I am still struggling to find a cheesecake base that works for me. Any comments and ideas are really appreciated. I'm going for a realistic, dense, cheesy authentic cheesecake base. Cheese being the operative word - everything I've made comes out tasting good but it's just not cheesecake.. more of a dense thick buttery cream.
I know people have thrown some ideas at me in threads and in messages but I feel like I'm at a loss. I feel like I've tried next to everything to try and get a cheesecake base down but they all come out tasting like a thick dense cream. I'm still missing that actual cheesey cheesecake taste. Any ideas to point me in the right direction would be appreciated as I've been working on this for months.
I've tried TFA cheesecake 1-2%, TFA cheesecake gc 2-6% , cap ny cheesecake 4-6%, la cheesecake 2-4%, fw cheesecake 4-6%, inw yes we cc 1-2%, flv cheesecake 1-2%, ooo vanilla custard cheesecake 1-3% and a few others.
I've tried flv brie .2-1%.
I've tried fa yogurt 1-2%, flv greek yogurt 1-2%, cap creamy yogurt 1-3%.
I've tried la cream cheese icing .5-1.5%, cap sweet cream 1-3%, TFA sweet cream 1-4%, hs Italian cream .5-3%, TFA/la Bavarian cream 1-3%.
I've used lots of different combinations of these together but I'm still not quite there.
Nothing seems to hit that thick dense cheesy cream. Maybe Im overthinking it but I'm about to give up. I have a store bought just called cobalt that is a strawberry cheesecake and it tastes like a straight thick cheesy slice so I know it's possible. I'm at a loss and any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks!.
7% TFA Cheesecake Graham Cracker Crust + 4% TFA Greek Yogurt + 3% TFA Dairy/Milk is thick as hell through a clapton or framed staple build. Just add in 6% TFA Ripe Strawberry OR 6% TFA Blueberry Candy and reach heaven!
You know I've been thinking about reaching for dairy milk. At that high of a percentage does it get cheesy? Have you tried flv Greek yogurt? How does that compare to tfa? Thanks for the advice!
I own all of the flavors I listed and I just switch between Strawberry and Blueberry in 450ml batches in those exact percentages. The greek yogurt is nice and thick and rounds out the cheesecake graham cracker crust perfectly. At 7% you get more graham cracker crust than cheesecake and it's perfect with the TFA Dairy/Milk. The Dairy/Milk gets caramel tones as it steeps and I personally love it. I'm going to be honest here and tell you if you follow the exact percentages I put with the bluberry candy option you've essentially made One Hit Wonder's "Rocket Man"! I just substitute for strawberry every other time so I don't get tired of it.
EDIT: My bad thought you were asking if I owned those flavors, just saw you asked about FLV. I do not use any flavors besides TFA because I have a bulk/wholesale account with them.
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Just ordered all these thanks!
If you grabbed strawberry hopefully you grabbed the "Ripe" version! I have Ripe and normal and while they're both great, there's just a little bit more flavor in the Ripe version.
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- CAP new York cheesecake 6%
- CAP SL biscuit 2%
- TFA cheesecake Graham crust 2%
- TFA whipped cream 4%
Add chosen fruit/flavour and steep for a couple of weeks
Yeah that should be a pretty good base. I prefer a higher amount of TPA Cheesecake GC and less CAP NY Cheesecake, and I use 1 - 1.5% of either INW Biscuit or FA Cookie instead of the CAP Biscuit, but otherwise this is pretty much the same as the cheesecake base I find myself using a lot.
Maybe also play around with the cream a bit. A bit of FA Vienna Cream alongside less of the TPA Whipped Cream can work well. Sometimes I'll use some LA Cream Cheese Icing or FA Catalan Cream instead of the others too. There's definitely a lot of options in the cream department, but I've found great use of all the creams mentioned in a wide variety of recipe types.
GRANITE, I too have quested hard for 'the cheesecake'. What I am sitting here vaping right now is the best i have come up with. After many many many previous attempts. Things to note: Yes there is no CAP NY CC - yes there are no creams - yes it seems over-complicated. Here is my base, combined with the holy trinity of blueberry.
- TFA Blueberry Extra 4%
- FW Blueberry 3%
- FA Bilberry 0.75%
- TFA Cheesecake (Graham Cracker) 4.5%
- LA Cheesecake 2%
- FW Graham Cracker 1%
- INW Shisha Vanilla 1%
- CAP Vanilla Custard 0.5% (this cunt will destroy everyone in the gym if he isn't reined right in at 0.5%)
- FA Liquid Amber 0.35%
I vape this MTL @ 11mg 60/40. To me, it is very close to perfect. Of course, we don't all taste the same things.
