Dear All,
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Explanation and Disclaimer: Mods, feel free to delete, amend, ridicule, chastise, admonish, support, applaud, ignore or otherwise. For the rest of you, this is my follow up to a post in the weekly discussion thread from a few weeks back. I've been intensely overwhelmed in m personal and professional life and it takes an exorbitant amount of time/energy to get anything done. excuse the post if you find it offense or uninteresting. Thank you.
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Let me begin by saying that I do so love this forum. Since Joining last year about this time, I have learned so much about mixing, flavors, and saved as much money juice as I've spent on new flavors. While there are many aspects to love -- the fact that everyone no matter your tastes, how kooky you are, if you are only into one profile, or even just here for shits and giggles -- there is a place for you and, frankly, you get your questions answered, even if not quite in the way you want them to. I rarely see a 'read the sidebar' comment here. Someone always seems to step up and help the new guy/gal get their footing and hope they find that pink cloud. I can definitely say that the raising of the restrictions on this sub has totally revitalized it from a library of information not exactly accessible to newbies, to a place where anyone can come and dip their toe in the water.
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I think we can all agree that there have been some unfortunate consequences along with these changes. I think we all know the series of weekly questions about why X company is slow?, do i really need a scale?, BEST?, can i make a vape juice out of an actual watermelon with coffee filters?, is a bit overwhelming at times.
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On a more positive note, other wonderful changes that I personally have seen have been from the addition of the discord channel which I hope someone will help this aging dinosaur by linking to in the comments. If not, check the weekly questions/discussion thread and you will find it at the bottom of the post. I know reddit has a chat which I personally rarely use as well. I prefer the format of the discord and find it easier to use on mobile. Either way, I've seen the bulky reddit format of post/discussion get livelier, more real time, and spontaneous. This has helped me by growing community, getting information fast, and not clogging up the forum with discussion of a more personal nature than straight mixing business. It also means great info is tucked away in hidden corners, unsearchable (not that ANYONE ever searches) and gone from the public eye.
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So, what's my point? Well, folks, here it is. Here's my community appeal. Good community posts are needed in my eyes. I don't think that 'good' necessarily means 'experienced'. As a member of a 12 step program for over 18 years, no one is more important than the 'new guy'. He reminds us that the world out there is as dangerous as we remember. He deserves the love and support to hold out a hand and pull him into the fold. Vaping is just as serious to me. At the end of the day, the hobby is great and I love new flavors, but I'm happy to not be smoking. That said, the old timers don't always relate to the new guys. Their problems are definitely not the same as the guy who just can't seem to put down the bottle. That's where the intermediates come in. The guys with a few 24 hours to a year who still remember what it was like to not even know that Noted, Mixin Vixens, Concrete_River, Fresh03, DIYorDIE etc even existed. I was that guy (and still am!). These are the gap bridgers.
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To that end, instead of asking for people to do a massive amount of work upfront, my idea is to have a rotation of people willing to lead a discussion with a kernel of mixing knowledge or a question they've tried to answer. If the community is behind it, they'll chip in and it will be something. If not, it'll fade into obscurity. u/juthinc made a good point about having a format to guide people. My suggestion is to write a question that you are answering. For example, How do you make a cream stone? To answer this, there could be several approaches.
- The Research - You have no experience with cream stones at all so you would search for 'cream stone' on reddit, find some recipes on atf/elr, link, mix and report back. Community can respond by making suggestions, edits, comments. Great, you're a proud sidebar reader! Everyone loves you.
- The Experience - You have experience with cream stones. You want to share your hard work on this topic. You'll tell what you were after and how you got there. What worked and what didn't. Community can chip in and suggest, edit, or ridicule my efforts if they include vanilla, mango or strawberry. Or, one flavor you want to go deep on. FotW what? You want too share with the world your white whale search for the perfect lychee/bourbon combo. You're a mad genius misunderstood by society.
- The Rabbit hole - You decided to go deep on florals. You bought 20 concentrates and you want to informally share the results of your tests. Maybe you found a cool way to use them. Maybe someone else has a comment to try it differently. Maybe no one gives a crap about your efforts. To heck with them, you're a champ. Pat yourself on the back.
