First of, I do apologise about asking a question that I know has been asked a few times but I am extremely busy at the moment and dont have chance to do lots of research. Over time at work, moving into new house, dealing with a stolen motorcycle etc and I am constantly in a rush. For these reasons I thought I would ask you lovely guys for advice.
I am looking for a way to shake up my liquid ( some high vg, some standard). Normally I would short fill my bottles, microwave for a few seconds and shake like mad, problem is that I have injured my elbow and also looking for a lazy way to accomplish this.
So far I am looking at one of these or a ultra sonic cleanerto shake up my plastic 60ml Chubby bottles ( Dont understand what UScleaner does to be honest)
Cheap Nail Shaker £20 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Paint-Gel-Polish-Electric-Nail-Lacquer-Varnish-Bottle-Shaker-Machine-Salon/173385440499?hash=item285e93dcf3:g:~y8AAOSwheNbNfOw
Robart Paint Shaker £6 - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Robart-Manufacturing-Shaker-Battery-Powered/dp/B001BHGHDK
Ultra sonic Cleaner £15 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/600ml-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-Ultra-Sonic-Bath-Jewellery-CD-Cleaning-Basket-Heater-UK-/263847167367
OR am I better off buying a cheap jigsaw and a quick grip thing ?
The reason I am after something like this is to help mix the juice and hopefully speed up steeping time
Thank you in advance, any alternative suggest are greatly appreciated
UPDATE: Thank you all for your responses, I have read them all and will use the advice given.
Planning on getting the magnetic stirrer back out of storage for larger batches, if anyone is planning on making or using a magnetic stirrer, remember to get food Grade magnets
I've made 2 magnetic stirrers for myself now. They're easy to make and work pretty well (though it does take a fair bit of time to put together). You can set your juice to mixing and just walk away to measure out a new batch. If you're handy and like to tinker, its a really fun project. I learned quite a bit about working with electricity and wiring from this project.
I think all told, each mixer costs me roughly 15$ to make, and probably about 3-4 hours of labor and tinkering.
All you really need is:
- a computer fan
- a power supply
- a dc motor controller, with potentiometer (potentiometer is just a dial that lets you adjust spin speed)
- 2-4 small magnets
- magnetic sir bar (buy a variety pack: size of the stir bar makes a big difference: too small won't stir well, too big won't spin at all. You'll want a few different sizes at least)
- a box
- scrap wood, couple nails / screws, glue or other adhesive
Edit: you'll probably also want some kind of beaker or flask large enough for the whole batch, so you can mix before you bottle. You can find these at many vape suppliers, nic river and nude nictone both have some available.
Fan: Pretty much any generic tower fan works, but very small fans might have trouble turning the magnet bar smoothly.
Power Supply: You need a power supply that provides the same # of Volts your fan requires, and at least as many amps as the fan needs. If my fan says 12v / .5amps, I'll need a supply that provides exactly 12v and at least .5 amps. (Most tower fans I've seen run 12v and .1-.5 amps. A 12v / 1amp power supply will probably work with almost any pc fan.)
Controller This is the dc motor controller that I've used in both my mixers. They work well and they're not super expensive (~$8.50)
Magnets You can use pretty much any magnets. Simply glue your magnets onto the middle of the fan (make sure you have one positive side and one negative side facing up, so the stir bar holds at both ends.) For my first mixer, I removed a magnet from a hard drive, and supplemented it with a magnet bar I had from an old name tag. For the second mixer, I just bought some circular neodymium magnets from home depot; they were only a few $ and saved me a lot of time breaking open the HDD.
Box I used a small plastic box from home depot's storage solutions section. Cost about 3$.
Ps: Or there's always my old solution: put 2-3 bottles in a sock, and swing it around like a sling. 45 seconds of that is usually more than enough.
I'm glad you have suggested that as I made one last year and completely forgot about it. I stopped using it as I was told that it would speed up oxidation of the nicotine and make the liquid go bad quicker.
I'm not sure if this is true as my liquid tasted fine when using it.
Will have to get it out of storage. Thanks for the reminder.
The best alternative is time. Nothing beats it for flavor in my opinion. Try to mix ahead and stagger steeps.
You still have to shake it at some point though. I usually mix 25-50 bottles once a week and that shit is rough.
Yeah that is a lot. Wow. I’m mixing 5 max.
I bet you're mixing big bottles though. I mix some big bottles of stuff I really like if I happen to be getting low on them but most of stuff I mix is actively in development and also most everything needs 1-2 months steep so I have to mix way ahead.
If you own a Sawzall, go with that. If you have a orbital sander, you can approximate a vortexor. (Hold bottle on angle, press bottom edge against upside-down sander, near the center. It should generate a miniature whirlpool inside the bottle which will mix it quickly.
Nothing speeds up steeping, tho.
I wouldn't microwave your juice tbh. Give your bottles a quick whisk with this or something like it and let time do its thing. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Norpro-Cordless-Mini-Mixer-White/dp/B000E39LYO/
I have one of those as well. It works great for mixing a bottle in a few seconds. The attachment fits perfectly into the small plastic bottles I use as well.
Most of the time I just shake by hand though because the cleanup takes a few seconds that shaking by hand does.
I recently started to mix small 30ml batches by throwing a few strands of high guage kanthal into a drill and dipping those downward into the unicorn bottle and going at it at a low speed. My drill can go super slow so it's been working nicely tbh.
Then, it's into a cool dark cabinet without fiddling for a month. Best way to steep baby!
That Sawzall trick is very interesting too. So do you just tape the bottle to the saw part?
If the noise isn't an issue the jigsaw/sawsall is the best option.
Those cheap nail/paint shakers aren't strong enough to thoroughly mix eliquid. A magnetic stirrer is good, but then you're adding more time and steps and cleaning to your mixing process. With the jigsaw you're mixing in the final bottle, not an intermediary bottle.
Ultrasonic requires a long time to mix, if it even completely mixes the solution. It also kind of forcefully causes lighter notes to escape the solution - because the bottle/liquid/air locations are static all of the volatiles are sent from the liquid to the air and are never reincorporated.
If none of those are an option, the easiest is to actually make larger batches in larger bottles, although you do end up using another bottle. So instead of 60ml in a 60ml bottle, do 220 in a 240 bottle. Since there's more dead space it's easier to shake than the smaller bottle, and you only have to shake for 15-20 seconds. I have a bum shoulder, so I have to use my non-dominant arm to shake, and it's easy enough doing it this way.
As others have said, there is no way to speed up steeping time. There was someone that did a test of speed-steeping with an ultrasonic, and it did kind of work. But if you didn't vape it right away it actually ended up being worse a few days after being put through the ultrasonic. And the light/fruit notes faded very quickly.
I have an IZEN Proshaker that works extremely well for 10-30ml bottles. It's a quality piece and not cheap, but I wouldn't be without it because it makes shaking flavoring bottles quick and effortless.
UK: PROShaker