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this flavor of the week could be your Main Squeeze: LEMONADE!
submitted about 7 years ago by ID10-TWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

As always, the purpose of this thread is to gather the community to explore a category of flavor and its many uses. And it's also to have FUN!

Post recipes containing this week's Flavor of the Week, as the star or in a supporting role, with or without development notes. Talk about other people's recipes that use it. Compare and contrast different manufacturers' versions of the FOTW. Ask for help using that flavor in general or to achieve something specific, offer advice, brainstorm ideas, consider substitutions, suggest pairings... really anything at all as long as it's on topic.

#This week's flavor is... LEMONADE

How did that get to be the FOTW?

It was requested. If you're not interested in this FOTW, please take this opportunity and comment to request one that interests you (or send me a PM to do that).

Past FOTW posts can be found here

The NOTED podcasts, which are bascially video FOTWs, are listed on this sheet, maintained by /u/apexified

Next week's flavor will be: Mint

The week after that will be: Crème Brûlée

The week after that will be: International Creams (Bavarian, Italian, Devon, Vienna, Catalan, Irish)

The week after that will be: Domestic Creams (Sweet, Fresh, and just plain Cream)

The week after that will be: Kiwi

The week after that will be: Butterscotch

The week after that will be: Nougat

The week after that will be: White Chocolate

The week after that will be: Chocolate

The week after that will be: Pecan

The week after that will be: Florals

The week after that will be: Ice Cream

The week after that will be: Herbs

The week after that will be: Tropical Punch/Tropical Blends

The week after that will be: Mixed/Weird Berries

The week after that will be: Root Beer

The week after that will be: Blueberry

The week after that will be: Savory

The week after that will be: Tea

The week after that will be: Yogurt

The week after that will be: Chocolate Cookies (Chocolate Chip, Oreo, Thin Mint)

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13 points
 
by AlfredPuddingabout 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

LA Lemonade is the answer.

6 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Almost.

LA Lemonade+INW Lemon Mix+WS-23 is the answer. Anything without cooling is NeoCitran, not lemonade.

3 points
 
by AlfredPuddingabout 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Well played.

3 points
 
by n0tveganabout 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

>Anything without cooling is NeoCitran

lol my MIL was addicted to that stuff for a good while.

5 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Yeah... personally in a state where I'd be willing to drink that stuff, I'd prefer just going with sriracha-infused chicken noodle soup. Or chicken noodle soup-infused sriracha, as it may be. But if I didn't have that, NeoCitran and gin would probably do. Although I'd probably add some cranberry juice. And Ice.

3 points
 
by bumfightworldchampabout 7 years ago

man you love your cooling agents, are you synthesizing ws-23 in your bath tub at this point? lol I like it too though, it's made many meh recipes surprisingly vapeable. for a relatively new mixer like myself it's good to have in the arsenal

2 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Not synthesizing anything yet. May inquire with my brother about his willingness to synthesize WS-12 tho. (He's the more experienced chemist.)

And yeah, cool something enough and you really don't notice the off notes as much.

6 points
 
by OdieDoodahabout 7 years ago

|Flavor Facts - Lemonade| |---| |FOTW - Lemonade 1| |Lemonade Recipes on ATF| |Lemonade Recipes on ELR|

 

