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Weekly General Questions AND New Mixers Thread - Week of June 18, 2018
submitted over 7 years ago by AutoModeratorBootylicious

OK mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by recoil_rewickover 7 years ago

How do you mix salt nics higher then 30mg. The only nicotine salt concetrate to buy avaiable I can find is 72mg. If I'm about to use 72 mg whats your suggestion of highest possible mix that I can get away with?

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by kindgroundover 7 years ago

Nic salts in PG or VG? If in PG it's going to have to be a high PG mix. Like 40vg/60pg....or worse.

EDIT: unless of course you get VG based nic. It's a pain to work with. Shake the crap out of it before measuring or you'll get hotspots.

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Depends. What base is the salts? What's the amount of PG you're comfortable with? How much flavor in the recipes you want to mix? Given that info, I could easily work out what the most nic you could use would be. Without it... impossible to say.

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by recoil_rewickover 7 years ago

Pg base salts with about 10% flavorings. I can use calculator myself but I'm fairly new to diy and i don't know if can use nicotine instead of my pg in the mix. Does it gonna affect flavor? Sorry if my english is a bitt poor. Cheers!

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by kindgroundover 7 years ago

Simply put, yes you can use the pg content of your nic as total pg content of finished juice.

Calculators like used at ATF take into consideration your nicotine's PG content when you make a mix.

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Well, given those specs... 14.4mg/ml would give you a 70/30 VG ratio. I wouldn't want to go any higher than that (and even that would be uncomfortable for me... I usually use a PG alternative if I'm mixing less than 80% VG.)

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by F3der4L420over 7 years ago

Hello,

I would kill for some good recipes for mojito. I'm new to the mixing more than one flavour and I wanna mix me some mojito jucie

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Uh... you realize there's a fair number of mojito flavorings? One note - avoid FW Blackberry Mojito. It's not a flavor meant for vaping, it contains actual sugar.

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by comedian42over 7 years ago

How would one go about boosting muted flavors in a Max VG / Full VG recipe?

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by Bassmuttover 7 years ago

The easiest answer is bump everything up a percent or so.
Maybe if you don't have any sweetner in it already , add a few drops of super sweet.
For fruit mixes , a little lemon could help lift up the other flavors a bit.
Would help more if I knew the recipe.

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by ButteringToastover 7 years ago

Lemon? Really? Thanks for the tip!

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

It depends on the recipe.

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by Reedit2kover 7 years ago

I have the Watermelon flavor from Lorann, of course is a red one. Is this "save" to vape because the colors?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoMixologist

That’s up to you to decide. The jury is out on that one, but I wouldn’t want food dye in my juice

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by ironfairyover 7 years ago

I threw mine right out and now only use the vendor I bought it from for flavors not on BCF.

The colorless version feels so much better to be using, course that's just in my head.

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years agoKooky

True I don’t think I want food dye in my vapes either but idk for sure...HOWEVER, Inawera does sell color for vapes.. the site doesn’t really say what it is but it makes me feel much better about any colored liquids, except Lorann because they have notoriously essential oils mixed in w their flavors... so just be careful w Loranns and just get ones that have always been used tried and true. Honestly, it’s only my personal opinion, but they’re not exactly cheap flavors and there are so many better or equally good options now I don’t ever even look at Loranns anymore.. they haven’t done anything like the rest of the industry to try and cater to us or improve and do better... have they? Idk maybe maybe not but still too many w essential oils or oil based for food I guess idk, and newbs aren’t knowing better and that could be bad.. that make sense?

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

It's most likely safe. There's nothing about red food coloring that's obviously dangerous... I don't know if it'll taste any better or worse than the colorless...

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by lovecomplexover 7 years ago

Getting ready to put in my first order at Nic River, wondering if I'm missing anything, or if I should skip anything I have on my list:

PurNic™ 100mg Smooth Nicotine Salts 150ml / Propylene Glycol / 100mg
100ml Borosilicate Beaker
Syringe Combo, Is it practical to try and use these for measuring?
Propylene Glycol 240ml
Vegetable Glycerin 500ml
Various Bottles
Various flavors, enough to make one clone that I liked, and some other flavors that sound good / useful.

