What's the recipe that made you go all in with DIY? I'm assuming we've all had our failures but which one made it click for you?
Oddly for me it was the basic strawberry and cream I found on YouTube after realising I can't just chuck flavours in and hope for the best.
None really. I came to DIY at almost the same time that I came to vaping so I never tried any premium juices (had a few crappy one fruit flavours for my MTL at first) and decided that not DIYing is a mug's game.
Yeah. My personal tastes are pretty out of line with the standard north american customer base, from the way IRL I find - for example - lemonade mix (or any drink crystals, really) is usually about 50% more potent than I enjoy. So the insane sweetness of 'premium' juices? After I first started DIYing, I could never return to the juice I started vaping on. And when the costs of DIY versus premium are considered.... and the fact is, I've only once made a juice that I found unvapeable, and 90+% of juices in stores are what I consider unvapeable, so really....
Add another vote for "None". I was attracted to DIY because I can tweak recipes to my personal preference. Almost every juice I tried before left me thinking "This could be better if . . . ". Now that I mix my own, the IF becomes a WHEN. And as an extra added bonus - it's MUCH cheaper.
My DIY journey started because my state (WV) thought it would be cute to add a sin tax of 7.5% per ml. They have received zero pennies from me since then. But what inspired me was the supposed "Cuttwood Leak". My brother is a fan of Unicorn Milk, so after a two week steep I brought him a bottle. First words outta' his mouth were "You made this in your fucking living room?". I learned two things that day. One is, that nigga gave himself the nickname "The Sauce Boss". To date, he doesn't need both hands to count his good recipes. And two, it's a level playing field. The skies the limit in DIY ejuice creation.
Did I mention fuck WV and Cuttwood?🤣🤣🤣🤣
when that tax went into effect is when i stopped vaping the first time
Where you live at in WV? I live in St. Albans. Anyways, it had already been in effect for me but the local vape shop had been covering it. So I go and lose my debit card. They say it could potentially take two weeks. So I go to this other shop because they have a house brand. I grab a 120 ml bottle. Man, it goes from $38 on the shelf to $50 and some change at the register. They tacked on $9 plus the 6% sales tax. I went apeshit. From that day on, they got nothing from me with their sin tax. They're still cocksuckers. But they did me the biggest favor.
No specific recipe sold me on doing DIY. I was sold after absorbing as much of this subreddit as a I could but before my first supplies had even arrived.
But there was a recipe I tried fairly early on that stands out. It was one of the first times I mixed someone else's recipe after many lackuster attempts to create my own recipes. It showed me what DIY is capable of and what standard of quality I wanted to attempt to reach and hold myself to, Strawberry Shortcake Bar. I said to myself, "Self, if this NotCharlesManson character can do this, you can, too." It was a great inspiration and encouragement to me.
Could you share that recipe here? I've been trying for weeks to load that ATF page but it just never loads. I had assumed it was just a dead link somehow.
3 (TPA) Bavarian Cream
1 (INW) Biscuit
1.5 (FW) Cake (yellow)
1.5 (TPA) Cheesecake (graham Crust)
1.5 (TPA) Strawberry
6 (TPA) Strawberry (ripe)
2 (CAP) Sugar Cookie
2 (TPA) Vanilla Swirl
SC Honey Flue Cured and SC Blended. Those were the two flavors that kept me from throwing in the towel after going through some Seedman, CAP, and TFA tobaccos that all sucked pretty hard.
Have you tried SC Seven or Cohiba? The only two SC I have, I think they are both really decent.
I don’t think I ever got around to the Seven, but I enjoy Cohiba. It’s one of the better leathery type of flavors. After I got so many of the SC tobaccos I realized a lot of them were very similar in taste, so I just stopped buying new ones.
As I see you like tobacco liquids, have you tried the Black Note one´s?Especially the Prelude one.
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After maybe 60 liquids I have tried since I started vaping 8 years ago, that one is the best tobacco one by far.
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Not DIY though and not cheap, so I don´t smoke it daily.
I haven’t tried any of the Black Note stuff. I believe they use NETs and possibly other flavors on top of them, but I haven’t really looked too much in to what they do because I know I’ll never spend money on an NET eliquid since it’s so cheap to make myself.
https://www.blacknote.com/making-of-blacknote/ - It is different than anything else I´ve tried.
