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Why are pear and cactus, among others, juicy?
submitted about 7 years ago by oldedb69

Some flavors are “dry”and some are “juicy”. Does anyone know why? Do they share a common chemical that causes salivation? I am equally interested in how dry works but frankly juicy is more useful just now.

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by isuamadogabout 7 years ago

Magic. (Clearly I have no idea)

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 7 years agoMixologist

Valid answer

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by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

YM "Ancient Chinese Secret".

HTH, HAND.

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by MasterBeernutsabout 7 years ago

I will upvote your next 100 posts OP, if you can research and come up with the answer.

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by Ernie_is_deadabout 7 years agoFrugivore

I also have no idea, but I can add another one:​

FA Fuji is also very juicy.

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by M_R_Mayhewabout 7 years ago

I must not understand what you guys mean by juicy, because FA Fuji, while I find tastes delicious, I also think is a harsh throat hit.

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by Ernie_is_deadabout 7 years agoFrugivore

CAP Juicy Peach (and others) also has razor blades (throat hit), but it is still juicy.

On the other hand I do not get any throat hit at all from FA Fuji. Strange.

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by TheBorgerKingabout 7 years ago

That one is dry as fuck to me.

Never tried pear knowingly, and cactus is cactus. But Fuji reminds me of champagne it's so dry.

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by SuckMyJagon_about 7 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

Interesting. I just ordered pear (tpa) just because I thought a sour apple/watermelon/pear combo would be interesting. How much pear would you recommend to “bond” other flavors as you say?

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by TheBorgerKingabout 7 years ago

You're asking the wrong person here lol, never used any pear concentrates. I will be getting one on my next order.

But if it's tpa? Probably around 3% to start, adjusting for how much you want it to be in the recipe. I believe the pear in the title is FA which can be used under 1% so it doesn't impart taste. But if you want to use one and taste it? I'm not sure. But I do think that watermelon will be your biggest challenge!

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by Ernie_is_deadabout 7 years agoFrugivore

I love INW pear. Really good. 1% is more than enough of that.

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by GentleSubversiveabout 7 years ago

0–1.5%

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by Larry2Thumbsabout 7 years ago

It has a lot to do with the acidity of the flavor and the potency you use it at. I've found pear to be a great binding agent for other flavors even if it doesn't fit in the recipe, like strawberry milkshake or banana creme. it seems to pull out the other flavors without taking anything away from whats intended. I haven't used cactus so i can't say anything to that regard. But just a pear flavor is kinda stale unless you add some fun to it.

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by kuri_sanTouabout 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

you should really try cactus. here's a very simple winner called prickly victory by u/hashslingingslashur

(INW) Cactus 1%

(CAP) Sweet Guava 4%

don't let the low percentages fool you. you won't regret making this recipe

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by DrBrogboabout 7 years ago

That juice is way more delicious than anything that simple has a right to be.

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by marshwizardabout 7 years ago

I'm on this at the moment and couldn't remember the % and made it 5/1 instead of 4/1. It's very nice but I think the extra 1% guava starts to push it more to the "syrupy" level.

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by [deleted]about 7 years ago

Here is a link to a patent for several glycerol-based flavor enhancing agent transporters (in much the same way as natural fats and sugars do). The patent is for enhancing mouthfeel, etc, for flavors where it is not desirable to have 'dairy' qualities. That's the gist...

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20100215822

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by imNAchogrlabout 7 years agoKooky

Look back about a week and I can’t remember who, 🤦🏼‍♀️, but this guy posted links to how flavors work and it takes you to this really cool site and it talks about just this...the website is perfumerflavorist.com

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