Hello Everybody!
I've been making e-liquid since August 2013. Never had any intentions of making it into a career, I just loved doing it and became borderline obsessed. I started smoking cigarettes at 11 years old... and haven't had a cigarette since my 21st birthday when I got my first electronic cigarette from my mom lolol. Since then, I have owned multiple brands, some big winners, complete flops and everything in-between. I did freelance as well and created recipes and brands for some of biggest names in the the industry with 7,000 skus registered and submitted! A huge portion being pre August 8th, 2016 also including a little under 1,000 salt nic recipes. I am based out of Southern California, (no i do not use cap super sweet at 10% in every recipe) so I was also granted the disaster zone extension. While I was freelancing I was regularly presented with job opportunities and decided to give the corporate life a shot... Ended up quitting because we grew so fast and hired all these "suites" came in and I felt my creativity and innovation was caped. I am a lot happier now doing my own thing! I'm hear to network and help with anything DIY related, from creating your first recipe, to signing up and submitting a final FURLS/eSubmitter/CTP package. Feel free reach out, I have a lot of tricks and tips, and I hope I can help! P.S. sku count so high due to different bottle changes and component changes. Also first Reddit post so might take me a minute to figure this whole thing out.
Call me a skeptic, downvote this all you want, but we get one of these once a month, and it always turns out the same way. The poster is either found to have an alt where they posted asking for mixing help 2 months ago, or the poster dumps a list of 10 recipes ranging from absolute shit to staggeringly mediocre and gets called out and leaves the subreddit in a hissy fit because "they're too good for this."
I've been here too long to fall for the "first post, look at all the ways I'm fantastic" trick again.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Just looking at your first recipe, the percentages for the FA flavors seem crazy high to me. I use the strawberry around 3-4% and the kiwi at 3%. I can't imagine what that would taste like.
I mixed up the 22% strawberry kiwi one. Vaped a couple puffs.. now my hands are getting all tremble-y... is e-diabetes a thing? Did this guy give me #^#%&@ e-diabetes? Body is starting to shake like a rollerblader on a gravel road. #%£$ me this is definitely e-<insert clever disease here>. all motor.. functions.. are beginni:.:.:8;848:’sjflndkfo%^£}¥¥}’snejrktk%€¥}£#
Look man, I don't want to jump on the hate train here, but I feel the need to point something out. You look like a bit of a douche coming in here with recipes from 2003, then saying people can pm you for up to date recipes. Why? Just post them if you have them.
Also, the only two positive comments are from an obviously secondary account (created 2 years ago, 99 karma, also a noob mixer) and an account that is 3 months months old with four posts and negative karma...
What's the point of all this?
Since you've been in that world, here's something I've always been curious about: how does juice production on a large scale differ from what we DIYers do? (other than the obvious things like amounts, larger containers and large-scale mixing equipment, etc)
Similarly, are there any things that the big juice companies do that DIYers don't, or mistakes DIYers typically make?
Lead times from different flavor houses are a huge problem buying in bulk. But cost is the biggest hurdle. I couldn't use FLV or anything like that. Inawera is also extremely expensive. A drum of TFA Vanilla custard is $5,500 (55 gallons). A drum of Inawera Shisha Vanilla is $34,120. That's not including the wholesale discount. But I know the wholesale price of a drum of cactus straight from inawera is $17,000. That's what I meant in my original post about being "Caped"
Thanks. Got any simple 2 or 3 flavour recipes you could share with the beginners ?
Sure do!