TIA!

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoMixologist

I’d say ditch the beaker and order a scale

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by lovecomplexover 7 years ago

I was planning on measuring with the syringes. Was just looking into scales a little bit too though.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoMixologist

If you wait to mix with a scale, you’ll regret doing it sooner

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by coop34over 7 years ago

I cant link right now, but search this site for "botboys guide to mixing by weight". Old one but good one. There are prob some videos around too if that helps.

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by lovecomplexover 7 years ago

Do you have to determine the weight of each ingredient first?

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Use atf (or one of the lesser calxulators) and the weights of your bases will be generated for you. And you just use 1g/ml for flavors, like everyone else.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoMixologist

No.

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years agoKooky

I say 1 gal of pg and 2 1/2 gal of vg is perfect and exactly $50 and free shipping...;)

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

So... specialized question - anyone who has experience with Flavor Monks gin... just how worth it is it? I'd havery to try and source them somewhere otherwise, and I'd probably go nutty and buy a dozen or more flavors at once just to cut the unit price (after shipping) so I'd kinda like to avoid that... but I found a gin drink I really want to turn into a juice flavor...

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by kindgroundover 7 years ago

u/ConcreteRiver has flavor reviews up for a couple of them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5qyje4/flavormonks_gin_tonic

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5pr9b3/flavourmonks_pure_gin/

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Yeah... I remember seeing reviews. I was more hoping for a second opinion.

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by kindgroundover 7 years ago

Sorry. Just trying to help. I hate spirits with flavor, so I'm not your man. I drank vodka for effect without taste.

Good Belgian beer is an entirely different story though.

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by fackyuuover 7 years ago

I dont have many spare plastic 30ml bottles for mixing and experimenting. I find that sometimes i don't mix as much because i avoid the cleaning process, where i rinse each bottle over and over. Once i tried soaking them in soapy water and that just ruined them. Im paranoid if i dont clean them out enough that it will hurt the next mix.

Am i being overly cautious? Are there any simple ways to clean out old plastic bottles so there are free of residue or do i just need to bite the bullet and order a shit ton of bottles to mix with? (Never do because of the very long delivery time to se asia)

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by automaticfailureover 7 years ago

I tried the whole cleaning a reusing thing, became a pain in the ass. I would eventually break off the tips and the bottle would become useless.
Bite the bullet. It's way easier that way. Otherwise, switch to glass bottles as they are easier to clean and don't hold on flavors like plastic does, abit costing more upfront.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoMixologist

You can’t really clean out LDPE bottles. They absorb flavor too much. I’ve tried reusing them after cleaning them twice in my mixing lifetime, and both times the juices were ruined.

If you want to reuse bottles, get glass ones. Otherwise, buy a bunch of plastic ones knowing they will be a one-time use.

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by fackyuuover 7 years ago

Thanks, gonna try some of the other suggestions here but will probably just try to find a good price on a big bag of bottles

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by leapinglabratsover 7 years ago

I'm going against the grain here, but I've reused the same LDPE bottles for more than three years and not once have I noticed residual smells imparting any flavor on the next mix. All I do is fill them up with hot tap water and let sit for a moment, then rinse a few times with cold water, then let air dry. Storing the bottles without the caps helps reduce some of the smells that inevitably stick to the plastic until next time you use them. But to each his own, I don't question other peoples experiences, I'm just telling you mine.

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by fackyuuover 7 years ago

Thanks a lot for the info, going to try this method along with some putting a little alcohol into the hot water

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by DenialFlashover 7 years ago

In my experience, there are some flavours that will never come out--grape, mint/menthol and coffee for example-- but generally I haven't had any problems with residual smell, and I re-use my bottles a lot.

Here's what I've found works: Soak them overnight in warm water and vinegar. Rinse them out well and let them dry off. No soap though!