- The PSA - Perhaps you are tired of fielding a question repeatedly, but realize there should be a source to direct someone to because you remember wondering the same thing once. Just because you were motivated enough to use the search function, doesn't mean the next guy will. And, to be fair, the search function sucks and you are a compassionate guy. So you are fielding one for the team. I promise to save it and link to it for any n00b that asks that question.
- The Shitpost - Everyone loves a good shit post. Life is hard and a decent chuckle every now and again never hurt. This one is never as funny as you think it will be, but who knows?
- The For Science - You want to vape rich cinnamon straight out of the flavor tester and warn us that it's not a good idea... we already know who you are. Maybe you want to experiment with "Does vaping a flavor at different temperatures actually make a difference in taste?", "What's a convenient way to two-stage mix?" etc.
I hope you get the idea. This is not meant to be work. It is meant to give some folks direction to share their knowledge in an organized way without too much stress. And, I'm tired of the low effort posts while having no time to take on something alone. Splitting the burden of the work on 8 volunteers would make it a once every two months endeavor. Even I can handle that frequency of output.
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If there is no support for this idea, I will follow up with my back burner idea that will entail me contacting you directly. I will tag some users in comments and make a suggestion based on what I'd personally love to hear you share on. If you think that idea sucks, my apologies. Do carry on.
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Respectfully,
isuamadog
Edit: if you want in, please just let me know. I tagged the five or so people I know who also already expressed an interest in this. If you want in just comment.
u/EdibleMalfunction please make your posts longer than 5 words. thank you :)
My responses are longer than 5 words when it's worth it.
u/alfredpudding a man on fire. you have a passion for mixing, collaborating and developing. there's so much there for you to work with, I wouldn't even dare to make a suggestion. I think you have a lot to give. You got this.
Hey thank you so much for tagging me! I noticed this post when you made it, but didn’t get to reading it until now. I am 100% with you on everything, and I would love to see more in-depth discussion from people with the knowledge to lead it. If there is ever a specific topic you would like me to cover, please let me know.
u/Apexified your faq friday series was the best thing every week for ages. I'm hoping to kind of make something similar with less need to have it all together, let people grow into the role of leading discussion, less keeping your mixing to yourself.
Thanks, bud. I am also hoping to make something similar... as in, I have more FAQ Fridays to finish but work is consuming my life and leaving me very little energy to get anything done these days.
I like your ideas and the people you've tagged are all great contributors. Maybe it's time for another post about the discord server to get more people involved in the conversations going on there, too.
That’s totally understandable. I love to see the community pick up the task of driving the effort. I think this looks like a solid plan to drive some content. Nothing beats working as a creative whole to support each other to be better.
I love the discord. I get to act stupid and connect and work on stuff that I like with immediate input from people.
u/eyemakepizza give us the fruits of your labor!
I am by no means on the level of expertise that most of these folks are, but I would be more than happy to try and pitch in with something...probably about fruits haha!
Thinks sounds like a really cool concept.
Humility means being right sized. We all have something to give. Some more than others!
Ps I’m really enjoying this know it all attitude I’ve adopted.
Edit 2: sorry for the wall of text, TL;DR on the bottom.
I'm gonna give you my honest opinion. I used to frequent this sub a lot a year or two ago. I was here when Rhondite became huge and who can forget Bronuts??? Anyway, I am not sure if it's still the same, but this sub had this elitist PoV where the only thing newbies could do was read this enormous monstrosity of information with words that someone first getting into vaping had no idea about. Any questions people had, the answer was "read the sidebar". Not everyone was an asshole but the majority of the people who ran it were.
It was this elitist view and the way it was portrayed in the sub that really turned me off from this sub. I rarely ever come here anymore.
It's like, if you didn't read ALL of the sidebar where your question might be answered, then you were just lazy. And if you tried to call them out on it, most of the time they would go after you for not contributing enough to the sub like if you wanted to be part of this community, you had to know your shit inside out and did things their way.
