For people who have tried some of them. What are your opinion's. I ve tried several and some of them are great haven't tried a bad one yet. But some are kind of meh.
The standouts I've tried are
Ruyan custard - great ry4 type of profile , maybe the best caramel I've had in vape form. And it doesn't need much steeping at all. 24rs and it is ready to go. 3-5% is what I use , its A good stand alone. Try it with fresh 03s custard base 3% ruyan custard , 4% Lb ice cream , .5% Flavorah pudding.
Sour Watermelon Candy - Pretty msuch spot on sour patch watermelon. No its not really sour. Someone mentioned a dish soap off note and I have gotten that as well but it seems to go away pretty quickly for me.I like this stand alone around 6%.
Tahitian Vanilla cream - Smooth , rich , vanilla cream. I don't really know what Tahitian vanilla cream is , but I get a nice vanilla note out of this. Somtimes I seem to get some kind of bakery note , like a cookie maybe. I first tested it at 5% and steeped about 2 weeks , It was really rich , I think 1-3% is pretty good. Great with fruits , also good for pumping up custard and ice creams.
Sample recipe:
Inw Strawberry Shisha 2.5%
Wf Tahitian Vanilla Cream 3%
Hazlnuts and cream - Lord have mercy this stuff is good. If you like this profile you gotta try this one. I've only used this stand alone so far around 5-6%.
Peach gummies - pretty spot on. I recently picked up Fa candy wizard and it goes great with this one. If you have a sensitive throat you may have to let it steep awhile. Em seems to help with the harshness around .5%. I use this low around 2%.
Sample Recipe:
Wf peach gummy 1.5%
Fa Candy/Jammy 1%
Tpa Marshmallow .5&
Sweetner .5-1%
Apple cider - Not great by itself , but with Fa Fuji or Cap double apple its pretty nice. Used this at around 1-2% as an accent to apples.
Sample recipe:
Cap funnel cake 4%
Fa Fuji 2%
Wf Apple Cider 1%
Cap Vanilla Whipped Cream 1.5%
Banana puree - Best banana I've tried. It taste like a banana is the best description I can give. Really taste like banana puree I don't get any runt type flavor from this. If your looking for a natural banana this may be the closest to that. A banana pudding would be good , or a smoothie. I've only sf tested this around 2.5% so far.
Glazed donuts - A very good glazed doughnut. It reminds me of Krispy Kreme donuts.I get no playdough taste from this like some doughnut flavors. I get the glazed part first then a nice fried dough flavor. Definately a good start to a glazed doughnut , you could go for a custard filled , or jelly filled doughnut , May even work in other fried dough applications. Right now I enjoy it stand alone around 5 or 6%.
I have a few more coming in the mail as well.
And why are they not more popular? A few of those I named may be some of the best flavors I've had.
Edit: Added percents and ways I have used them. Added a few sample recipes.
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As is, there are no percentages listed, so not very helpful to anyone. Add them and tell us what you actually taste and this could be very helpful to people
Pun intended :-) I have the Banana Puree in my mailbox as we speak and excited to try that with HS's Banana. I'm going to try that combo first with FLV's Creme De Menthe and JF Dulce De Leche.
I can't believe you're using the watermelon at 6%. Most of their flavorings become completely overpowering around 2% for me, and I'm rarely in the "less is more" camp.
Are you talking about the regular or SC (super concentrated) line with 2%? I tend to use the few regs I have around 4-7% and the SC ones in the 1-2%. As far as I know the watermelon is the regular line.
Their Gushy Fruit Candy is good, but sometimes I get a slight floral offnote that seems like it shouldn’t be there. Summertime Lemonade is good, too, but I’m pretty sure they’ve added sucralose where I’d rather just add my own. I also liked Angel Cake, but I think there are better cake concentrates out there.
Seems like overall they definitely have some decent flavors, but the SC label and the price tag that accompanies it doesn’t seem like the best value.
Why aren't they more popular? Availability. Inertia. WFSC being confused with RFSC. Take your pick. Get a few really good recipes using their flavors, and people will probably pick some up, and it will self reinforce. I think I've got two or three of their flavors (BCJB for certain, because I always buy cherry flavors when I see them, just in case they turn out well. It worked well enough in a cherry candy recipe I made for a friend.
Banana Puree is the only one you listed that I've tried so far. It think it's good. It's in between a real banana and artificial to me. 2% I see it being really useful in smoothies and other fruit mixtures.