Sweet candy flavor 70VG/30PG
Strawberry (FA) - 12%
Kiwi (FA) - 10%
Super Sweet (CAP) .5%
Blue Berry Dessert 70/30VG/PG
Oatmeal Cookie (TFA) - 8%
Blueberry (FW) - 6%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TFA) - 4%
Super simple Fruit 70/30VG/PG
Watermelon (TFA) - 14%
Strawberry (TFA) 6%*** not strawberry ripe just strawberry
Custard 70/30VG/PG
Custard V1 (CAP) - 10% (or V2 depending on your personal diacetyl preference)
Cotton Candy (TFA) - 2%
Dulce De Leche (TFA) - .5-1%
Strawberry Cake Pop 70/30VG/PG
Sweet Strawberry (CAP) - 7%
Cake Batter Dip (FW) - 4%*** contains real sugar, tastes good in my opinion but would't use it often
Damn, looks like commercial e-juice still uses carto-levels of ingredients.
I'm not even going to bother mixing any of this.
edit: are we being to hard on him?
Maybe, but this subreddit has always been merit-based approval. You prove your ability, then you tell your story. Shit, Wayne's probably the most prominent mixer in the world right now and dude was an unemployed addict before he started mixing. Doesn't matter what you did before this, what matters is if you're able to prove yourself talented.
Thank you for sharing these recipes. Do you have any good nic salt recipes for small devices that you can share?
what recipe would you recommend with these:
FA - cowboy
FA - golden rollie
FA - vanilla classic
FA - caramel
FA - fresh cream
All of the together @ 10% each /s
real helpful dude /s
In all seriousness, try a small mix (15ml maybe) of fa cowboy + golden rollie at 1-2% eachand build from there. Taste test it every few days throughout a week or two. If its too dry, add 1% of fresh cream to the next tester and repeat. Want some sweetness? 0.5-1.5% caramel to the next tester, repeat. Etc.
Honestly you could throw them all together first try keeping everything under 1-2% each and it'll likely be good, you might stumble on a nice mix! But its helpful to practice the testing process to help build better recipes in the future :)
If you enjoy ry4 type stuff, i think tfa ry4 double and/or jungle flavors ry4 double would be good to buy at some point, and definitely pick up the stuff to make Cardinal at some point. Or at least flavor shack's holy grail ry4 to mess with on your own. Widely considered the best singular ry4 flavor.
I've mixed Caramel and Fresh Cream before and it was pretty good but needed some more work in the cream department. Adding FA Vienna Cream would help the mix as well.
I don't have any of the other flavors you mentioned so I can't really say for any of those.
Just mixed up the 22% strawberry kiwi. Hands are now all tremble-y... is e-diabetes a thing? Did this guy just give me $&##%& e-diabetes? Whole body shaking now.. it’s shaking like a damn rollerblader on a gravel road. He’s definitely given me a serious case of the e- (insert clever disease here).... all motor... function...beginni...784&;’dkek$@;&))&&!;g$&!>%<
These are simple recipes that were created around 2013 so yes the flavor percentages were made for ego-c twist type vapes. If somebody would like a 2017 recipe please send me a private message and I will be happy to provide. And yes being in the commercial E-liquid world, these where the type of recipes coming out. And everyone was limited to extracts based on lead times and the flavor house's ability to produce the quantities. Everyone was making the same thing at the same time. No harm no foul I understand lolol. I'll post a recipe I'm working on right now.
Provide them here. Why would anyone one obsolete recipes?
It might seem unwelcoming, but as I stated, we get a post similar to this regularly. This subreddit is very much merit-based, you get all the respect you earn. As of now, all we've seen is a backstory that very well may be just blowing smoke up our asses, and some vivi nova era recipes. Show us some good shit, make your fuckin' mark here, and you'll get shown some love.
Ignore the haters man cool to see you drop these flavors always awesome to see different angles on any recipe can be inspiring thanks for sharing!
appreciate it. I just responded to the first notification I saw. Beginner recipes 2-3 flavors each, went back in the archives to when I was using recipes under 5 extracts at a time and here they are lol.
Lol getting some sweet down votes for being encouraging. Watch out for the snobs on here if you don’t do a five page write up on the flavors you use and keep it under ten percent they will think your a moron. There are some cool people on here though and a great source of knowledge helped me a shit ton. Appreciate you trying to be helpful to the community.