Honestly I came here to check out the recipes and stuff people were coming up with and it encouraged me to actually start experimenting, but if I had any questions, at that time, it felt like I was discouraged to ask because the answer was probably gonna be "read the sidebar you lazy bum".
I remember when I first started, I hated that sidebar, it was so disorganized and it wasn't really newbie friendly. Like the average DIYer could probably figure out our but the new guy had no chance. So I resorted to just looking at the clone recipes and following those.
I felt the community just wasn't welcoming to people unless you were willing to dedicate yourself to it like the community has, and maybe I would have done that has I felt like it was a welcoming community.
This post just popped up on my hot feed cause I do still sub here but god I don't even remember the last time I was in this sub. I really hope things have changed for the better.
Edit: One last thing, I hate the monthly recipe thread. I feel that it's hard to have conversations with people about your recipes and you are forced to publish your recipe on this thread that gives you no notifications and I felt like it really discouraged good discussions... I always wondered why not have a monthly flavor reviews thread too where people would just do their reviews in a monthly thread. Or have a monthly newbie question thread while we are at it.
When I think DIY_ejuice, I think of two things, flavorings and recipes. Everything else comes down to how and where. The how and where part don't really change. How to mix properly, and where to buy. But the flavors and recipes always change. It sucks that they took one of those two things and confined it in a thread that just gets archived every month. Especially with the crappy search functions of reddit. I was against that decision to move the recipes to a thread since the beginning and I still am. But hey, why does my opinion matter, I haven't been active in this community for years now, why should what I say have any weight behind it. You know what I mean??
And if anyone had doubts, just read the top 5 posts under controversial tab. You'll see what I was talking about.
TL;DR: used to be a regular 2 to 3 years ago, the attitude of the elites that were running this sub really discouraged me from wanting to even become a part of it. Many of us didn't even want to post for fear of the "Read the sidebar" police or the posting in the wrong thread cause for some reason this is the only community on reddit who had to have control over every aspect of your post.
You should stick around a bit and take a look; the rules were relaxed a few months ago and the sub is very welcoming.
I got that feel from this post. I was genuinely surprised at a lot of the things I read here. I'll definitely be a bit more active. Glad to see things are getting more relaxed. Out of all hobbies, this is the one I genuinely enjoy just for the fact that there is so much we can do and so many different tastes :). Thanks for the reply and for taking the time to read all that.
The sub has evolved a lot since 2015. You just happened to jump back on after we had a particularly terrible week of shit posts that seemed to put a lot of people in a bad mood. But if you resist the urge to sort by controversial and instead scroll for a min or two (or check out the posts I highlight every week in the discussion thread) you'd have a much better idea of what's going on these days.
Not sure why you hate the recipe thread because it doesn't give you notifications... it does. The same way you get notifications for a post, you get notified when someone comments on your recipe in the thread. And using the recipe thread is only mandatory in the sense that making a post about a recipe you want to discuss should include things to discuss i.e. the rule about writing development notes and not just posting the percentages with the comment "It's good, you should try it!"
> Or have a monthly newbie question thread while we are at it.
There's been a New Mixers Thread posted every week going back to 2014.
> It sucks that they took one of those two things and confined it in a thread that just gets archived every month. Especially with the crappy search functions of reddit.
You can find 5+ years of recipes here and you can also use reddits crappy search to find recipes that have the recipe flair.
Not really sure why you feel confined by the recipe thread. It gets significantly more views than any single recipe post ever has, which means that when someone posts a recipe there with or without notes, it gets far more attention than it would as its own post. I appreciate you expressing your opinion but clearly I think the monthly recipe threads are awesome. I might be a bit biased but I've also thought that since they started.
I didn't think about it that way. I guess for me it was the fact that the recipe thread was there and getting archived every month, it felt like the recipes themselves weren't getting as much attention and I'm sure the majority of the views come from people who have posed or commented going back and checking up on it.
