocoa in the few VaPers that I’ve tried. Pretty limited experience so far- I’ve had C & D Exclusive and Bayou Morning. Bayou Morning being my favorite of the two. There is Virginia and Perique in Dunhill Nightcap, but it’s overshadowed by the Latakia in the extraction. I’ve got some McClelland 2015 Virginia Perique Flake and Escudo Navy De Luxe soaking right now, but haven’t sampled yet. Pretty excited about those two.

Probably my favorite NET has been Solani Aged Burley Flake. It’s rich, dark, and flavorful. The tin lists Chocolate as a flavoring used, and it actually comes through pretty well in the NET. When I mixed it at 3% for direct lung vaping, I got a fairly nutty flavor. When I did 10% for MTL, the chocolate was the star of the show. You basically have to sign up for a notification for when it is in stock to be able to grab a tin. It comes and goes so fast, and I understand why. The tin note is wonderful. I get a little bit of the raisin note that you get sometimes from fresh tobacco, and a dark, earthy tobacco with some cocoa. My first extraction of it was 3 months in cold PG. Didn’t use any heat assist at all, and it still came out beautifully. The batch I have soaking right now I did a 12 hour heat start, and the rest of the time cold. Should be good to filter around Christmas, which is fitting.

Speaking of filtering, I use an Aeropress for that. I do one pass with no filters to get all the big chunks of leaves out, then a pass with the regular coffee filters that come with the Aeropress. Then I filter again through a 1.5 micron filter. I know some with run through the small filter a few times to try to get the cleanest product possible, but I never bother with that. It can take up to a day to get through the 1.5 micron filter once, so I ain’t trying to make filtering a week long process for one jar. Especially when I usually have 3 or 4 jars ready to filter at once.

Extraction method- I used to always just do cold PG. I’d let it steep for 1-3 months usually, and always had decent enough results. I’ve got about 10 jars steeping right now, and all of them had a 12 hour heat, and then cold maceration for what will be about 3 months. A lot of what I’ve got going is from Leaf Only. I got a few Cigar leaves to see how that goes. Finally got a regular Flue Cured Virginia, and also Izmir Turkish. I’ve also got the C & D Izmir Turkish going right now too. Excited to see how the C & D compares to the whole leaf Izmir.

I feel like I’m starting to ramble now, so I’ll just stop there.

Edit: jk, not stopping. Wanted to just throw out a quick thing about how I vape NETs. I used to try them between 3-10% in a DTL tank, but the flavor was always a bit too heavy on the vegetal/plant matter taste. Which makes sense, I suppose since it is plant matter. I’ve come to appreciate them a lot more mixing them 10-15% for MTL. There’s still a bit of that vegetal Base in there, but the true flavor of it comes through a lot better. Also easier to rewick a single coil MTL tank every 5-10 ml than a dual coil DTL tank.

When it comes to NET I only have one answer: La Tabaccheria.

It's a small company based in Italy which has become insanely popular among italian vapers, where there is a veritable culture of natural tobacco extracts. They have become the de-facto standard in the EU regarding NATs.

Their concentrates are cold-extracted simply by pressing tobacco leaves (except for the "Macerated" line) and they are not mixed with anything other than PG and they taste absolutely insane. Since I've first tried them I pretty much stopped vaping anything else.

They have different lines of products, ranging from single tobacco extracts to special and more quirky blends. The most noteworthy line (IMHO) is the "Barrique" line, where the concentrates are matured in actual oak barrels for some time, giving to the liquids a distinct woody, barrique note. Also pretty much every concentrate in the "Elite" line is worth a try, especially if you like cigar tobacco.

My favorite concentrates:

• "Kentucky USA" ("Elite" line; smoky with hints of honey, but not too sweet. It has been described as "BBQ sauce and honey"). My favorite e-juice ever. Not to be confused with the "Kentucky" extract (which is also good, but different and less complex).
• "English Mixture" ("Barrique" line; latakia-based, tastes like incense and oak wood and smoke and a lot of other magnificent stuff. Best vaped while drinking brown liquor, such as whiskey or rum). It's a close second for me.
• "Latakia" (single-tobacco extract, strong and good as hell. Vape it while drinking strong whiskey.)
• "American Blend" ("Barrique" line; virginia-based, pretty light, sweet and grassy. I love vaping it in summer with a pale ale beer in my hand)

I've also heard very good things about the "Baffometto" and the "Baffometto Reserve" (both belonging to the "Hell's mixtures" limited line), but I did not have the chance to try them yet.

My advice is to go to their website and read through their infos about every liquid, the whole extraction process and the philosophy behind their products, which shows a huge passion and how seriously they take their job. These guys are seriously crazy.

Note 1: their products are highly concentrated (quoting from their website, "4 times as concentrated as the market average"), so you'll mostly need to dilute them at 5-6% tops. 4% for pure Latakia. They also require no steeping.

Note 2: as with any other NET, they contain natural sugars, which means they gunk your coils very fast, especially if you don't use distilled water in the mix (I don't and it's fine). I would not use them on a non-rebuildable atom.