Give it a try before you give up :)

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by fackyuuover 7 years ago

Going to try this, thanks a lot!

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years agoKooky

Are u in China and it takes forever for delivery 😩😂? Sorry my geography sucks

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by lNTERLINKEDover 7 years agoI did not ask for this flair.

Try mixing a small amount of isopropyl alcohol (or vodka) into water and rinsing your bottles with that. Works far better than just hot water.

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by fackyuuover 7 years ago

yeah thanks a lot going to combine alcohol with the hot water

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by [deleted]over 7 years ago

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by Fury_7over 7 years ago

Mixed the popular HoneyDEWWEY: A Boba Remix recipe and let it steep for a week. I tried it as a snv and it was amazing. Figured it would get better after the steep but now there's almost no more flavor. I didn't let it breath, heat steep or anything like that. Shook it up and let it sit in my closet. What's the deal? Followed exact recipe, nic, vg and pg from liquid barn. 1,5mg nic 30ml mix 70/30 vg/pg.

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by leapinglabratsover 7 years ago

It could be the sweetener that mutes the flavor, perhaps it just took a while to kick in.

I didn't reply since I'm not a fan of melon and haven't used them much, so I can only speculate that these flavors might fade a bit over time. And sometimes flavors seem a lot stronger right after a mix because they haven't blended in yet. Check out the flavor reviews in the sidebar to see if it's mentioned.

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by name_-_lessover 7 years ago

I'm looking for a watermelon flavour: Big Mouth Watermelon Sour Rings vs Capella Double Watermelon?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoMixologist

I prefer CAP Sweet Watermelon

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years agoKooky

I never had the other one but it looks great I say get both can’t go wrong w watermelon..:))

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by AKR3881over 7 years ago

So I just picked up INW Pear (also have FA and TFA, though I hate TFA). ELR doesn't have much for this flavor but the sub seems to love it. Does anyone have any suggestions for summery/fruity (non bakery) mixes? I love actual pears but I'm yet to have a fruity pear vape turn out well.

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by leapinglabratsover 7 years ago

Hello, sorry for the late reply! It's a great flavor, I don't have anything to recommend, but here are the flavor notes from the sidebar: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5yxsv8/inw_pear/

And this page lists 37 recipes that uses it: https://alltheflavors.com/flavors/inawera-pear

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by fackyuuover 7 years ago

Is INW Biscuit kind of like a custard flavor? I added 2% to my RY4/AP mix and I think I'm enjoying it, but sometimes i get this off taste that reminds me of Cap VC1 which (unfortunately) I really disliked when i tried it.

Gonna add a little tfa vanilla swirl to try and offset this.

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by ChemicalBurnVictimover 7 years agoresident tobacco expert

2% seems a bit high in my opinion. If the vanilla swirl can get you through the batch you have mixed now, next time maybe try it at .5%.

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by fackyuuover 7 years ago

Ok i'll try it lower next time, it might not have been exactly 2% because i was experimenting with only 7ml of my ry4 mix, and i added 4 drops of the INW biscuit. I added 3 drops vanilla swirl and its pretty good.

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years agoKooky

It’s not like a custard it’s like a biscuit and their custard like a custard and unless you’re in UK where u guys like ALOT OF FLAVOR most of Ina flavors are .5 starting work your way up you can always add can’t subtract... UK I guess start at 2 and work your way up 😬

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by OctaVariuM8over 7 years agoYellow Cake Apologist

Anyone have a good guideline for a cinnamon bun flavor? I made one years ago but lost my notes. I was thinking something like:

CAP Sugar Cookie (4%ish)

FW Hazelnut (1-2%)

FW Joy (maybe like. 50%)

FLV Rich Cinnamon (0.5%, to taste)

Not sure what else. I don't have a cream cheese frosting flavor really. I have quite a few flavors in my collection, so I'm all ears!