To tell you the truth, I wanted recipes to be just like flavor reviews where we should have had a set standard of what people should include. I enjoyed having recipes and flavor reviews out in the open where they pop up on the feeds of subscribers and what not. Having the confined in a sticky just removed them from any outside exposure. Only the people who were here and regularly visiting the sub could see them and that is only if they were looking for recipes.
I'm sure it's different for everyone else, but for me, the only time I would go to it back then was if I needed a new recipe or was low on flavors and I was trying to find recipes with those flavors in it. Even then it was a pain to go from thread to thread to thread trying to comb through it all. At least as a standalone post, I felt it was easier to use the search.
Plus I felt that it generated more discussions about those recipes and actually had people goofing around with them more than just commenting "ooo I'll try this".
Not really understanding what you mean by "archived every month" unless you mean a new recipe thread takes its place as a sticky (Reddit archives all posts after 6 months) but if that is what you mean then recipe posts get "archived" or pushed off the front page every few days even if they're popular posts, not to mention how quickly the less interesting ones disappear.
A format for recipes posts is an interesting idea. Most of them tend to have a similar format already but having a template available would probably be helpful to new people in guiding them through the notes that would make the development of their recipe more interesting to people. Then the problem becomes how to expose people to that template, say if it were in the sidebar ;)
+1 for more well annotated recipes in their own posts. Among other advantages, seeing the recipe name right in the title when searching and being able to sort recipes by best or trending appeal to the way I would like to use the subreddit. I feel like I might miss some of the monthly recipes that would interest me.
I’ve only been mixing for a few months (but avidly!), but that’s something I’d like to see more of.
I think u/Apexified and you have already hashed this out a bit and it seems like a fruitful discussion. I haven’t been here or mixing (let alone seriously mixing) for that long. Maybe 6 months of taking it seriously? Anyway that said, I haven’t seen a ‘read the sidebar’ comment in ages. Most people who would have said that, comment a condensed version of the sidebar into a short reply that covers people’s needs at the moment knowing that they can read the sidebar for more info. Someone usually chimes in later with the link. It’s sort of a team effort in my experience. Most folks aren’t dropping in for the first time and reading for months like I did.
The truth is that it is do it yourself. By definition the idea is: figure it out. It makes for a strange standard. By virtue of what everyone does here (namely, figure out what the fuck they like and how to make flavors do that), it seems reasonable to tell even the noobiest of newcomers to go figure it out as a serious answer. And as a helpful answer, in fact. Maybe a hint of guidance.
I still don’t have an answer as to which lemon will last in my crazy ‘corona lite smoke with a lemon lime twist’ will work. But I bought a bunch based on recommended possibilities and looked at what had been done before by mixers on atf only to find most people don’t mix lemon with tobaccos simply because they don’t usually survive the long steep times. I shelved it (temporarily) because I don’t have the time to work on it right now. But I also didn’t expect anyone to have the answer. Yet, posters here did sort of point me in the right direction of what to try.
I don’t know, the internet is a funny place. People get weird and take stuff personally. I think there’s room for people to let their egos get the better of them. That could lead to an elitist or circle jerky mentality. I recently had my watermelon stash called ‘potatoes’ by a fellow mixer. That shit has me laughing still. Man, concentrates cost money and I’ve shelled plenty to keep up. But I do it. Because I actually love vaping ‘good’ vapes (shit I like) so I said, tell me what to get. I could easily have gotten upset or irritated and saw it as elitist or at least inconsiderate. But then I’d be missing some points. 1) that dude was helping me accomplish my own goal of making a fucking awesome watermelon mix. 2) that dude was taking his own time and hard earned diy knowledge to help me out. 3) he’s a fucking good mixer and I trust his opinion on flavors 4) I want a fucking damn good watermelon vape without having to buy 90 watermelons first to figure it out myself.
The fact remains that people are who they are. I am who I want to be. I like it here. And I’m going to share what I know for anyone who knows less than I do. I think there’s loads here who do the same and also happen to be funny as shit while doing it. I hope you stay and share what you know with me/us.