Honey Roasted peanut is very good. Tastes just as it's supposed to. However it steeped a little strangely for me. 0.50% is where I like it.. it's pretty strong.
Croissant is very nice. Again, tastes as it should. Light buttery flaky pastry. I like this one 0.50-1% in mixtures.
Crepe I only tried in a mixture but at 0.50% it added a slightly eggy pancake type note which is what I hear crepe is supposed to taste like.
Sour Blue Raspberry candy is fantastic. I think I did it at 5%
Chocolate chunks is good but I'm not sure about the name? There's nothing here that offers separation to make it "chunky". It tastes like a Hershey's syrup mixed w/ Nestle chocolate milk powder. 4%
Coconut custard is pretty good. The coconut note is almost sun-tan lotiony but the custard smooths it out to be tolerable. 2%
Peach Pie and cream is one of 2 peaches I can tolerate in vaping. All others so far give me wicked throat hit. I don't really get pie from it or even much cream. Tastes like straight up peach to me but smooth... so maybe the cream is just adding smoothness? Not sure but I like it 2%
Pistachio Ice Cream was my dad's ADV, by itself, for many months. He absolutely adores it. I personally am not thrilled by it... but whatever. If you like Vape Kitchen's pistachio ice cream, you'd probably like this because they're very similar. 2%
Ripe pear is one of the best pears I've tried. It's a bit earthy but not overly so and it's not a straight up pear juice or candy the way others are. Some are put off by the earth note but I like it. 1%
I've tried a bunch of others in SFT or in recipes but I'm not sure how I feel about them. Overall I like WF. I think they're pretty solid.
Honey Roasted Peanuts has the best honey i've tasted in vape form but it comes with a lot of peanut, do you have any tips on masking the peanuts part?
Ones I recently opted for the larger 4oz are:
Frozen Yogurt (SC): 1-3% I use mainly in ice cream recipes to boost the ice cream. Doesn’t taste like yogurt to me or no noticeable frozen attributes, but is a nice addition to cream recipes.
Sugar cone (SC): 1% or less. gives off a great sugar cone or wafer flavor. If you mix .5% sugar cone and 1-2% salube aroma waffle, it makes a great waffle cone.
Oats and cream (SC): 1-3% oatmeal cream pie with little help on the filling needed. Been recently adding the to a fruit and oat bar mix with good results.
Fluffy white cake (SC): 3-4% for cake or cupcake recipes, nice mouth feel. This is my replacement for FW yellow cake, although this is a white cake. It’s nice to coils and throat.
Lemonade (SC): 4-7% for being SC this one is somewhat weak to me and friends, but I really like the tart lemonade taste it gives. I typically add FA forest mix around 5% and 1% WS23 with this for a refreshing berry lemonade.
White fudge (SC): 1% or less. Adds a nice fullness to creams, anything above 2% gets really dry.
Recent recipe (WIP), I started working on with WF SC flavors is a Strawberry Ice Cream Cone (SICC):
2.5% Shisha strawberry - INW 1.5% strawberry - RF SC 4% VBIC - FW 2% Frozen Yogurt - WF SC .5% white fudge - WFSC 1% Waffle - SA .5% sugar cone - WF SC 1% WS23
I wish I had time to list and briefly describe all the Wonder Flavours I've tried for you. It would even be a pain to copy and paste them from my notes because my notes aren't organized by manufacturer.
But some of the ones that really stand out to me are the ones you mentioned here. Vanilla Ruyan Custard is freakin amazing. Banana Puree was the best natural banana I tried until I tried VT Banana Custard, so it's still going to be the best option for a lot of people who don't have access to VT. A major drawback to Banana Puree is the eugenol in it will start to taste mighty clove-y if you use just a little too much concentration, but it's so good as long as you don't go overboard.
Almond Cookie, Angel Cake, Fluffy White Cake, and Princess Cake are also unusually delicious.
On the other end of the spectrum, WF Milk is one of the worst flavors ever to my taste. It's foul. Ripe Galia Melon has a well-earned nickname, Butthole Melon. I'm afraid to try Saskatoon Berry because of that terribly RIPE odor that fills a room when you open it. Champagne Soda tastes like baby powder. Nanaimo Bar tastes like fake coconut mixed with fake chocolate. WF Sweetener is a chemical abomination. Many of their flavors that don't have the SC designation come pre-loaded and in my opinion over-loaded with sucralose.
