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Been mixing my own juice for years, but want to start mixing nic salts.
submitted almost 7 years ago by deewon

Making juice for sub-ohm I mix 20% flavor and high VG (80/20 final). Moving into nic salts it looks like you mix to 50/50 PG/VG, keep the flavor profile simple, and everyone seems to say MORE FLAVOR. I'm already @ 20% flavor, should I still up it?

After searching around on the sub, it looks like it's just as easy to mix salts (If I, say, start with a 250mg HIT nic base from NicRiver) as it is to mix regular. Just use a juice calculator program, add PG/VG and flavor to get it to 50% VG/PG and down to say 35MG nic strength.

Is it really as easy as regular mixing, or is there something big I haven't yet seen? I'm new to salts, and I don't want to continue to buy salt juice. I want to make it like I make all my other juices.

EDIT: I guess I should have mentioned that I am going to be mixing salts for use in a pod system. A Breeze 2. I hadn't yet even considered mixing nic salts for my sub ohm setup.

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13 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 7 years agoMixologist

You mix salts the same way you do freebase. The difference depends on the device you are using

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by bighedstevalmost 7 years ago

Mix the exact same as freebase. I mix salts at 3mg just like I did freebase. 100mg/ml freebase is the same as 100mg/ml salts (or whatever mg you have). You don't have to change the pg/vg ratio at all.

1 points
 
by Sethly87almost 7 years ago

I am actually interested in this; is there an advantage to using nic salt in a "low" nic juice like the 3/6 mg range? Does it still offer better hit and whatever other properties over freebase at that level?

1 points
 
by bighedstevalmost 7 years ago

At 3mg, there’s zero harshness or throat hit. I’m sure 6mg would be the same or close. That’s my main reason for switching off freebase. Get the same satisfaction nicwise as freebase. Other than that, no difference at all.

4 points
 
by Apexifiedalmost 7 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

> I'm already @ 20% flavor

Do you only mix one recipe? Your flavor percentage shouldn't be static.

6 points
 
by deewonalmost 7 years ago

I mix with a bunch of different flavors, but over time have learned what I like and what to stay away from, which flavors are super strong, which are weaker, etc. I'll mix 20% flavor but adjust my percentages of each individual flavor (as part of the mixture) based on experience. But, yes, overall I keep it at 20%.

10 points
 
by Biffabinalmost 7 years ago

Dude you're missing out on so much

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by Apexifiedalmost 7 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

Not trying to criticize your method; if it works for you, that's great. But out of curiosity are you saying that, for example, if you're mixing 3 flavors that all work at 5% you increase all three to hit 20% or find another flavor to add that brings the total to 20%?

3 points
 
by trecentersalmost 7 years ago

I use them at 3mg salt nic in the same recipes on the same sub-tanks as other nicotine. The only difference is that I do not get a pepper taste anymore. Yay for nic salt.

2 points
 
by ecolii_almost 7 years ago

I’m mixing salt nic for my Breeze 2. Just started really, but it seems going a couple percentage points is the way to go for better flavor.

1 points
 
by deewonalmost 7 years ago

So more than 20% flavor is what you're mixing to?

7 points
 
by cupajafferalmost 7 years ago

Usually you dont mix that much flavor, that would taste like crap in my opinion

2 points
 
by Chriswheelaalmost 7 years ago

If you’re going from 80/20 vg/pg to 50/50 you need to wind those flavour percentages down! Way down! The more PG in the mix the better it carries flavour. 20% plus flavour depending on the flavour probably will be way over kill. I mix at around 6% with 50/50!

2 points
 
by deewonalmost 7 years ago

Good call. It's been so long since I've mixed 50/50 that I totally forgot that PG is the better flavor carrier. Thank you!

1 points
 
by a_james_calmost 7 years ago

So to make nic salts it's generally the same as freebase and you don't need to add anything like benzoic acid or whatever? Thought it was more complicated.

6 points
 
by Waffle_Making_Pandaalmost 7 years ago

The acid part is done to the nic before it gets to you

2 points
 
by deewonalmost 7 years ago

You use a salt nic base rather than a freebase nic base is my understanding.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 7 years agoMixologist

The acid is what reverts the freebase

1 points
 
by ecolii_almost 7 years ago

I just started DIY, and I’m using flavor ratios as noted, and I am very disappointed. I heard Wayne Walker talking about needing to up the flavor percentages for salt nic. So, my next batches are going to be increased in flavors. I’m vaping a strawberry cheesecake with only three flavors and it is near insipid.

3 points
 
by ben_gamingalmost 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

That sounds like a fault of the device and/or recipe, are you mixing for a Juul? It’s not known for its ability to handle complex flavor profiles. Salt nic is not the problem. I tried a number of strawberry cheesecake recipes before I found one I liked, and the secret was not adding more quantity or variety of flavor or changing the nic type.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 7 years agoMixologist

LB Strawberry Cheesecake

1 points
 
by BadVladTheMadLadalmost 7 years ago

As somebody in a similar situation to you as far as mixing experience, I really appreciated your explanation of how to mix with nic salts. Thanks man

1 points
 
by RealBucksteralmost 7 years ago

I mix my juices by the liter, then add nic to order. Freebase or salts the recipe stays the same with no noticable difference in taste.

1 points
 
by ecolii_almost 7 years ago

Breeze 2.

1 points
 
by lionhrt9almost 7 years ago

>going

I just made of some juice for a pod system (only 10ml), Breeze 2. I make my own salt juice and have for awhile now. To format the juice for a pod system I doubled the flavor concentrates the receipe calls for and upped the concentration of salt nic to 30mg. I usually vape 6mg salt nic. This was my 1st go around and the juice was really nice. May up the flavors more like 2.5 ratio but the salt nic concentrate at 30 was perfect,.......for me.

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