Teampositivity always wins in the end. :)
Edit 1: this post has close to 2,000 views with a 32+ upvote rating. That tells me there’s a ton of lurkers who don’t want to participate. That’s all. I hope they enjoy reading whatever comes of this. I really hope someone is inspired to chime in and share what they know or have learned so the rest of us can keep inspired or just try something new.
You are absolutely correct. There is always something to take away from each situation and I have to tell you, I'm pleasantly surprised that this sub has matured and grown out of that mentality. It genuinely makes me happy to see people actually embracing changes that could better this community. And not just changes a few of the old timers want but changes with actual community input. I have this dark feeling my wallet isn't going to be too happy I'm jumping back in this game hahaha.
I've been vaping the same old stuff for too long now... Im almost out of my 5th gallon of vg.... Time to hit up essential depot followed by nic river... Sigh, I love you guys.
Edit: just had a thought about the "read the sidebar" thing... I understand that people have to figure things out especially with something like this since taste is subjective and everyone likes something different. The only thing I wished people did was when we did have newbies, instead of just saying read the sidebar, take a minute and atleast narrow it down for the poor fella who has to jump in head first into the stack of hay looking for his needle. But I've been going around the sub and I'm loving the positivity!!
Well I’m glad to hear that my impression fits yours. I mean it’s hard not to wtf some people when you read some stuff about what misconceptions abound. But that’s what we’re all here for, I hope, to help the new guy and to get better while doing it. At the end of the day, it matters when you put so much hard work into learning a craft like mixing. It matters because it’s fucking art on your tongue you’re after. A goddamned painting you can lick. That’s pretty fucking awesome. So yeah it’s a bit passionate or opinionated at times.
Save your money and don’t talk to alfredpudding or mLnikon. And don’t ever watch noted. Or concrete_river. Or the what are you vaping thread. Damn that’s a good one.
u/vApe_escape, u/MasterBeernuts I know we discussed this briefly a few weeks back. Both have loads to add to the community (also who knows what you're working on in your secret labs)
>Vaping is just as serious to me. At the end of the day, the hobby is great and I love new flavors, but I'm happy to not be smoking.
This is it mate - I'm right with you. Imagine all the people this sub has helped over the years! Always happy to answer questions and give a bit of advice if i can.
> As a member of a 12 step program for over 18 years, no one is more important than the 'new guy'.
Truth.
Ah... But since none has more than a twenty four (and the person with the most time is the one who's been awake longest) really everyone is equally important. Although whoever is most troubled probably gets the edge.
u/CultureViolet 6 months mixing is more than enough time. would love to hear your thoughts.
I am generally digging all of the vibes being thrown around this thread. It's refreshing to clear the air so to speak and/or brainstorm every once in awhile. These are all great ideas, especially, you and u/juthinc 's total-shite tuesday (TST) and u/theonlymomo 's recipe template idea. Could alternate TST and PTT (Profile Tip Tuesday), or whatever it ends up being as well.
Maybe making recipes more "standardized" for lack of a better term (there could also be more than 1 template e.g. how serious the poster is taking it, or by just exactly how much effort went into the recipe and assigned a signifier of sorts) would make it easier to search them and compile quickly actionable links for specific stones as well.
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The thing about any kind of template to me is that it’s a mixed bag. It helps those who need a guide or don’t want to have to invent the wheel. It also hinders someone whose ideas are outside the box or just wants to do it their way, which really is the whole point of diy. In the end, it’s better to have a template than to not because that gives people options. What I learned from the few contests I’d seen lately, the beginner reviews during the summer and the diy price breakdown is that beginners who tried to follow the format did a great job but still spun it their way and that intermediates sort of could articulate their own vision for how they understood a concept.
I’m not good with that stuff. I prefer a more narrative type style myself. My favorite post in recent memory was the recipe post that the OP talked about what didn’t work and berated the reader the whole time. I loved that one. But I’m an asshat.
Honestly as for standardization, all I was thinking of was to treat the recipe like a flavor review... Start by a brief history of why the person chose to follow this recipe. Maybe what they tried and what they didn't, then the recipe,and last but not least a profile breakdown of how it is supposed to taste like.
And it could even go on from there and maybe even ask for help from others with where they want to take the recipe.