I have tried maybe 4-5 DIY tobacco liquids, and only one was quite good for a daily vape (JP or something, have to check the name). The others were crap.
What aroma do you use for a tobacco DIY flavour?
The cost savings sold me, not one specific recipe. I am perfectly fine vaping my shit mixes with the amount of money i saved
Funny but I went all in after sampling some vapes from u/hashslinginslashur. I tried a graprefuit cream of his and remember standing on the streets of brooklyn at night thinking: "This is awesome" AND "Someone made this." After that I tried one of his tobaccos and figured I'd double down on tobaccos. I liked them the most at that point, I figured that I could get one of the better flavors and just straight vape it until I learned to blend them. I was actually smart enough to ask for advice and buy for recipes in addition to the recommendations I got from u/chemicalburnvictim and others.
So, i guess, for me it would be trying hash's grapefruit and cream and cbv’s Brigade.
Grapefruit cream sounds delicious. Care to share or link to the recipe?
Unicorn Milk, but starting out, I had no recipe and no idea what I wanted to make. What I did have was an intense desire to liberate myself from commercial juice, and a lot of information gained from the VU DIY forum and YouTube about how to do it. So I took the plunge, bought Liquid Barn's starter kit, and went from there. My first recipes were just single flavor experiments using the stuff in the kit. They worked well enough to keep me forging on, but I didn't like all the syringes and mixing vessels involved in mixing by volume, so my next buy was an LB-501 from Amazon. From there I stumbled upon a Unicorn Milk clone (I was spending a lot of money on it pre-mixed at the time) and so bought what I needed from BCV to make it. Apparently it was a spot-on recipe, I was tickled pink it worked so well. That little experiment convinced me that DIY was worth investing in, so down the rabbit hole I went with a bunch of orders to BCV and NicRiv.
No specific recipe for me, just two years free of smokes and realizing that half the juice out their is hyped up, over priced, sucralose and most of it doesn't even taste that great. If that stuff could sell at that price point, and it's this cheap to make it myself, might as well start.
An old clone of a juice called deadly sin I found and messed around with until I got it like I wanted it. Was better than the original to me.
Mind sharing the recipe? I really like deadly sin. I’m assuming it’s the GoodLife clone.
Deadly Sin (kriga v2)
5.00% Butterscotch (FW)
4.00% Cinnamon Danish Swirl (CAP)
1.00% Joy (FA)
5.00% RY4 Double (TPA)
2.00% Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP)
Kriga's v2 is my personal favorite. If I don't have time to steep properly:
Sudden Deadly Sin (Monotom)
2.00% Butterscotch (FA)
4.00% Cinnamon Danish Swirl (CAP)
1.00% Joy (FA)
5.00% RY4 Double (TPA)
2.00% Vanilla Swirl (TPA)
I've mixed a deadly sin clone too.
Cinnamon Danish Swirl (CAP) 6%
RY4 Double (TPA) 6%
What did you change?
*edit- NVM, I just saw your reply
Clone of the Vapor Chef honey pearry
It wasn't my reason for wanting to DIY but it was the first recipe I mixed. No steep just a shake and vape...... I was amazed.
I found the pic I took off that first mix!
http://imgur.com/apFaeqk My God that was 5 yrs ago :O
Ah, the old protank mini with rebuilt cotton coil heads. Good times.
For me it was Dazcole's Fantastic. I'm a sucker for all things citrus and most of the commercial ones I've tried have been underwhelming. I still mix up a 60ml of Fantastic every few months.
I just got my flavor order to mix this delivered yesterday and I think this might be the first one I toss together.
For me, it was when I made my first flavor that was enjoyable to vape. It started off as just a hobby. I was working in one of the first brick and mortar stores in my state and I wanted to be as knowledgeable as possible. I kind of stumbled into a really vapeable recipe and was instantly hooked. Now it's my full time job and I love it.
Maha Ras:
TFA Coconut Extra - 5.5%
TFA Musk Candy - 4%
TFA Mary Jane - 2%
CAP Sweet Strawberry - 3%
CAP Raspberry - 3%
I made a pluid clone that everyone hates me for because it contains oils. But it's spot-on. That's why pluid was both a tank cracker and the most intense flavor I've ever Vaped.