|Flavor|Company|Review|ATF|ELR| |---|---|---|---|---| |Pink Lemonade|Capella| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Grandma's Lemonade|Chefs Flavors| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Pink Lemonade|Chefs Flavors| - - - | - - - |On ELR| |Lemonade|Flavor West| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Lemonade (Natural)|Flavor West| - - - | - - - |On ELR| |Pink Lemonade|Flavor West| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Strawberry Lemonade|Flavor West|by otsismi|On ATF|On ELR| |Lemonade|Flavorah|by wh1skeyk1ng|On ATF|On ELR| |Lemonade|Hangsen| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Pink Lemonade|Liquid Barn|by ConcreteRiver|On ATF|On ELR| |Lemonade|LorAnn|by wh1skeyk1ng|On ATF|On ELR| |Lemonade|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Pink Lemonade|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Raspberry Lemonade|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Strawberry Lemonade|One on One| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Pink Lemonade|One Stop DIY| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Arnold Palmer|One Stop DIY| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Lemonade|Purilum|by mysticrosell|On ATF|On ELR| |Strawberry Lemonade|Purilum|by mysticrosell|On ATF|On ELR| |Blueberry Lemonade Slushie|Real Flavors|by mysticrosell|On ATF|On ELR| |Lemonade|Real Flavors| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Strawberry Lemonade|Real Flavors| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Sparkling Lemonade|Rekka| - - - | - - - |On ELR| |Lemonade Cookie|The Flavor Apprentice| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Strawberry Lemonade|The Flavor Apprentice| - - - | - - - |On ELR| |Lemonade|Vape Train| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Lemonade Clear|Vape Train| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Lemonade|VapeWild| - - - | - - - |On ELR| |Lemonade|Wonder Flavors| - - - |On ATF|On ELR| |Summertime Lemonade|Wonder Flavors| - - - |On ATF|On ELR|

4 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Should the various Arnold Palmer concentrates (I believe there's more than one) be included in this listing?

3 points
 
by OdieDoodahabout 7 years ago

Maybe so - but as far as I can tell, there's no info for them in the Flavor Reviews, on ATF, or on ELR.
edit - after some more looking, I found one (One Stop DIY) and its been added.

2 points
 
by penatbaterabout 7 years ago

Man I'm excited to try flv lemonade. Whiskey King's note that LA is 9/10 harsh is spot on. I'll try my next version of vurve's lemonade with some EM. What's a good % for that?

5 points
 
by Akaitensiabout 7 years ago

Oh great timing. I just received a lot of fruits including LA Lemonade and mixed Best Damn Pink Lemonade (sorry no link I am on mobile). Any suggestion on other recipes? Maybe something more tropical with mango?

5 points
 
by Bassmuttabout 7 years ago

I haven't really made a bad lemonade using 6% la and .5% lemon Sicily as a lemonade base. Get some Flavorah Mango to throw in there and I can't see it being bad.

3 points
 
by Akaitensiabout 7 years ago

Awesome. FLV Mango was in the mail too and I haven’t tried it yet. Will do. Thanks :)

5 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

> Any suggestion on other recipes?

Purple lemonade

3 points
 
by Akaitensiabout 7 years ago

Damn im missing the inw grapes. Need to get that

4 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Yeah. You need it for Grack, so definitely get it.

2 points
 
by AlfredPuddingabout 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

It’s an awesome flavor! You can add pretty much any fruit on top and it will work. Just pick your favorite mango and put it on top of 6% LA Lemonade.

4 points
 
by Bassmuttabout 7 years ago

Lb pink lemonade , La Lemonade , and Flv Lemonade , Fa lemon Sicily and maybe some inw lemon mix , should cover any lemonade you can fancy.

4 points
 
by DreadPirateSnufflesabout 7 years ago

FW lemonade is my preferred concentrate. LA could be a good addition to a base, but using it at ~6% as the base tastes more like a lemon candy than a lemonade, it's much too sweet, sort of little the Lemonheads candy

2 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

5% LA Lemonade, .5% INW Lemon Mix, 1% WS-23. Add other fruit flavor as desired. If it's a really sweet fruit? Lower the LA Lemonade by a percent or so.

3 points
 
by RockyHarlowabout 7 years ago

Best Damn Pink Lemonade buy /u/vurve is a classic, even better with a dash of koolada or other cooling agent.

If you were unfortunate enough to pick up Cap Pink Lemonade and find that there's a lot of room for improvement for an actual lemonade, you could always try this Pink Lemonade JuJuBe candy by /u/enyawreklaw. This is a nice, sweet candy profile that I come back to from time to time. You can also toss 4 to 5% of Cap Pink Lemonade into Vurves Best Damn Pink Lemonade to give it a more candy lemon vibe. It's really not too bad this way. I discovered this by adding better lemons to the Cap PL and finding that to improve the flavor into a decent vape, I was pretty much building a better Lemonade around it, to the point that the only improvement to the mix was to omit it entirely.

