Hello everyone,
I know that I just shared my pudding recipe, and you're probably tired of hearing from me, but this one is something that I'm very excited about.
|Flavor|Percentage| |:-|:-| |FW - Blood Orange|0.4%| |FA - Bourbon (Vanilla)|0.4%| |VT - Fizzy Sherbet|3.5%| |FLV - Rich Cinnamon|0.07%| |CAP - Super Sweet |0.25%| |WS-23|0.5%|
For October's Mixers' Club prompt, I was tasked with revisiting my biggest failure of a recipe and making it work. When I first started mixing, I wanted to create a cola recipe without using any cola flavorings. From what I had gathered they were all pretty lackluster, and I wanted to solve a problem many people were facing. It was a tremendous error in judgement, and I wanted to abandon it completely. If u/ConcreteRiver didn't make this eloquent challenge, and u/ID10-T didn't make his decision to conquer his fear, I wouldn't have accomplished a major goal and brought this to life.
Normally I would put a lot of development notes here, and explain why I made the decisions that ended up in the recipe, but I'm not going to do that with this one. I want you to mix it up if you're interested in an awesome cola recipe, and know that I put a lot of effort into it. Another part of the prompt was to explain what I'm doing differently now, which I think could benefit many people. The first major difference in my mixing was brought about by Jennifer Jarvis. I knew early on that she utilized smell quite a bit, but I didn't understand how important it was. I stopped making recipes with percentages and suggestions, and just started following my nose like Toucan Sam. I would try to elaborate, but I wouldn't do it justice. Just go find Jennifer Jarvis and she'll give you some amazing pointers.
Another major difference in my style is the application of vast amounts of information I have gathered. There are so many incredible resources on YouTube, Reddit, and Discord that have made my experience truly awesome. People that are willing to answer any question you can conjure, give suggestions on ways to make an idea work, and provide inspiration for creative new recipes. I'm very thankful for all of them, and I look forward to coming up with countless things for you to try.
Interesting but I think I'd struggle to taste it at those flavour levels.
Only one way to find out!
I'd want at least 10% flavour or its a waste of time on my taste buds really. Is there a reason everything is so low? Do you just like a mild taste?
He's not using TFA or cap flavors that are diluted down. FLV Cinnamon is pretty potent, and you don't really taste Cinnamon in a cola so you need to keep it low enough to hide behind other flavors. Likewise, there shouldn't be a vanilla to a cola. And so on.
I‘ve gone through these ingredients over and over again in my head and I can’t get a real clue of what it will taste. That combined with the lack of the flavor notes makes me so curious, that I will get the ingredients and mix this up...
Due to VT Sherbet basically mainly tasting like a weak lemonade, my guess is it will probably taste like a citrus vape with a hint of vanilla and cinnamon. Quite refreshing! I'd bump the WS to 1.25% but that's personal preference.
So prolific Mr. Pudding, keep up the great work! Will leave reviews once I get all your new mixes mixed up. Not sure I've ever had a cola vape but I didn't buy Fizzy Sherbert for nothin'. Should be within the week, I've decided to place a pre-black Friday order to hold me over lolz.
Edit: did the name come from the 0.07% rich cinnamon or am I just a guy who likes magical stories in the world? You dont have to answer that lol
That's exactly why I picked the name! I'm glad you caught it. Let me know what you think when you get around to mixing it up, I would love to know your thoughts.
I had a totally different guess! I thought it was a secret agent cola recipe (secret because no cola flavorings). Ah well!
When my wife inevitably yells at me for making a large Black Friday order I’m sending her your way!
I keep telling myself I’ve got plenty of flavors and you keep putting out more recipes that sound wonderful!
Alright I’ll start working on an excuse for you, which flavors are you missing from this one?
Haha life saver!
I need to get VT Fizzy Sherbet and FLV Rich Cinnamon for this guy.
Made your lemon cheesecake and loved it so will be getting FW Blood Orange. With FA's version I've had some success, but not keen on FA Royal Orange or TFA Orange/Mandarin.
Have you tried VT Blood Orange, and if so how does that compare to the FW?
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I'm waiting on an order this week to make the lemon CC. I've made both the Daveberry and the BB Trinity one, and can highly recommend both. Can't wait for the lemon!
I tried numerous cheesecake recipes prior to Alfred's base and reckon he's nailed it! The FE Lemon seems perfect for cream/bakery; I've used with WF Crepe since the CC and that was yummy too.
I’m so happy to hear that you enjoyed the lemon cheesecake! Are you referring to VT Blood Orange Champagne? That one doesn’t sound very appealing to me, it’s an artificial orange flavor. FW Blood Orange is a natural one that does the zesty quality very well, without being overpowering.