Use all Loranns oils try a mix of horehound, anise oil, and orange oil.
I did single-flavor DIY for years before I started actually mixing recipes. I had, through trial and error, found a few flavors that I liked alone - CAP VC v1, LA Butter Rum, and LA Creme de Menthe. I vaped those in rotation for 2-3 years.
Then I saw a youtube video where someone was vaping "Bronuts", which led me to Wayne's site. I bought the flavors I needed to make Bronuts and Wayne's Golden Ticket clone (version 2 or 3, maybe? the one with TFA Double Chocolate Clear in it). He also had an article with the best recipes of the year (2015 or 2016, maybe?), which included Pebbles (Skiddlz) and Sugar Cookies and Cream (Chrisdvr), so I ordered those ingredients soon after. After that I was hooked.
I started mixing a few years ago, making small lemonades, mountain dews, and fruit bases, like this: http://tjek.nu/r/3Mw (I've seen found a more inticing recipe)
It wasn't until I bought this juice when I realized how expensive juice was and that I could actually pursue the cloning of juices.
White Lotus- Way of the Dragon- White lotus is the perfect blend of mature, exotic fruit and cream flavorings. Our adult costumers absolutely love this bright, succulent e-liquid! Papaya, Nectarine and Apricot.
I didn't clone it myself but I was hot on the heels of the member that did, and every since then, my while buffalo sought and captured, I started researching clone processes and learning by watching others, and hints/tips/tricks.
I think I was dedicated to mixing for about a year or so before White Lotus had finally be captured.
http://tjek.nu/r/4tJL... this recipe has its secret ingredient in the notes, but..with Grainger and Biosphere, they found it, I was just along for the ride. It was biscotti cookie (FA) was the final touch.
I make this a few times a year, having since satisfied my thirst for the White Lotus, but like with finding any treasure, the mystery behind it revealed, I got complacent with the juice, I moved on to pursuing other goals and helping others try to find there white buffalo...or their White Lotus.
That was, what feels like forever ago today.
Pepperidge Farm members
rocking back on forth in the wood chair on the porch
Botboys - Ba'nana cream I originally tried his juice line when GGG was still active. I loved it so much I wanted to make a huge bottle, The recipe I used was spot on to the bottle I bought. It was a huge win for me
There wasn't a specific recipe it was the new TPD regs in Europe. I started vaping in 2013 and then went back to cigs Dec. '16. Came back to vaping this year and discovered that the only way to go was DIY because of the prices and regs. Since then have been doing my own takes on existing recipes and haven't had any unvapeable yet!! The biggest kick is the ability to tweak to your exact taste and very much still learning flavours 50 and counting :))
What made you go back to cigs on '16?
Stupid really... I caught my other half smoking in secret. Said right it's Christmas i'm going to have a cigar. Went out and bought three cubans and boy they were delicious. After another 3 the old itch started and ended up smoking again for another year ish. Never again though. 😇
Stupid really... I caught my other half smoking in secret. Said right it's Christmas i'm going to have a cigar. Went out and bought three cubans and boy they were delicious. After another 3 the old itch started and ended up smoking again for another year ish. Never again though. 😇
Stupid really... I caught my other half smoking in secret. Said right it's Christmas i'm going to have a cigar. Went out and bought three cubans and boy they were delicious. After another 3 the old itch started and ended up smoking again for another year ish. Never again though. 😇
100 ml 70/30, no flavoring, 6 mg nic for < $3, that's what sold me. ;)
Nice, and it has kept you off of cigarettes? Can't beat that. When time comes to quit vaping it may be be easier for you to quit since you're not vaping tons of flavours , just using vaping for the nicotine fix. Good stuff.
Oh, I'm still flavoring it, but that only adds a few cents on to the cost of 100ml. Though I have used the unflavored stuff when I was too lazy to mix up another batch, or when I ran through everything else and had to wait for stuff to steep. Works just fine to me. :)
Strawberry orange banana, best smoothie flavor I've ever had
HIC's strawberry milk. I doubled the percentages and added 3% WS23 (@ 30%). This is my ADV, it's just like vaping strawberry nesquik with and icy kick.
Awesome, got a link for that one?
