Hi I've been trying to find some info on this for some time, I've seen it talked about briefly a few times in this subreddit.
Can you pull your nicotine out of the freezer, immediately pipette the amount needed into my mixing bottle, and then return the nicotine to the freezer?
I just have no idea if you have to let the nicotine thaw out, or at least get to room temperature before adding it to a mix. It would seem detrimental to the nic to have to let it sit out overnight to thaw, or to leave any amount of nic out of the freezer for an extended period of time.
It would be much more convenient to just be able to pull your bottle out of the freezer for 10 minutes just to take the amount you need, followed by quickly returning the bottle to the freezer.
Transfer nicotine you need for near future use into a small amber glass bottle. That way you aren't pulling you freezer nic out every time you mix
This is the way to do it, divide your big bottle into small ones and pull out as needed. Leave as little air in your small bottles as possible.
Additionally, I've heard opening cold bottles of nicotine is a great way to ruin it. VG is hygroscopic and loves absorbing water at air temperature. With cold temperatures and condensation it could end up very watery which will ruin your mixes. Let your small bottle warm up to room temperature before actually opening it.
I have my nic divided into all 1 oz amber glass bottles. So would it be alright if I just pulled the small bottle currently in use out of the freezer whenever I need it in a mix?
Or should I plan ahead and pull the small nic bottle currently in use out of the freezer and let it sit for a period of time before mixing?
Also I always use PG nic from CXtract
Just to add bc I haven't seen it mentioned, vg in the freezer will have a different density than vg at room temperature. This won't have much of an effect on vg/pg ratios but you will be adding slightly more nic than you would if the nic solution is at room temperature before you start mixing.
I keep a small "working" bottle in the fridge, and pull it out about 15-20 minutes before I start mixing. This is just so I can shake it really well (VG nic).
I tend to keep my 60 ml bottles in the freezer, and pull one out while I'm setting up/writing down what I'll be mixing. That whole process ends up taking 20-30 minutes anyway and gives the nic time to warm up. I also use VG nic, and that stuff is thick cold!
For what it's worth I find it way easier to separate mixing flavors and adding nic. That way I don't have to do all my mixing at a dedicated workstation that's safe for nic handling (which means I can mix while doing something else like watching TV). Once I have several bottles mixed and steeping (which might happen over the course of a week or two) I'll add nic to all of them at once which goes pretty quick.
After taking out of freezer, leave it sealed until the bottle stops sweating. Condensation stays on the outside of the bottle. If opened the condensation will happen inside the bottle and make your nic watery. If you’re in a hurry, shake often and wipe off the bottle until the sweating stops completely.
I store my nicotine in the freezer, so can share a few thoughts. First, the nicotine solution (VG, or PG based) will not freeze at the temperatures found in a food freezer, and therefore does not need to thaw.
With that said, the viscosity will be higher at colder temperatures making shaking, or dispensing more difficult. For this reason, I typically just keep about 20ml at a time in a dark cabinet, and keep the rest in the freezer.
So you shake it before pouring the 20ml?
Correct. Once the small bottle is almost gone I pull the large bottle out of the freezer and let it warm up for about 10 to 20 minutes and shake it before dispensing. I don't test the strength of my nicotine so I can't tell you if my routine adequately disperses the nicotine through the mixture, but it does provide consistent taste, throat hit, and satisfaction throughout the life of the bottle.
.... I'm supposed to keep it in the freezer? .... -_-
Yes. Otherwise it will oxidise quite readily.
Unless you live somewhere very cold (and don't warm the room it's stored in)
Well that explains why my juice always turns dark brown. Guess I need to order some new nic and keep it in the freezer. Can't believe this is the first time I have heard of this.
Yeah I too have learned the hard way how fragile of a molecule nicotine is.
Not only do you have to keep it in the freezer, you have to transfer it to multiple smaller amber bottles with phenolic (not dropper) caps, and fill them all the way to the very top to prevent oxidization. This way you never expose your entire nic supply to oxygen all at once, but rather expose smaller portions one bottle at a time until it's gone.
You will soon see how much your nicotine storage affects everything about your juice. I'd even argue that the way you store your nic will make or break the quality of your juice.
How about refrigerator? Something about 5 Celsius?
If it's VG based good luck with 'shaking' and 'pouring' :D
nah CXtract PG all day!
Should I still freeze CarolinaXtract in multiple smaller bottles in the freezer with one small bottle out for consistent use? I was thinking of leaving the working bottle in the fridge but it sounds like that would contribute to condensation also. So is it best to just have it in a cabinet or something?
When I mix, the first things that go into the bottles are PG, flavorings, and nicotine. I then agitate the bottles to mix these together. The latent heat of the PG and flavors are more than enough to compensate for any difference in viscosity in the Nic solution coming out of the fridge or freezer. Agitation mixes the nic into the the PG and flavor base, to disperse it thoroughly so that when I add VG, there is little to no change of there being nicotine hot spots.
Wait we're putting the nicotine in the freezer?
I buy the 100mg strength PG base nic, and split it into 30ml bottles after shaking it up really well. Make sure the cap is on snug, then put 3 or 4 of the 30ml bottles in zip loc baggies just in case.
I just grab a bottle, let it sit at room temp for about 30 minites before mixing. Shake well after it has warmed and use it as needed.
I have not had any nic go bad this way.
I keep a 120 at my mixing station.When i take nic out of the freezer i do it at least a day before i use it.Think ahead and stay out of trouble.
I to would like to see some one try to mix with ice cold VG.It would be like mixing with jelly.