Throwback... Sunday? Today will not be known as Taco Tuesday. It will be known as freedom Friday, but still on a Tuesday!
This is part of project I agreed to take on after it was pointed out that so many of the resources in sidebar and wiki are ancient. The idea is, rather than revising them myself, I'd post them here once per week to gather feedback on how to improve them. They belong to all of us, everyone should have a say in what they say.
The First Order Flavors haven't been updated since 2016.
I still think it's pretty solid list, but surely we can come up with a slightly improved, more up-to-date one than this?
The "first order flavors" lists have always been created via a contest thread. The most recent 2016 update was the first one that attempted to address a problem inherent in having a first order flavors list -- people would order a bunch of flavors from the list and then not know what to do with them, resulting in a lot of "What I can I make with these flavors?" posts. The current version provides a list of recipes one could make using only flavors from the list. Let's do that again. Here's how you can help and be heard.
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Nominate a flavor that you think belongs on the "First Order Flavors" list.
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Provide a relatively simple (no more than 5 flavors), accessible, peer-reviewed recipe that uses that flavor.
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Upvote others' nominations that you agree with.
For example, if I thought TFA Strawberry Ripe belonged on the list, I might post this:
> TFA Strawberry Ripe > > God Milk
Any upvotes my nomination gets would count as votes for Strawberry Ripe. The recipes will be used to put together a list of "What can I make?" examples at the bottom of the First Order Flavors list -- provided all of the flavors in there make the cut. So if I wanted, I could make another post listing the same recipe, like this:
> TFA Bavarian Cream > > God Milk
Or I could post the flavor again with a different recipe and try to get even more votes for Strawberry Ripe:
> TFA Strawberry Ripe > > Mother of God's Milk
But I wouldn't post the same flavor AND the exact same recipe as someone else, because that's just creating clutter.
This is going to be an enormous pain to tally up, but I can't think of a better way to give everyone a voice in choosing which flavors go on the list and which recipes will be provided at the bottom as "just a few of the recipes you can make using these suggested 'first order' flavors."
I'll leave this thread in contest mode for a month before locking it and tallying up the results on 12/12.
Next week, the topic for Throwback Thursday - which might actually happen on Thursday this time - will be "See something, say something" - come prepared with problems you see in the sidebar resources. What still needs to be added, subtracted, or dragged out of the distant past and given a fresh coat of 2018-19?
FA Forest Fruit
FA Fuji
CAP Vanilla Custard
TFA Vanilla Swirl
INW Shisha Strawberry
TFA Dragonfruit
FA Lemon Sicily
INW Cactus
TFA Bavarian Cream
because somebody had to go first
CAP Sugar Cookie
Can I replace the sugar cookie with fa cookie and custard with inw custard?
If yes, what % do you recommend along with steep time. I have a very limited selection of flavours
TFA Strawberry Ripe
DIYFS Holy Holy Grail RY4
FLV Pink Guava
TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
Probably one of my most used flavors.
INW Shisha Vanilla
CAP Sweet Tangerine
FLV Red Burley
TFA Raspberry Sweet
TFA Strawberry
TFA Honeysuckle
FW Butterscotch Ripple
FLV Kentucky Blend
Classic for Pipe Gold (Gold for Pipe)
lighter blend tobacco/Pipe
TFA Kentucky Bourbon
INW Dirty Neutral Base
FLV Cream
OoO Milky Undertones
This is really hard because it assumes that everyone who is starting out likes all the flavor profiles, floral, fruity, fruit and cream, dessert, bakery, tobacco, mint/menthol/cooling, etc
I mentioned it before but I think it would be nice to have a FOF for each flavor profile and then segment it by top x, top y, and top z for each category so people can order based on their profile and their budget.
That said I'm going to go with FA Carmel I guess
Recipe: https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/65038
FLV Cream
INW Shisha Strawberry
Edit: Just noticed already posted. Ignore this, I've upvoted the other.
FLV Watermelon
JF Honey Peach
FA Meringue
VT Persian Lime
Classic for Pipe Black (Black for Pipe)
tobacco/pipe profiles
CAP New York Cheesecake
HS Ice Cream
FLV Guanabana
I agree that this really should be broken down or organized by profile. maybe after the tally is up in a month, i'll put my money where my mouth is and try to reorganize the results or mine this thread to see if there's some way to compile what gets left out into one master list. not making any promises... maybe people can add a small note on what kind of profile it fits?
vt fizzy sherbet
for drinks
TFA Toasted Marshmallow
CAP Double Apple
FW Graham Cracker
FW Butterscotch Ripple
FLV Milk and Honey
TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust
LA Banana Cream
CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl v1
CAP Super Sweet
LA Lemonade Purple Lemonade
FA Almond
TFA Banana Cream
LA Cream Cheese Icing
DFS(DIYFS) Holy Vanilla
INW Lemon Mix Purple Lemonade
WS-23 Purple Lemonade
INW Grapes Purple Lemonade or GIGI
WF Angel Cake
CAP Lemon Meringue Pie
7 ingredients, but one is an optional sweetener, and a couple of other good mixers.
So is the upvote for the flavor, or the flavor and recipe? That is, what do we do with good flavors, but the recipe has something shitty like strawberry in it?
It only counts for the flavor, but the recipe is your “this is why you should vote for this flavor.” Also I hoped to list a few recipes people can make using the these top flavors, but I’m going to search far and wide for these recipes, I’ll just use the ones in this thread. For example if Forest Fruit makes the cut, I’ll look through the recipes for forest fruit here in this thread and see if the other ingredients also got voted in. If they did, I’ll list it as one of recipes you can make using this democratically elected list of recommended first order flavors. I don’t know how many people actually make use of the first order flavors list, but it’s nice to have that to offer to newcomers should they wish to use it.
Frankly I think the old one should be archived there as well because there will be lots of recipes that could be made with those as well.
TFA Acetyl Pyrazine 5%
So there's a few JF Flavors that I think are good to have stocked, but I'd hesitate to add them for a first order list since it limits your options for vendors. Ones I'd consider would be Strawberry Sweet, Yellow Cake, Biscuit, Milk Chocolate, RY4 Double.
VT Creaming Soda