Note 3: being an italian company, it might be difficult to find them in the US. The website has an online shop, but I don't know about the shipping costs. If you can get ahold of them, they're definitely worth a try.

Note 4: they also produce ready-made e-juices, but I've never tried them.

Note 5: I know this post may sound like an ad, but I am in no way affiliated with them. Just a very happy customer, lol.

Note 6: about the italian NET culture, also check out Azhad's Elixirs, another italian firm which produces awesome NATs.

Kinnickynick makes some awesome N.E.T's as well, some tobaccos are strong, some are weak. I had one at 20% and could still barely taste it..others i used at 4% at it was the strongest flavor profile I've ever tasted in a juice. Awesomely awesome and especially with the legendary juices that are N.E.T's mixed with potential other flavorings. (Boba's Boutny, Heathers Heavenly Vapes) and whatnot.

Hmm. So, I recently got in a number of the Stixx Mix NETs. (I would only really feel comfortable doing my own NETs if I still had access to a fully equipped lab, so I could use a centrifuge and then vacuum aided filtration. Which I'm sure is probably more thorough than professional NETs do, but I can at least pretend they're that thorough.) I'm unsure tho, where to start with it. Try the one least likely to be great first, and work my way up to the aged Burley? Or start with it? And should I give them the standard month steep, or are they more like FLV in being gtg.right away? Anyone else have any experience with them?

This is where you want to be for NETs:https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forums/liquid-extraction-from-tobacco.489/

and here: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/natural-tobaccos-part-deux.519685/ and here: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/favorite-tobacco-flavoring-discussion-tobacco-flavoring-discussion-only.667055/

It’s been 2 years now that I’ve gone 100% DIY NET juice on daily basis. Roughy 60 NET macerations later and I’m still finding new tobacco(s) I want to try... the process never gets old.

A little bit off topic. I've read somewhere that some Hangsen Tobacco flavors are NETs or have some traces of NETs in them, so I went ahead and got four of their most recommended flavors. Desert Ship, Gold and silver, Highway and Red USA Mix.

Mixed all of them at 5% (As per some ECF and ELR recommended percentage, which I later discovered was for older atomizers), and left them to steep for 6-7 months.

They all tasted the same or very close to me. All tasted harsh. The differences I could find was that Highway was a bit sweeter with a hint of caramel/honey and USA Mix has a slight bite/metallic taste to it which is similar to the popular Red cigarettes. Those flavors have an underling complexity to them, which leads me to believe they were extracted or derived from actual tobacco leaves. They also tasted very close to FA Glory which I like.

I then diluted all those mixed to 2.5% and waiting for them to steep before trying again. All was tested on “modern” MTL RTAs and RDAs.

My question is: Am I doing something wrong?

I've read through all those elr NET threads, and made the dive myself a few months ago. Only sampled one so far, but I have about 6-7 jars steeping now, and another 3-5 tobaccos to jar up. Along with a list of about 5-8 more tobaccos I want to pick up. Got two tins of Early Morning Pipe while they were still in stock on one site. I wish I'd have bought 10 now. Got some Solani Aged Burley Flake, Solani Virginia Flake, PS Dark Fired (the only one I've sampled so far), MB HH Old Dark Fired, Molto Dolce, and a couple various others I can't remember at the moment. I also got two random cigars to extract just to see how it goes. Dunno what they were, but they were reviewed positively.

Man, that Aged Burley Flake is hard to get. Even when the email comes in for restock you gotta be quick. Even waiting half a day could cause you to miss out. And SmokingPipes has a two tin per customer per day limit on the stuff.

Closer to Christmas time I'm gonna throw down a big order and stock up on tobacco for the upcoming years. I figure I'll get 8 oz bulk HH Old Dark Fired and as many Aged Burley Flakes as I can afford. I missed out on Dunhill blends. I came in right as they were going out. Right as the last stock was disappearing. Wanted to try Elizabethan Mixture and 965. Only Dunhill I found in stock was Ye Olde Signe and Early Morning Pipe. I checked eBay earlier for shits and giggles, and EMP is definitely rocketed upwards in price. Shame. I think EMP will make a fine NET. I also picked up a cheap cob pipe to compare smoked tobacco with the NET version. So far the only tobacco I enjoy in the pipe is ABF and EMP. And Old Dark Fired. Mostly, everything else just tastes like burning tobacco.

I'm about two weeks away from my first NET jars being at two months steep. I did PG, cold steep. No heat at all. Gonna see how it goes. Need to get an Aeropress, as seen in the ELR threads. I've also gotten countless great info from ChemicalBurnVictim's posts there, as well as everyone else who posts there regularly. When I took the 1 month sample of my first jar, mixed it up, and finally vaped it, I involuntarily said "oh my god." It was beyond anything I even thought possible.

So would NETs be the way for a true authentic tobacco/cigarette flavor.

I got the nude nicotine tobacco flavouring the other day. It comes in a vial and it's very dark brown, thick and aromatic.

I mixed it up at 2% and left it two weeks. It tastes very real, like smelling a fresh bag of tobacco. It also feels very dry and dusty.