To echo many other folks in this thread, 5-7% of LA lemonade with any fruit thrown in plus some coolant is hard to beat for a fruit lemonade. LA lemonade can get quite 'lemonheady' at 5%+ and can be remedied quite well with 0.5-0.75% FA Lemon Sicily.

FW lemonade is okay but seems very lacking as a whole to me. It seems to be a polarizing flavor in the communityas well so I'll only add subjective notes to this one. I find fw lemonade to be a lackluster variant of a flat lemon flavor that's trying to be lemonade but misses the key zing of a sharp lemonade. FA Lemon Sicily in low amounts again can salvage this note but IMO is still not as good as LA Lemonade.

3 points
 
by zytukinabout 7 years ago

Lemonade?

FW Natural Lemonade @ 2.5% is good by itself for a lemonade.

Or for a sweet lemonade, 3% FA Lemon Sicily + 2% FA Marshmallow. This one seems to work better as a lemonade to add other fruits to.

3 points
 
by fadedjay1about 7 years ago

Purple Berry Lemonade

WS-23 .7% T

fa blueberry extra 3%.

Fw blueberry 2%.

Fa bilberry .5%.

Fw Grape soda 3%

Inw Lemon concentrate 3

Inw lemon mix 1

Inw raspberry .8%

Tfa Raspberry (sweet) 1.5

Used the Holy Trinity from EdibleMalfunction and ID10-T's Lemonade mix to create this mix. Carries over as a well rounded grape lemonade on ice. Been an ADV for me for a few weeks now. Everyone hates on FW Grape Soda but i struggled to find the purple candy grape flavor i was looking for until Grape Soda. Hope you enjoy!

3 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Lemonade on ice is redundant. Lemonade is always on ice. It's kinda in the definition.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

So Canada Lemonade is the same thing as USA Lemonade?

I don't know anything about other English-speaking countries (or non-English-speaking ones, for that matter) but I know that in Australia (and presumably NZ), what they call "lemonade" is like Sprite or 7-Up. If you want lemonade down under you have ask for lemon squash or lemon smash or something silly like that. Could be worse, though, getting a Sprite when you wanted lemonade; if you ask for a napkin they bring you a diaper.

3 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

I've seen the term "lemon squash" used before. Thought it was by a limey, could've been by a aussie. Lemonade in canada is basically country time/lipton brisk.

2 points
 
by MasterBeernutsabout 7 years ago

Aussie here. Yes that's right - if it's clear (like 7-Up?) it's just called lemonade - and what you call lemonade, we call lemon squash. 'Nappy' equals your diaper, but a napkin is just what you wipe your face with after eating (they're also called serviettes).

But what the hell is it with you guys saying something is 'addicting'? Is that even a word? Surely the word ya'll are looking for is 'addictive'? Is 'addicting' taught at school there?

2 points
 
by Chriswheelaabout 7 years ago

FW lemonade is my go to, brilliant flavour profile!

3 points
 
by Prometheus_unwoundabout 7 years ago

I’m not a big fan of FW Lemonade- it reminds me of the lemon flavoring in Pedialyte. I could see it being a good mate for several lime concentrates, but I can’t really imagine any situation where I’d use it over LA Lemonade. Do you have any examples of where it really shines?

3 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Most mixers from Oz that I've heard from use FW rather than LA, simply due to LA not being easily sourced. I'm sure you'd just need to change the balance of 'other lemon' (INW Lemon Mix or FA Lemon Sicily or JF Lemon or whatnot) to lemonade, and it would be ok.

1 points
 
by Prometheus_unwoundabout 7 years ago

Huh, I guess LA hasn’t figured out how to package bottles upside down?

2 points
 
by isuamadogabout 7 years ago

Wasn’t there a different lemonade base using INW lemon mix? Can anyone speak to that?

The next few weeks look awesome btw.

I go back and forth on lemonade because it just seems too light alone most times. Definitely better to me with some pink in there. But, for sure, I start to get more excited when it’s more of a Palmer with fa Black tea added. I appreciate the dryness and how it plays with the fruit rather than a lighter ade. My only real adv before diy was zenith Orion raspberry lemonade. I still dabble in that pink profile on occasion.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I got fed up with how lemonade flavors tend to taste like Country Time powdered mix lemonade and made a real fresh-squeezed lemonade out of INW Lemon and INW Lemon Mix. It worked beautifully. Unfortunately, INW Lemon has since been reformulated (ruined, really) and I haven’t since revisited the “real lemonade” profile. When I do, INW Lemon Mix will almost certainly be a part of it.

