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Making premix of my recipes.
submitted almost 7 years ago by bassiks

Hey guys,
Apologies if this question is answered somewhere obvious, I searched the subreddit and couldn't find anything and google searches just returned information about how to use premixed concentrates.

Basically i would like to make up bottles of my recipes as premix so that instead of having to mix them with individual ingredients i can just use a percentage of premix.

How would i go about doing this?

Firstly, Say i have a recipe that uses, three ingredients at 10%, 4% and 2% and wanted to make 60ml of premix how do i calculate this to make it up?

And secondly. How would i work out how what percentage i would use of that premix to have the same amount of flavouring?

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Maths is not my strong point so i am struggling to figure out how to do this on my own.
It may be completely obvious but i can't wrap my head around it.

Thanks.

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by sadistic_tendenciesalmost 7 years ago

All The Flavors allows to you calculate this. For percentage using your example, 10+4+2= 16%.

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by bigbirdtoejamalmost 7 years ago

You can easily do this on alltheflavors.com and e-liquid-recipes.com. On ATF, find or create a recipe, and click the mix button, and check the "Mix as flavor base" checkbox. On ELR, find or create a recipe, click the wrench icon, and then click "Make one-shot / flavor concentrate".

The math is pretty easy if you want to do it manually too. You have a total of 16% flavoring, so just divide each of the percentages by 16 to get the percentage for your concentrate. Multiply the one-shot percentage by the number of ML of one-shot you want to mix, and you have the number of ML for each flavor.

||Mix percentage|One-shot percentage|Amount for 60 ML| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Flavor1|10%|10 / 16 = 62.5%|0.625 * 60 = 37.5ml| |Flavor2|4%|4 / 16 = 25%|0.25 * 60 = 15ml| |Flavor3|2%|2 / 16 = 12.5%|0.125 * 60 = 7.5ml|

If you are not using specific weights for your flavors like most people, that number is also the weight.

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by garamasalaalmost 7 years ago

Damn, I wish I had a better education. That all makes sense but would take me a million years to figure out.

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by juthincalmost 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

It's pretty simple math....

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by garamasalaalmost 7 years ago

Exactly

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by sirjackmalleyalmost 7 years ago

Put your recipe in http://e-liquid-recipes.com. once you're on the page for your recipe, click the blue settings icon. The very first drop down result will be "create one-shot/concentration". Once you do that it will give you a calculator.

Here's an example of that. Picture the desired mixing percentage don't touch. That is the same as total flavor percentage for each recipe.

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by padishar123almost 7 years ago

To add to the above discussion:

When I mix a new flavor I only make a single small bottle. I’ve noticed that some flavors start out great but don’t last. By the time I finish 30 ml I know if I’d make it again.

For the short list of repeats I frequently mix a larger flavor base bottle. Usually enough to make 150-300 ml of finished product. I just use glass Boston round bottles with a flat cap. Depending on how much percentage the mix calls for, 30 ml of flavor base can make a lot or a little.

I also date the flavor base bottle for easy record keeping.

1 points
 
by Binsky89almost 7 years ago

I use this juice calculator which is awesome. It lets you create flavor bases and do a million other things with your recipes.

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by juthincalmost 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

You left out the link to ATF

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by Binsky89almost 7 years ago

Added the link, but it's not ATF.

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by juthincalmost 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Should've been.

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by imagineightalmost 7 years ago

I didn't see anyone write the simple answer.

On ATF, go to the recipe you want to make and click mix. There is a checkbox for Mix as Flavor Base. Enter the MLs you want to make as a flavor base. On the bottom it'll tell you use 10% for example.

Create a new recipe and enter whatever as a flavor at 10%(This will be your flavor base%). All you'd need to do is put your nic base, pg,vg, and the % of your flavor base and your juice is made. It took me a while to start doing this as well but saves you an infinite amount of time.

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by slumberlandalmost 7 years ago

compromises. The simplest thing to do is assume that all flavorings weigh the same. This is a lie. Or do accurate volumetric measurements, or like... have the specific gravity of everything (a pain in the dick)

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what i usually did was make a small batch at the (falsely assumed weight) and then if i upscaled (say from 30ml of flavor base to a gallon to 2.5 gallons) the difference in weights out spread, and i would have to make minor corrections - those bumps only occured when production batch changed?

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but essentially my personal calculator lets you.. break out the flavorings seperately by assumed weight, and you can 'change' the batch size of the flavoring - the final calculator only spits out 'percentage of flavor base' 'percentage of vg without nic' 'percetange of pg that isn't flavor' and 'vg with nic' - i wanted a very flexible system.

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 7 years agoMixologist

That seems unnecessarily complicated

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by slumberlandalmost 7 years ago

meh, it was generated to resolve 100+ skus in bulk production, not DIY

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shrug

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by slumberlandalmost 7 years ago

this was also before ANY of the online sheets let you mix by weight :p

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