So i vape 36 mg nicotine salts in various pod systems and i find this to be my sweet spot. I currently have 2 mods which i don't use because all my regular eliquids are nicotine free. Although, i just ordered 500ml of 36 mg strength nicotine and i want to make my regular eliquids about the same strength as my nicotine salts. With the mods, i usually vape at 60 watts, the mods i use are:
Voopoo Drag (various RDA's and Tanks)
Smok H-Priv 2 (usually running TFV8 Big Baby Beast)
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What strength should i make my regular eliquids (to have the same potency as the salts) when im regular vaping?
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Apologies for the poor wording, i hope you understand what i mean
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for 36mg, 6-9-12 more on the higher end, but freebase nic taste pretty bad at higher %
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I actually love the taste. Yum! I know objectively it probably tastes truly terrible though. I was trying to describe the taste of nicotine to someone who's never smoked (or vaped) recently and I couldn't--to me it tastes savory but I couldn't nail it down for her. I should probably stop making any fun of the people who love to eat stinky durian fruit though.
I don't fully understand what you mean, but I think there's some confusion. The concentration of nicotine IS the potency of your juice. If you want a freebase nice juice to be as potential as your 36mg nice salt, then you mix it to 36mg.
I imagine it would be hella harsh though.
Edit: if your goal is to make sure that you consume as much nic as you're used to with nic salts, note that when vaping freebase nicotine direct-to-lung you're consuming a lot more vapour than with mouth-to-lung. So you don't necessarily need to mix your freebase to a similar concentration as you're taking in more vapour
e.g. two puffs of 18mg nic should give you an equivalent dose to one puff of 36mg (roughly)
The concentration you mix to depends on how much you vape. Just mix what you think is right and adjust from there.
Sorry for the confusion, so I'm under the impression that, because I will be vaping at a much higher wattage then the pods, I will be consuming more nicotine per drag. ( bigger drags, more nicotine vaporizing) is this true?
You would be consuming more juice per drag, not nicotine. Think of freebase vaping like eating oranges for vitamin C, and nic salts like taking a supplement. You're getting the same intake of vitamins, but consuming more in terms of volume in the case of oranges.
You’re wrong though. If his normal vape juice is mixed to 36mg and he’s vaping it through a normal vape his is inhaling a way larger amount of nicotine than his POD systems. Same amount of mg/ml but the normal vape is giving him 5-7x more vapor which means 5-7x more nicotine.
Well, I sub-ohm 3mg freebase in my RDAs and put 25mg nic salts in a pod. The 25mg seems like I'm getting a little more nic, something like 18 would probably be closer to the same. So I think you'll probably want to make your e-liquids for your various RDAs at tanks around 6mg freebase, but you might have to do some experimenting to find your sweet spot, just like you did with the nic salts and pods.
It's pretty much the same for me. 24 mg nic salts in pods, 3 mg freebase in a sub-ohm tank, but the 3 mg feels a bit weaker. 6 mg freebase sounds like a good recommendation for OP, and the throat hit should be tolerable at that concentration.
6mg should work for OP but it might also depend on how he’s vaping. For example if I’m hitting the RDA subohm tank I’m taking long deep draws and savoring the flavor or chain vaping in the car. With a pod, it’s one or two quick toots to get me through the next 30 minutes to an hour of work or whatever social situation big clouds aren’t welcome at without breaking anything or killing anyone.
Yeah, that's one of the great things about DIY. I use a bunch of different vape setups, and I have juices ranging from 3 mg freebase to 24 mg nic salts on my table. If I get a new atomizer, I just open up a recipe file, adjust the nicotine, recalculate and mix. The last couple of weeks, I've been experimenting with combining salt nic and freebase.
Make a tester at 24, then cut it to make a 12.. see how those are. I haven't found a ton of difference between salts and regular in terms of potency (except I did make myself throw up when I first got salts, by overtesting, those smooth bastards got me, lol) The device does change things tho.
It sounds like we may use around the same nic; in pods or whatever low low power I'm around where you're at, but in my regular (still low power MTL but stick mods) I started at 24 and keep that around but also 12, 5, and 0. 12 is my daily at the moment but it goes up or down 24-0.
These are the calculators I use; you may not need one but if you do, I think one of the last 3 might be what you're looking for, maybe 3rd from bottom?
https://ecigvape.com/#e-liquid-calculators
Ok. So you plan to mix 36mg/ml source nicotine with no-nic juice, and think there's a way to obtain 36mg/ml result?
Does your process involve the Philosopher's Stone, perhaps? Do you have a perpetual motion device to agitate your mix? Frictionless graduated cylinders? A cold-fusion powered matter replicator?
And trying to vape 36mg/ml freebase would be exceptionally painful.
I think he or she is asking how to get the same Nicotine Satisfaction from freebase as from salts. And then I thought he or she was ALSO switching to a slightly higher powered mod, but I think I mizzundastood that part. But anyway, salts to reg, wasn't there mucho debate about how it "hit" when salts first came around? I stopped messing with salts because I can't taste them and I take in way too much trying to...feel it?, it doesn't register as fast or something, and I get sick. It's in my apocalypse nicotine reserve.
No one will be able to answer this for you as it is subjective. It depends on your battery, drag length, how hard you inhale, your airflow, your coil, etc. For reference my pod uses 25mg on a 350mah battery, and on my smok v8, I use 8mg with the 2000mah battery(.25ohm). With freebase nic you can't make it as strong, because the harshness will overpower the nic strength at a certain point. That said i only use freebase lol. You'll have to experiment and find out.
If you are doing 36mg and make your own juice try mixing up 8mg freebase. 8mg is not that bad on a subohm tank if you are doing nic salts in a pod but the throat hit from 8mg might knock you out with freebase because nic salts are really, really smooth. I hit a 35mg and it felt almost like 18mg freebase.
Here's a good way to approximate how much you're going to vape. First, figure out how much liquid you're vaping per session with your pod device. Multiply that by 36 and you get how much nicotine you're consuming.
Then do the same with one of your higher wattage device. Divide the total nicotine vaped by the pod by the amount of liquid you vaped in the higher wattage device to get the concentration for your liquid.
Actually measuring the amount vaped is going to be fairly challenging, though. The easiest way I can think is to put a known amount into the tank, vape for a bit, then use a blunt needle tip syringe to draw the remaining liquid out then subtract the starting amount by the ending amount.
Easier solution. Using a juice you have mixed and know the weight per ml of, fill tank. Weigh tank. Vape. Weigh tank when done. Change in weight is from vaping, so divide the difference by the density of the juice to get the volume. Then continue your process that you started with. Note this requires a refillable pod be used, as well.