I think somewhere in there would be a description of the mod setup. I think this will also help new DIYers actually get a good grasp of what goes into creating a recipe and what to aim for as well as gives the authors plenty of room to work around the box. Of course, the one thing I can't stand in ANY recipe post is the lack of details of what it is aiming for or what the profiles of the different flavors mixed in are. It's like I have to use my imagination and try to combine tpa dragon fruit with cap marshmallow followed by a flavor I've never tasted... Yea that's gonna be a downvote for me dawg....
Or those posts that try to use exquisite language to try to enhance the profile of how the flavor so delicately plays upon the tongue as the different flavors come forth to create a heavenly taste that entice the senses and bring forth a new discovery that god himself would come down to earth and try..... Yes.. Again, that's a downvote for me dawg...
I remember those reviews and the price breakdowns, great example! I think it could only bolster and buoy an already existing enthusiasm in the craft, and be completely optional, yet still encourage newbs/novices like myself to post recipes they have in development and know they aren't going to get shit on by the mods (due to lack of due dilligence) and/or the OTs/generally grumpy people(for being an easy target).
And I dont think that those truly creative among us will be hindered by it. I get what you mean though. I think u/AlfredPudding 's recipes are a great example of a casual yet professional approach. All of these things come across in his recipe posts rather easily, maybe a consultation is in order.
What are you thoughts u/AlfredPudding? Is a template a dogshit idea?
u/Couldntremembermyacc don't know you very well, so show us what you got!
Thanks for the shout out. I honestly am more of a lurker on this sub than a contributor, but I think that's my nervousness to post. I can attribute everything I have done mixing to this sub, and been subscribed for a little over a year now. Will start contributing more to recipe posts and general question and answers!
u/OdieDoodah you are the research and table master. What does your brain do with all that knowledge?
I like your enthusiasm - count me in. I don't know all the answers - but I know a lot of good places to look for the answers! I've got a few ideas brewing in the background.
One thing your idea needs is some sort of tag to mark the discussions and make them easier to find when searching for them. It could be specific wording in the title or some new flair. It should be something unique - not a common term or phrase of the DIY world. That means when you search for them - the list isn't cluttered with random links. My suggestion . . . call them Helping Hands. It seems to be in the spirit if what you're after.
I was gonna say something lame like Monday mixer’s thread! But yes, you’re totally right.
> Monday mixer’s thread
So you're thinking of a weekly type of thing? It might be better to just post "whenever" you're ready. Deadlines motivate people to get things done - but they can also rush you to putting in half-assed effort just to get it done ON TIME.
If we can wrangle 15 people into committing to posting once per season (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter) there'd be 60 per year - a little more than once per week.
u/ID10-T care to do a small write up on your experience running mixer's club? shouldn't be too taxing, something simple/easy. you've got enough shit going on.
Shit, this reminded me that I forgot to post the Throwback Thursday post this week. Too busy wallowing in the misery of a mild illness that’s robbed me of my ability to taste my vapes.
Yeah, when I get better and get a chance I’ll check and see how long it’s been since the last time I did that and if it’s time to do it again.
So, you don’t think there’s enough quality content? I think the flavor of the weeks have suffered and idk why? All the new available info is a definite plus but I do miss the the more involved, lengthy fow’s. Besides that, I guess throwback Thur and Faq Friday’s is it? I think for only joining us about a year ago your mixing skills are great and you could teach a thing or two...;)
I don’t think there’s as much as could be. I’ve really enjoyed the discord discussions with Emily Alfred eyemakepizza foment edible ncdulo and a bunch others I’m forgetting now. Made me think all these people with knowledge are fielding questions instead of leading discussion. Someone might be an expert in some small or large thing. We should be sharing it in some small way. Not just leaving it up to monthly threads.
u/AnxietyAttack2013 read this and see what you think. I know you’re into mixing again and we could always use some teampositivity. Look around and see what you think. As a fellow mtl diyer, it’s be nice to hear swap notes.