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by SteamRoomVapingover 7 years ago

FLV Rich Cinnamon .25%

CAP Sugar Cookie 2%

RF Bread Pudding 1.5%

WF Vanilla Cream Extra 1.5%

Thank me later :)

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoMixologist

CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl

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by gonda522over 7 years ago

Hey guys!

I'm in Hungary and I have a lot of trouble finding nic bases online. Any suggestions?

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by leapinglabratsover 7 years ago

If your country has adapted to the TPD, you're limited to 20 mg/ml, should be obtainable domestically. If you're willing to gamble with customs, pink-mule should ship at least.

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years agoKooky

I was just looking on Inaweras site and they have bases o plenty... I’m mad they cost too much for me to order from US.. unless they don’t then I’m ordering for sure..

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by gazzycheshabout 7 years ago

Hi Gonda, I use Lucemill in Scotland as I live in the UK. I've no idea how much shipping will be, probably horrendous but you might be able to ask your chemist to order you some bottles of PG/VG. I know that isn't much information but I hope it helps all the same.

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by ironfairyover 7 years ago

Is FA - Red Touch (strawberry) the same thing as FA - Strawberry?

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years agoKooky

Hmmm... gonna say no bcuz I have both but I may be wrong. Probably best way to find out is go on their site and now that I remember when I was there and there was no distinction I have to say they’re the same. Thoroughly confused 😩😂, for clarification I’m saying yes they’re the same...;)

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by Bassmuttover 7 years ago

Yes I think bull city relabels it as just strawberry.

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years agoKooky

Can’t find the new one so hope someone is here, haaa. Ok, I was on Inawera’s site and why are their flavors 1300zl and that’s over $300 and change US dollars lol ...what am I missing? 1 flavor lol ffs! And can someone tell me where to get all the flavors the whole Ina website has in USA plzz specifically the black currant, black berries n mint, red berries n mint, anise, pink panther, pineapple, Mississippi, and more but at the very least those if anyone knows and more in the range of $3-6 a 10ml 🤑...;)

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by Admiralfoxover 7 years ago

Hey all,

I'm super new to vaping in general. I found a juice that I really love called Ghostberry. After sampling a 30ml bottle I decided to go all in to a 100ml bottle of it, bought from the company's website. Unfortunately I must have made a mistake in purchasing it as I received a 0mg bottle of it instead of the 3mg concentration I need. So sorry if this is a dumb question but since the site I ordered it from does not do exchanges, can I just add nic to my bottle to make it as it should be? Or can you not do that to premade juices?

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by daemotabout 7 years ago

I'm also super new, but go to http://www.steam-engine.org/juice.html and see the how you can alter the juice.

But i think it boils down to adding some nicotine to it, and depending on the strength mg/ml of the shot, the PG or VG of the shot eg. if the shot is 100mg/ml 50/50 PG/VG and the juice is 50/50 VG/PG you have to add 3ml of nicotine shot and hope it doesn't alter it too much. But if your liquid is other PG/VG ratio or the shot is pg only consult steam-engine

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by MTLianabout 7 years ago

Yes you can. As long as you haven't already vaped some of the ejuice you can use an eliquid calculator to determine how much to add to get your desired Nic strength. Be aware of the following: 100mg Nicotine is a very dangerous poison so using gloves and safety glasses is recommended when mixing. Nicotine can be absorbed in the skin so you can poison yourself quite badly, avoid getting Nicotine concentrate on your bare skin at all costs. If you don't want to buy specialised gloves, dish washing gloves can do just fine and they have long protective sleeves. Depending on the carrier (VG or PG), nicotine can be hard to mix. I cut a wood barbecue skewer in three equal pieces and fix them in the chich of a drill and mix in the bottle that way. If you try and mix in the original bottle, it might be near impossible since the bottle is most likely filled to the top so you'd have to think of transfering it carfully in a sterile container. Once mixed, you could load the excess in a tank and pour the rest back into the bottle. If you had a small funnel, it could make it easier. Good luck. I use e liquid recipes website as a mixing calculator. If you have a food scale handy, I strongly recommend mixing by weight rather than volume. It is much more accurate in my experience.

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