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/2336658/HIC%20Quikberry%20Pink
Try doubling the percentages here and add 2% WS23 (30%). I actually tripled them because of vaping MTL and also added 3% WS23 (30%).
It seriously tastes like nesquik lol.
None. The B&M I started buying juice from was all over the place with flavor strength and nicotine, like expecting 6mg and getting 18mg, so I went all in to at least have consistency regardless to quality. I stuck with single flavor recipes for around 2 years, slowly reducing % to maximize cotton life and minimize chemicals. Just recently got into ATF and getting creative, but I never go over 7% total flavors
I was a victim of circumstance. Where I'm from nic is illegal to be sold in juice out of a B&M. But one place I knew did sell it and I heard of one more other place. The place I got mine from got busted so I had no more juice. A months worth of reading this sub later I placed my first order
Ella’s shortbread biscuit, geography, Mother of god milk and strawberry bliss were the first few recipes that gave me a lot of inspiration in the beginning. Since then I’ve found so many more and they keep getting better and helping me on my own journey of creation. When I recently mixed Apple buttah I felt like I was sold all over again though.
Man, I’ve steeped Ella’s Shortbread for months and I still can’t handle it. One tug dries me out instantly. It smells amazing but I’ve seriously never coughed so hard in my life.
It’s a little dry for me but nothing that made it too harsh. Shows how different we all are. I hate that though, flavor art strawberry and watermelon dry me up so much that I Feel like I’m getting a sinus infection. Love them so much though I still use them in certain recipes.
It was the cheap prices that drew me in. I can make over 100ml of juice for way less than what any proper juice company offers.
The thing that got me into experimenting with flavors (vs just buying the stuff, adding 1 flavor and calling it good) is strawberry banana. Very simple 50/50 strawberry, and banana. 15% flavor in total. 70/30 vg/pg.
One of my first creations was an attempt to clone a local vape shop's Strapple Melon juice. I hadn't tried it recently enough to actually know how close I got but it tasted damn good and not too far from what I remembered of the original. Also a really simple lemon cookie (just TPA Bavarian Cream, FA Lemon Sicily and CAP Sugar Cookie) that was another one of the first batch of liquids I made, people were constantly stopping to ask what flavor I had because it smelled so good when I vaped it. Definitely gave me a confidence boost to tell people it was my own recipe! Now I'm thinking I should go get out my old notebook and whip those up...
I'm gonna be completely honest, I don't think there's any recipe I've found on ELR that actually made me think "wow, this is so much better than premium ejuice". Actually, every single one of them tasted very weak/poor.
But it was hella cheaper, and one-shots are a thing. Still, back then I was really obsessed with finding at least one recipe that'll blow my socks off, so I built a huge flavor stash. In less than a month I dropped like $200 - $300 on TPA, CAP & FA concentrates. There were a few recipes that were decent/meh, but still, nothing to phone home about.
So I was just about ready to give up, when I started mixing stuff on my own. I stopped trying to copy others' recipes and just went "fuck it, I either throw them away or mix them up my way". And that's when I actually started to find some pretty damn good combinations. Sure, a few failures as well, but there were some really damn awesome mixes (for me, at least, and that's what really mattered) that finally made me go "hell yeah, it was worth it", especially since I haven't found any commercial ejuice to match that flavour profile yet.
A friend even took some to a local B&M and told me they liked it, which made me consider starting a local ejuice brand, but I got pretty discouraged because I have no idea about the degree of logistics & legal work behind it.
Long story, sorry about that.
I'm gonna be completely honest, I don't think there's any recipe I've found on ELR that actually made me think "wow, this is so much better than premium ejuice". Actually, every single one of them tasted very weak/poor.
But it was hella cheaper, and one-shots are a thing. Still, back then I was really obsessed with finding at least one recipe that'll blow my socks off, so I built a huge flavor stash. In less than a month I dropped like $200 - $300 on TPA, CAP & FA concentrates. There were a few recipes that were decent/meh, but still, nothing to phone home about.
So I was just about ready to give up, when I started mixing stuff on my own. I stopped trying to copy others' recipes and just went "fuck it, I either throw them away or mix them up my way". And that's when I actually started to find some pretty damn good combinations. Sure, a few failures as well, but there were some really damn awesome mixes (for me, at least, and that's what really mattered) that finally made me go "hell yeah, it was worth it", especially since I haven't found any commercial ejuice to match that flavour profile yet.
