I'm sure we all have one (or more)... those flavors that get added to a mix to make it sweeter, even as we avoid using sweeteners except as a last resort. Personally, I find FA Marzipan, with the cherry-esque vibe it gives, works really well with fruit blends. INW Marzipan should work in mixes where the nuttier flavor would fit better, like tobacco. For tobaccos, I'm thinking TFA Cubano Type seems to be a good source of sweet, but I'm going to want to experiment some more with it to make sure. And finally, I love using TFA Honeysuckle to sweeten, as well. I'm sure a lot of people just use a meringue or sweetener, but anyone else got a secret weapon?
The marzipans, the meringues, TFA Honeysuckle, FA Pear, TFA Brown Sugar, various caramel flavors and butterscotches, OoO Powdered Sugar, various Cotton Candy flavors (they aren't all just EM like TFA), TFA Strawberry Ripe, various marshmallow flavors, FA Oba Oba, CAP Hibiscus...
Which cotton candy flavors are your favorite? My brother's reason for getting into DIY has been to clone (yeah....I know...) Propaganda The Hype Cotton Candy. I think he has 20 cotton candy concentrates, but is too "lazy" to SFT. By no means am I trying to transmute your expertise into insight for my brother but I suppose I may be lol.
Asking anyone what their favorite Cotton Candy flavor is will do nothing to help him. He has to get off his ass and try them. If he doesn't single flavor test those 20 cotton candy concentrates, he's never going to figure out which one is in there. It's probably just TFA Cotton Candy at like 10% and a bunch of sweetener, but I dunno.
TFA's can be useful to round off harsh notes (selective muting) but I think it gets a touch bitter and chemically/weird by the time you push it up high enough to get that hint of spun sugar to really be like a mouth full of cotton candy, and even though it can be used to smooth harshness at a low amount, if you crank it up too high it's a little harsh on its own.
Personally, I like Lorann's Cotton Candy and FLV Cotton Candy, though CAP Blue Raspberry Cotton Candy also has a place as a sweetener for raspberry and other candy berry profiles. LA's version is cool as an additive because it can sweeten AND emulsify without a ton of muting. Like putting your juice in a blender with a pinch of cotton candy. FLV tastes like cotton candy and vanilla marshmallow had a delicious baby.
Thank you for taking the time to type that out. I find it pretty uncanny that the mix I made for him that he liked the best and said was the most accurate, was a mix of FLV, LA, and CAP BRCC :) I suppose great minds think alike.
I know I read about using CC's as sweetener when doing research before starting day 1, but for whatever reason that thought hasn't come up in a while. I tend to do a lot of berries so I'm gonna use that CAP BRCC tip for sure.
I know you must get this a lot but you are such an invaluable resource! Your passion and intelligence really come through in your comments/notes/suggestions. You rock, don't ever change! >_>
Edit: a word
Noob here. What is the reason that you don't want to use sweeteners?
Basically, any schmuck can throw a couple concentrates together and then just keep adding sweetener until someone likes it. (This is what many 'premium' juices do.) Ideally, you build a complete recipe that is good without sweetener, then you can add sweetener afterwards to help those with a serious sweet tooth. And a touch of sweetener added to a great recipe can make it epic.
If you afraid of bears don't go in the forest. Sweeteners are not only to make your juice sweet. You round flavors , bright them and so much other stuffs. Dig dipper and you are going to find. You can junk your coils only if you use tons of it, the rest is a myth. My coil last almost a mount not because is junked but because I feel that I abuse, otherwise I can go easy month and a have with 1 coil.
>Op, not saying anything about coils.
>You, the champion of reading comprehension.
There are plenty of myths about concentrates but sweeteners leading to a coil lasting a shorter amount of time isn't one of them.
Also, certain sweeteners might brighten fruits but quite a lot of them are going to mute your juice. like, say, ethyl maltol for one really big example.
E: Oh.. Right. Favorite sweetening flavor, probably:
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FA Pear or FA Blackcurrant. depends on if it's a dark berry or a more light fruit like pineapple, mango, guava.
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FA Meringue for bakery.
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TFA Bavarian Cream for creamy/milky stuff.
Excellent precis.
edit: I love FA Blackcurrant, but I'd be afraid to try to use it as a sweetening flavor unless I was going for Swedish berries or a candy like that. It's potent and a bully... but I still like it. I should use it more often. Maybe with some gin.
I don't nave problem with sweeteners because I use in a correct amount. It is personal choice. The problem is that people gives wrong advices. And me like chef with more of 20 years of experience in the kitchen I work with these flavors for more then 15 years. Do you really think you can say something that I don't know. I don't post in this sub because I don't argue with kids, but if You find the right one You can read a lot of my post.
> Do you really think you can say something that I don't know.
Yes. Because kitchen experience does not relate directly to mixing experience.
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>I don't post in this sub because I don't argue with kids,
This part is particularly funny to me. I'd be willing to bet the average age of users in this sub are between the ages of 25 and 40.
🤔🤔..are you saying sweeteners do not affect the life of your coil? Seriously? I completely disagree and would hate to tell that noob that asked the question, not the OP, that sweeteners don’t affect his coils. Maybe you have the reading comprehension problems...just saying.