Sooo - How are you all? Glad you tuned in for my Vampire Vapes Heisenberg Odyssee.
Yes, I'm still onto it. I'm working on this clone since I'm vaping. That's depressingly long...
All started with a bad experience in a vape shop and I promised myself, I would not want to continue business with this company - this company happened to be Vampire Vapes.
On the other hand I'm glad I made it into the DIY-Ejuice world because of them - so maybe I should actually be thankful?
Without further life-lessons from a weird german kid my recipe:
Flavor | Percentage ---|--- Anise INW|0.5% Blackcurrant INW|2% Koolada INW|0.5% Black Fruit Mint INW|1% Red Fruits and Mint INW|11%
That's it. No damn blueberries to be seen or tasted in here - just the blue food color leading us on.
That is as close as it has to be for me - maybe I got some of the minor percentages mixed up - but this is basically Heisenberg.
I mix Heisenberg at 15% in a 50/50 base, because I only vape MTL at the moment. I sadly couldn't try it in a low ohm setup and would be glad if someone could verify my mix for me.
Notes:
Anise INW has a slight tingling effect on my lips, I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this. But I don't get this sensation with Licorice INW or any other Anise (tried FA, TFA, FW) - And I get it in Heisenberg too. At this percentage it's a bit tricky, because you don't always get the full-on Anise hit in every vape. You have this slightly dark taste lingering after you took a hit and the Koolada wears down.
Blackcurrant INW is giving a sweet-sourness (red?) to the mix. I taste it more when drinking the liquid (not a full glass, just a drop) but it creates a bridge between all the other flavors in this mix.
Koolada INW could be any other brand, I just had it on hand. Everyone notices the cool start and finish of Heisenberg as one of the first impressions. Also it acts as a slight flavor enhancer, making the berries brighter in themselves.
Black Fruit Mint INW is the flavor that makes you hate or love Heisenberg - you either recognize it as a toilet freshner OR as part of the Heisenbergs unique taste. On it's own this flavor is unbelievable floral - I tried it at 5% and couldn't bear it. The Mint in this one is not very strong, but noticeable.
Red Fruits and Mint INW is the main flavor of Heisenberg. I can't describe it on it's own, because it is a mix of berries? Seriously, you have to try it. The Mint part in this is perfectly balancing out the sweetness.
What's next? Maybe I can stop vaping and mixing now...
Le fin.
Links to posts before: First Second Third
Special thanks: /u/Ernie_is_dead
Edit:
> Red Fruits and Mint INW 11%
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I've never tried the flavor, but I'd almost bet 11% of anything INW is going to be weird.
You did it man. I second that this is the closest Heisenberg clone ever created.
Mixed this up about an hour after you posted this.
I was the one who said I don't think Red Fruits were in there, I stand corrected. I tried it at 3% that time, which was obviously way to low.
Congratulations, you successfully caught a white whale!
Thanks so much, mad props to you! Now to make Pinkman and Blood Sukka :P
Edit:
I did the side by side in 2 entheons, and I say it's about 98% there, which is the closest anyone will ever get probably.
The remaining 2% could be even the tinyest differences.
Thanks for stepping up and comparing for me :). And it’s cool to see I could convince you with my recipe, I think many wouldn’t have given me and my recipe another chance :).
In a few weeks, when I get bored again I might start another chase for a white Wale- after all I collected about 500 flavors total and I have about 70% of the inawera collection. Should be hiding somewhere in there ;)...
> Now to make Pinkman
I already did. That's why I somehow knew that they probably use all Inawera, always.
Care to share the recipe?
Hmm yes sure, I already did 2-3 times :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/8bqpof/best_all_day_vape_recipes/dxbgf5t/
No one cares, I am not one of the boyz :)
It is a bit less sweet actually than Pinkman, but we all know how to solve that...the Cotton Candy in the recipe can be any Ethyl Maltol, makes no difference.
These flavors are like impossible to find from US sellers, the only option is from INW them self, ohh well...
I’m sorry :( but I think gremlin had most of them last time I checked
I think VapersTek stocks INW flavors, if you can't find them from Bull City
I've just ordered some 10mls of these flavours to give this a try. I don't vape Heisenberg myself as I can't stand menthol in any vapes.
But the wife, step daughter & mate all vape nothing else & I'm sick of having to buy in bulk when VV have an offer on because it's so expensive.
Thanks for your efforts & I'll update once mixed & tested by the missus.
Any steep needed? I imagine not being mainly fruits?
It’s the same as the concentrate, shake and vape ready. The pre mixed juice is around 15-17% flavor total, just adjust the flavor total to your liking.
For the vlad edition heisenberg - no ice - you have to leave out the koolada and mix at 70/30 vg. It get’s a tad sweeter because of the vg, but that’s it. Thanks for your help :)
Edit: Actually, you can just mix the concentrate in here: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavorbase/2493944
Have you done a side by side comparison? I can't afford premium e-liquid, but I bet I may scrape up enough for these flavors if you think its close. I'll have to go try it at my local juice bar :)
Thanks for your time on this, I know you worked long and hard.
For any die-hard Heisenberg fans in the UK. Check out J&L Chemicals. They do a conc that's basically identical minus the colouring called Halo-Berri.
Minimum order is 1kg though so you have to love the stuff really.
Think it's about 60 quid delivered.
this has been awesome to follow. nice to see you're very sure you've nailed it.
No sarcasm intended, but do you think the difference in flavor may be due to the food coloring?
Actually I didn't think of this. It could mean a slightly sweeter note because most food colorings are sugar based... But I'm not sure.
I think the small difference is somewhere in the half-percentage range. But it's hard to figure out when it's only a nuance. It was close enough to fullfill my craving for this flavor and am happy to help others out :)
Edit: To add on that I think it's a psychological effect. Seeing this color we alle associate a different taste with it.
> Special thanks: /u/Ernie_is_dead
Oh thank you, very kind of you. Glad you finally made it and happy that I was some sort of help!
Big thumbs up for your determination!
Thanks :). Hit me up if you want a 30ml of my mix, if postage is not too expensive I will send you one with or without nic :)
Very kind offer, really appreciated! I will mix it up myself, less hassle :)
The dumb thing is: I literally ordered from Inawera 30 minutes before reading your post. And I actually don't have black fruit mint :/ But I will get it.
We were actually talking about it in the last thread and I gave it a crushing review, remember?
Cancel your order and reorder everything :D
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Seeing this comment/ upvote/ downvote chain makes me so happy. Good on you man!
Also thank you so much for this. I don’t fuck with menthol but paying £5 for 10ml pre mixed is outrageous, I’m going to have some happy friends
Man, let me tell you - I am exhausted. Chasing a unicorn for years kills you slowly. I’m happy if there is still interest in my journey, but I would have finished this one even if it took 5 more years.
Glad to help out, but I also understand the business side of this. Paying for employees is expensive.
You can leave out the koolada, but there really is no menthol in it. The minty taste and the kollada recreate the menthol without this distinct funny taste menthol has.