Now I want to try a Palmer with TFA Sweet Tea. Though what I’d really like is a “Dirty Palmer” or Back Nine recipe with some Bourbon in there. Had a few attempts to make that work a long time ago but they failed. But now there’s VT Bourbon and that might be the key. I should get on that

2 points
 
by AlfredPuddingabout 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Please make this happen.

2 points
 
by Prometheus_unwoundabout 7 years ago

Have you tried INW Shisha Lemon?

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I’ve tried it as a single flavor, have not tried balancing it with Lemon Mix yet. Emphasis on yet because that one is probably my best bet

2 points
 
by isuamadogabout 7 years ago

Hmmmm how long ago was lemon reformulated? I picked some up late last year, I think. Did I miss the boat?

Sweet tea would probably be a better pair for balance but I’m always happier when something is just top heavy.

Is lemon mix sweet, tart, citrusy, all of the above?

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

You missed the boat I think.

Lemon Mix is Zesty. Which goes a long way for giving sweeter lemon flavors a more natural Lemon profile

2 points
 
by isuamadogabout 7 years ago

Follow up question: is there a lemon or lime that you know which can survive a steep of 2 to 3 weeks?

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

FE Lemon is the steepers lemon

2 points
 
by jdrocker77about 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Good timing. I've been vaping your Frosted Lemonade for the last week. Knowing my bottle of INW Lemon won't last forever, I've been working on my own lemonade base. I haven't nailed it yet but I do know INW Lemon Mix will have to be in there. That, FE Lemon and VT Lemonade (clear) have given me the best results, so far.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Hey Jbird! I’m glad you’re finding that recipe worthy of the last of your precious INW Lemon. What does VT Lemonade (clear) taste like? I only have the VT Lemonade that doesn’t have the (clear) after it

2 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

You may want to try JF Lemon + JF Juicy Lemon. I know one of those is close to INW Lemon Mix. Lemon Mix, like FA Lemon Pledge... well, you need to be careful how much you use, or steep for long enough for it to not taste like aerosol. And when you combine them, even in individually okay levels... the combination has the same result. Not sure which volatile is responsible... but it's common to a number of lemons. I'd be interested in trying to mix a lemonade using just the zesty lemons, some cactus, and maybe FA Pear,.

2 points
 
by isuamadogabout 7 years ago

Jf is gonna have to wait after I added all your last recommendations! Any opinion on my question to id10-t? Is there a lemon or lime that you know which can survive a steep of 2 to 3 weeks?

2 points
 
by juthincabout 7 years agoमैंगो कस्टर्ड

Not well. LA Lemonade will stick around longer than INW Lemon Mix (the candy flavors last better) but citrus fades badly. I know there was a lime that was supposed to last, but it isn't one I have.

2 points
 
by haunteddreams666about 7 years ago

lemonade fw 7% strawberry tfa 3%

3 points
 
by TheMostSolidOfSnakesabout 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

That, but drop the strawberry to 2% add 2% TFA ripe strawberry, and you're golden.

2 points
 
by haunteddreams666about 7 years ago

Ty, may have to try that next time.

2 points
 
by fadedjay1about 7 years ago

Bomb pop

Fa Cherryl .3%

Fw boom 3%

Inw lemon concentrate 1%

Inw lemon mix .3%

Fa lime tahity cold press .5%

Osdiy blue raspberry slushy .6%

Tfa em .5%

Ws-23 1%

2 points
 
by TheSpanishSteedabout 7 years ago

Any base recipes for a more tart lemonade? I like it a bit more sour.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Get INW Lemon Mix to add to whatever lemonade you like but would prefer to be a bit more realistic

2 points
 
by TheSpanishSteedabout 7 years ago

Okay gotcha. For lemonades i went with: La lemonade Lemon Sicily

Limeades: Line tahity distilled Inw lime.

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