Hey my dude! I’m so down and on board with this! I think the idea of a different discussion lead by a different member of the community is a great way to not only help people come out of their shells who otherwise might stay hidden, but also brings quality content to the forefront.
So I’m a very on again/off again DIYer. I’ve mixed recreationally and professionally. But I guess it’s time to do at least a one shot introduction for people who are interested in just getting started at least haha. A sorta “so you’re interested in DIY eliquid” type thing haha
u/juthinc I'd love for you to do a real thorough exploration of florals but I know the noted gals/guys are hitting that in FotW soon. i also know you and I have talked about following up on profiles and getting into different specific building blocks. I could also see you rabbit holing liquors. You're suggestions for me have been spot on.
Wow. First one mentioned, even. Kinda shocking, really. I don't tend to think of myself as a true expert in many areas, as I tend to look at the greats like /u/hocuskrokus (florals minor deity) and /u/chemicalburnvictim (needs no explanation) and think they're the real experts. However, I do have the odd insight. Beverage profiles, I'd think, would probably be where my knowledge is most concentrated, although cross-profile mashups (fruit and floral, mostly... Others are better at the tobacoo-dessert,. Whatever-dairy, tobacco-dairy, and such) is also possible. I've come across some info lately that makes me realize there's florals I need that I don't have... Midieval beers used to use a mix of florals including dandelion and burdock (a flavor I don't have) along with horehound and a couple others in place of hops. (Before hops was realized to be an effective preservative in beer.) So I'm curious to try and recreate one of those...
I've been planning a florals primer for awhile now, but I keep getting stymied by the rest of the world. After Vegas I only have one more contract to fulfill then I should hopefully have some more breathing room. There's an older one floating around though it's in need of updating. Edit: You can get Dandelion and Burdock direct from Decadent Vapors, or Chef's has some in their Yummy range. Both are good choices though I like the Decadent Vapor version better. If you're going to vegas next weekend holler at me before Monday night and I'll bottle up a sample run for you.
Well, we’d been talking about it for a while behind the scenes. And I know you have a lot to give. I think it’d be great if you shared your insights.
I'll put some thought into what I can contribute. Maybe if we make up a schedule for one post a week? Monday's have their post of the week, as do Thursday and Friday. Maybe Total Shite Tuesdays? That'd probably be appropriate for me to lead off.... (Profile Tip Tuesday otherwise, maybe?) I could probably have something ready to go for this week if you want.
I’m sorry but I have no idea what you’re asking or I can’t wrap my head around it for some reason, can you explain it in a readers digest version plz...;) if possible
I'm asking you to read my post. Or if you want the ELI5 version, I'm asking folks who have something to share to step up a little and the rest of us to shoulder the burden of making the sub interesting.
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think about what you have to offer and offer it.
I did read it...but now after you put it like that I understand thank you...;)
i prefer the toyota way to 12 step fwiw
I take it however i can get it. Interesting stuff though. I think here we are so individualized by nature of the content (flavor is subjective) better to decentralize. I am no authority on anything. I just want to steal other people's ideas and claim them as my own.
i go for the magpie approach - take whats shiny to you, leave the rest. build your nest. become phoenix. one day, when the nest is right? you'll be a star again ;)
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thats at least the concise version of the methodology i am stealing.
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because almost everythings been done before, so steal from the best - be it art, spirituality, or recipes.
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my TOP seller? it was a local house juice that i just added custard to, after being ignored for months saying they should.
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take whats shiny. leave the rest.
Honestly i think we are ok with the exception of obvious shit posts staying up for a while.
Your idea is great but i would guess most people are already doing their best to help out others.
Report the shit posts!
I reported a few a while ago, but i'm just not that active anymore with little time left, soon i'll get back to being more active and i will haha
I agree that people are helping like crazy. My idea is to move from helping others to leading discussions. I think we’d have some interesting weekly discussions this way rather than advising out of obligation to keep someone from huffing 1,000mg nic.
Thank you all for your generosity with your time. Although I'm not a new mixer, I still feel awed when I see the depth of knowledge that so many on here have. Thank you all for helping make the DIY path so much easier and enjoyable