A friend even took some to a local B&M and told me they liked it, which made me consider starting a local ejuice brand, but I got pretty discouraged because I have no idea about the degree of logistics & legal work behind it.
Long story, sorry about that.
I'm gonna be completely honest, I don't think there's any recipe I've found on ELR that actually made me think "wow, this is so much better than premium ejuice". Actually, every single one of them tasted very weak/poor.
But it was hella cheaper, and one-shots are a thing. Still, back then I was really obsessed with finding at least one recipe that'll blow my socks off, so I built a huge flavor stash. In less than a month I dropped like $200 - $300 on TPA, CAP & FA concentrates. There were a few recipes that were decent/meh, but still, nothing to phone home about.
So I was just about ready to give up, when I started mixing stuff on my own. I stopped trying to copy others' recipes and just went "fuck it, I either throw them away or mix them up my way". And that's when I actually started to find some pretty damn good combinations. Sure, a few failures as well, but there were some really damn awesome mixes (for me, at least, and that's what really mattered) that finally made me go "hell yeah, it was worth it", especially since I haven't found any commercial ejuice to match that flavour profile yet.
A friend even took some to a local B&M and told me they liked it, which made me consider starting a local ejuice brand, but I got pretty discouraged because I have no idea about the degree of logistics & legal work behind it.
Long story, sorry about that.
I started doing diy once I realised I can make juice that's damn near 100% VG without sacrificing flavor/nicotine. And also the fact if I bought the flavors and nicotine if I ever ran out of juice I could just go to the local Wal-Mart and pick up more VG rather than waiting 5-7 days for an online juice order or getting raped at a local vape shop.
Havnt had any failures yet my favorite mixtures so far has been a tobacco custard, blueberry cigar, and straight caramel. Im looking into making more intricate flavors soon tho like cream soda, orange cream, dragonfruit custard, etc.
On my first day as a vaper I bought a 30ml bottle of Spacejam Pluto. It was gone two days later and that was a bit of a shock after hearing so many times that vaping is much cheaper than smoking.
I have a habit of using google as a wishing well (you'd be surprised to find out how many wishes it grants if youŕe not being wildly unrealistic). I tried "make spacejam pluto at home"or whatever and found a recipe that was incredibly simple and agreed upon that it was the stuff.
It took a lot more time to actually make that specific recipe but it did sell me on DIY, First recipe I really binged on was Nana Cream, and that seems a common thing after just having kicked the ciggies.
Best e juice Clone Recipes
Mustard Milk
It’s one of the simplest two-part e-juice clone recipes even a beginner can nail. Begin with a PG/VG/Nic base, add 6% of TPA Strawberry and 8% of TPA Vanilla bean ice cream. Next, leave the liquid to steep for several days (up to one week).
Vulture Punch Clone
Begin with a PG/VG/Nic base, add 0.5% TPA Brown Sugar, 0.5% Cotton candy, 1% Madagascar (Vanilla Classic) (FA), 1% Strawberry Sweet (TPA), 1% Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA), 8% Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP), 8% Kiwi Strawberry (Stevia) (CAP).
Mother’s Milk Clone
This is a more complex recipe for adventurous vapers. Begin with a PG/VG/Nic base, add 0.5% Graham Cracker (Clear) (TPA), 0.5% Marshmallow (TPA), 1% Caramel Candy (TPA), 2% Vanilla Custard (TPA), 3% Bavarian Cream (TPA), 3% Cinnamon Danish (TPA), 3% French Vanilla Deluxe (TPA), 3% Sweet Cream (TPA), 3% Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TPA), 5% Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA), and 6%Cheesecake New York Style (LA).
Mainly the price point and the realization that businesses are all about profit and rarely source the best ingredients.
It also ended up being an odd hybrid combining my chef talents and chemistry background. Who knew!
1st amazing recipe was Black Forest, but it's so thick and rich that it wasn't usable as an ADV
2nd was:
Grape Escape
- TFA Grape Juice 7%
- TFA Dragonfruit 2%
- TFA Apple 2%
- TFA Grape Soda 1%
Soda is nasty perfumy unless you bulk steep that shit heavily. Likely optional.