I've tried FA Blood Orange, TFA Orange/Mandarin and FA Royal Orange. Probably all useful but the only one I liked was the FA BO. I'll check the FW out!
Are you saying this smells like a cola? I want to follow what you’re trying to say about your new process but you started and didn’t finish for me...how did smelling help you here? Do you taste on your skin too? Or diluted in water?
Yes, this smells like cola. Mixing with your sense of smell can speed up the development process a lot. I taste stuff on my knuckle when I’m finished, but ever since I switch to the Jennifer Jarvis method that’s about 5% of the process. I’m so happy you were interested in that section! I included it so that other people would give it a shot too, and I hope you try it out!
Edit- I didn’t like my first answer.
I also wanted to comment and say thank you for bringing this point to light, I instinct-ually tend to do this anyways - always feeling like I'm over-smelling things and I do have a horrible habit of licking the tiniest of droplets caused by negative pressure from LDPE bottles or after a knuckle test. It's actually sort of a guilty pleasure haha. Gonna do some research on the JJ Method, I gather it has to do with mixing by smell?
I appreciate you. Yes it has a lot to do with smell. Feel free to come by her stream on YouTube tomorrow and ask for some pointers. It’s bring a friend day so if you come I will have succeeded. There are so many things she does with smell that I never considered: faster steep testing, checking potency, etc.
Dammit. I have everything but rich cinnamon.
You need some Rich Cinnamon in your life! It’s awesome stuff.
I suppose I could make an order soon. To get it that low I guess you have to dilute it?
I’m curious what’s your profession and if it’s not in the culinary industry maybe you missed your calling, idk but you’re seriously talented and too have a knack for this..;)
I pretty much exclusively vape bakeries, custards and tobaccos. But this intrigued me so gave it a whirl. It is exceptional! Mr Pudding has cooked up something wondrous, don't sit on the fence, just make it. I see this placing highly in the end of year Best Of lists. Thank you u/AlfredPudding
Ok, first keep in mind I have a weird palette - I'm one of those folks who has problems finding a strawberry that tastes even remotely like strawberry instead of the plant strawberries grow on (mixed with blood), most creams cause what I call "lung bubbles" or lung congestion, cereals or acetyl pyrazine just HELL NO no matter how much it's all I can taste, the only time I was able to stand cooling was menthol when I was sick, every time I've tried juice with any hint of cinnamon I've pretty much ignored it into the garbage and my first test with Fizzy Sherbet resulted in me feeling 0.5% would be more than strong enough. Being the optimist that I am pretty much not... I decided to get the rich cinnamon and give this a try anyway. Keep that all in mind.
Mixed this up yesterday (I assumed 30% WS-23, I only have 10% so I modified accordingly. Plus diluting the RC to 10% and putting that in as 0.7%), couldn't stop myself from trying it around 16h later. First puff on the RDA, and what I was left thinking was if I soaked a cinnamon bun in mountain dew then took a bite after just having finished a strong menthol lozenge. OK, maybe a cola... like Tasty Puff Cola. You probably didn't notice the long pause to get over the shudders of the memory of having tried that particular concentrate. BUT! The effect was opposite, this stuff is really tasty even after such a short steep, this little bottle I mixed won't last long at all, though I will try to see if I can make it last the week to see where it gets to once better blended.
Honestly, I've been looking for a cola base that isn't bright. FA is probably the best I've had in a minagerie of everything from do you smell burning tires to this is just cinnamon with a hint of lime, but still too bright. If anyone reading this has run into a cinnamon that is basically what FA Black Touch is compared to Twizzlers instead of what cinnamon hearts are compared to sweetener... I'd love to hear of it.
Thanks for sharing this one u/AlfredPudding! You gave my imagination some wings!
Thank you so very much for taking the time to leave an awesome comment. I was getting really worried after the first paragraph, but I’m seriously so glad you ended up liking it.
A little over a week out, giving that cinnamon and ws-23 some time to settle in did wonders for it, totally lost the cinnamon bun layering I had the first couple days.
Now it actually gives me some flashbacks to some weird (cola colored with darker stripes) candy found in grandma's hard candy bowl - the ones that look like they might be mints but are not and you have no idea what they are or where they came from but ate because grandma got them for The Kids and any less would not be polite, but decades later kinda regret not asking what are they and where did they come from. Now I'm missing grandma... sigh flavor memory takes you to so many weird places.
Anyway, thanks again AlfredPudding! I really want to try this without the ws-23 now... just for kicks, but it's definitely great and unique as-is.
So did anyone actually mixed this liquid? Also I wonder it is advised to use very low dose so how could I do that? Does it mean I would need to dilute some flavor first? Thanks
If you head to the ATF page here you can read some reviews. The only thing you should need to dilute is Rich Cinnamon.