All the companies have some hits and misses.
champagne soda is a real thing. We get it here in canada in these tiny sodas called "chubbys", (I never seen them when I lived in the states so don't think you guys have it there...) one of the flavors is champagne soda (which isn't near as bad as their "cream soda"....the bubblegum on the other hand is delish!). The real thing is gross in my opinion lol. I actually bought this concentrate expecting a fizzy champagne and as soon as I got it and smelled it, I realized exactly what it was modeled after, even my daughter recognized the smell. WF is a french canadian company if i recall.... no idea why they'd make a flavor after a gross soda, your comparison to baby powder is pretty spot on even for the real thing, so I guess they are on target what they were going for! LMAO
(and I HATE that they load the flavors with sweetener)
Good to know princess cake is worth a try, Ive been on the fence about that one.
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peach pie and cream is like crack, soooo good! very mild peach with a touch of creaminess, had to go high on %ge here though, like 8-9%
sour blue raspberry candy would be great if not for the nasty fake tasting overload of sweetener in it (and I like my sweets but this is even too much for me)
Saskatoon berry is actually pretty good. I used it in a raspberry- berry fro yo recipe and found it nicely rounded out the boysenberry and raspberries. Its like a dewberry which tastes very apparent on a hand test. Too high tho and it can go into perfume.(like over 2%) Also, NO sweetener added to this one which is great!
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coconut custard, frozen yogurt, glazed donut are about the best flavors you can get for those profiles, imo, they beat out even the higher priced concentrates. the donut is the only donut that I've found that doesn't taste like play doh. coco custard is just a nice thick, rich custard with a very true coco taste & frozen yogurt is in my top 20 can't live without concentrates...just like the real thing.
quince jelly & african horned cucumber are very unique and worth a try. quince is like a cross between pear and apple, horned cucumber is hard to explain, I don't have ID10-T's way with words in descriptions lol! kind like a tropical-mango-cucumber if that makes any sense...
deep fried party dough reminds me more of one of those cake glazed doughnuts, its got a hint of cake-y spice to it, its a good flavor, just not exactly what I wanted there...
croissant is good, nice and buttery for sure, haven't used it much yet, its one of those, doesn't taste great on its own, can see it being useful in allot of applications where a flaky buttery-ness is needed.
pistachio and cream, i prefer to tfa pistachio, I find it a more authentic taste nut flavor with a creamy bed to lay upon.
(agree banana puree is awesome!)
crispy wafer tastes just like the wafer cookies but like without the filling but this one does have sweetening though not a ton
grenadine is pretty decent, fairly accurate, thick, syrupy, goes well with blue raspberry & beverages though i don't think it could replace what cap hibiscus can do nor do I think its better than other pomegranates... its good but I haven't found a "can't live without" use for it yet.
hollendaise cream is not what it sounds like it'd be lol. super rich and velvety, has a touch of vanilla, a tanginess that I can't place...but its delightful!
sesame candy Im not keen on this one but it does taste like those little sesame snacks!
shortbread cookies nice and buttery, could do well in bakery or cookie recipes but then didn't they go and add sweetener. grrrr....
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sorry no detailed notes but that'd just be too long of a post. if anyone wants more details, just ask :)
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I've been finding with the ones I've tried I'm getting flavors I don't expect. Like lemon lime soda almost has something that would belong in ginger ale rather than a sprite, and the watermelon candy you mention leaves a dish soap aftertaste for me. I do use sour blue raspberry candy as a base for a blue raz candy though, and the tahitian vanilla cream to add a little something extra to cap vanilla custard. Their black cherry jelly bean is an entity all to itself, I don't recall ever tasting anything quite like it.
I have blue raz and bcjb as well. Blue Razz is pretty good , the jelly bean is weird . but I mixed some at 4% , didn't care for it . went back to it about a month later and it tasted like cherry candy , not bad at all , but I ain't got the time to steep no cherry for a month.
I just got the Peach Gummy today and tested it at 5%. Couldn't taste anything, bumped it up to 6% before it occured to me that maybe it was too much. Diluted my liquid and seems to be okay around 4%. Might try it at a lower percentage to see if that brings the flavor out more. I'm digging it - this could easily be an ADV for me!
That one is pretty strong to me 1-2% is good for me.