Test your flavors. Seriously. I know it can be intimidating seeing all the thorough flavor notes that must have taken hours to compile (Thank you concreteriver) , but even taking the time to test flavors once when I shake them up and again when I come across some free time the next week has helped me IMMENSELY. Even writing down simple fast notes like “this is good. Very sweet. Thick” or “ I don’t like this at all. Tastes like plastic” has saved me a lot of headaches and will continue to do so.
Also smelling concentrates is deceiving. Example: ethyl maltol- smells like cotton candy tastes like DEATH LIQUID.
Take the time to try your single flavors and don’t overcomplicate it, it’ll be worth your while. :)
How do you typically do this? Drip into an RDA? Make a single-flavor juice?
> How do you typically do this?
This is on the front page still...
I just looked up reviews of particular flavors and then noted the concentration they were used in and if they were expected to be primary or secondary flavors in the recipe. And then I made loads of god awful mixes. Eventually, things started to work out.
I can't wick my own coils to save my life, so I'd just make 5ml batches. If it was just okay, I'd use it. If it was terrible, I'd dump it and start changing percentages around.
The best thing to do, in my opinion, is choose flavors you think you'd like, then mix them together based on other similar recipes using the same flavors. Testing one flavor at a time is great, but it's tedious, and you won't know how things mix until you mix them.
Knuckle test and you can put some in whip cream also to taste. To get in the zone while mixing up your 5-10ml batches you must have Noted or Concrete River on youtube in the background.
Apex's amazing Noted's spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iFhGd1zL94q6gSsIYcxfGXkj_M6J9gaR-Ne3tYTbqCM/edit#gid=0
the way i see mixing, it is kind of like, you buy your homebrewing kit, to brew beer. You do everything by the book at home but your beer is never going to be like one in the shops....and you love it because it is the beer that you brew yourself.
i think that vendors when they repackage the concentrates somehow mess it up...not all of them but some..and that is how you get the shit conc. and it is to much hussle to return it.
Interesting, I’m the other way around. I can’t really vape “commercial” juices anymore.
Right I crush shop juice with DIY. I may not be the best but i'm better than a lot lol
Premium apple juice? 10% Fuji 5% Supersweet, sell for 1 dollar /ml
Have you ever seen the recipes that vendors use? I'm guessing you haven't or you'd realize that you're wrong. Mixing eJuice is not at all comparable to brewing beer or even cooking, where having the same ingredients is only one of many variables. With eJuice you have very few variables beyond the ingredients going into the bottle.
Not really sure how it’s wrong to compare mixing ejuice to cooking Apexified? It’s sooo much like cooking silly. From creating to following recipes I’m not sure why you could argue otherwise. I must be missing something...so what’s new 😂😩....;)
I'm referring the the act of mixing, not the process of being creative. With ejuice, if you have the recipe, you can easily create the same product that a great vendor is producing--just by putting the same ingredients in the bottle. On the other hand if you have a great chefs recipe, you're unlikely to be able to reproduce their dish without acquiring some skills in a kitchen. Think about the variables involved in cooking from time and temperature to the pan you use or the way you chop/dice up an ingredient, et cetera...
The beer we have at home is far better, not because we brewed it, but because osmotic pressure and a whole bunch of other issues become a problem at 10KL+ (yeast doesn't like 10T of water on top of them)..
That being said, your point isn't wrong.. Just the analogy has some flaws..
(Also, our brewery - https://www.reddit.com/r/Skookum/comments/9ngf80/if_were_doing_home_brew/ )
ah..when i mentioned homebrew beer i had in mind some kits that were sold in our supemarkets...some years ago, with a barel and some basic ingredients, tottaly forgetting that homebrewing has gone far ahead from those days.
a better analogy would be homemade bread, same ingredients flour, yeast, salt, water the rest is just personal skill, owen, etc etc
Homebrew CAN be better... But usually it isn't. Some of the best beer I've had has come out of someone's basement or garage... Some of the worst as well.
Osmotic pressure is an issue to be sure, but it can be worked around to a certain extent. Honestly, a lot of process problems pro brewers deal with aren't as big an issue on a smaller scale.