[edit: steep for at least 1 week]
I'll whip this one up and see how it goes, I'm willing to try anything. This looks pretty good and I feel LA cheesecake is stellar. I also have been using FW GC and Shisha Vanilla in my most successful attempt so I'm pretty sure those two are here to stay for me as well. Why the liquid amber? Jammy berries? Thanks for the ideas bud!
Yep the LA Cheesecake is the key for us folk that like the slightly bitey twang in a cheesecake. I found that 2.5% is the roof otherwise it tends to dominate. Brought it back to 2% in this one. We must have similar taste buds - after trying lots of different flavs for the base (FA Cookie, INW Biscuit/CAP Sugar Cookie the list goes on and on) I settled on FW Graham Cracker as being the taste I was trying to replicate, it just has the right flavour - and @ 1% it seems to be spot on. Exactly the same goes for the Shisha Vanilla - and it's the perfect vanilla here. And you're right about the FA Liquid Amber, it's there for jamminess, but I swear it's doing other marvellous things here as well.
It's so tempting to reach for the milks, creams and Vanilla Bean Ice Creams when coming up with a cheesecake recipe. That's where I kept getting derailed. The end result is often a lot of 'same-iness' where you get buttery gloopy mess with delineated (or no) layering.
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Interestingly, after more steeping (about 2-3 weeks in total) the CAP NY Cheesecake version tastes much better than it did - whereas the TFA Cheesecake (Graham Cracker) version seems to have faded/diminished in flavour.
I'm going to continue my cheesecake explorations. I'll be trying to source FLV Cheesecake and INW Yes Oui Cheesecake. I'll also be taking chink_t's comments (above) on board, and boosting my TFA CCGC up to 7% and using the TFA Greek Yoghurt. Also going to try out the holy blueberry trinity up at 5%, 4% and 1% in different mixes..
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To me, 4-5% Capella ny cheesecake v2 tastes exactly like the cheesecake I make. The cheese is there, a Philadelphia hint pretty much, and doesn't get covered by my supporting cream and vanilla. About a 3 week steep did just find for me. I don't expect it to stand up to strong fruits unless you steep it until the fruit starts to fade.
I don't have v2, but my most successful base right now uses it at 4% so that's where I've landed for now.
Have you tested v1 and v2? Is there a large difference in your opinion ?
I have no idea. I just picked up a shit load of v2s thinking they can't be that bad. Might try and smash them off this week in all fairness. All 30ml bottles XD
I don't think they're bad. It's just a pain in the dick to make sure that they've steeped long enough. Your first time with each is most definitely a test every week to see where you land.
I made a simple sugar cookie with all v2 (8% sugar cookie, 4% vanilla custard I think) and it tasted like straight stomach acid for a month, then like Apple juice for month 2. Then the third month I was either desensitized to it or it turned out really nice. Might make that again this weekend too.
What do you consider "authentic cheesecake taste"? Different cheesecake recipes and the resaulting final taste are as varied as eliquid recipes.
I use cap ny cheesecake @ 4% plus cap french vanilla @ 2%. Will vape that by itself or sometimes add a few percent of lemon or raspberry.
As somebody who has baked a few cheesecakes, I find it is the closest to the taste of the batter made by the cheesecake recipe I use. Especially since I also use a bit of cap french vanilla in my actual cheesecakes.
Pick up the Purilum cheesecakes. I like them a LOT.
I heard the NY is good, hows the graham crust?
Both are great, haven't had a chance to taste them as single flavors but used both in a boysenberry cheesecake mix and it's probably the best cheesecake base I've had so far.
Used NY at 2.5% and Graham crust at 1.5, pretty good
well I grabbed the NY pur, but didn't grab the graham. Im thinking now that maybe I should have but I'm sitting on a large amount of TFA CCGC already - are they much different? Thanks for the suggested percentages Im excited to try out the NY CC I've heard good things.
Maybe clarify, do you talk about a New York Cheesecake style Cheesecake made with cream cheese or the european/german version made with Soft white cheese/cottage cheese.
Pretty certain it's NY cheesecake style being talked about. And yeah, the INW YW cheesecake is the eastern European style, so it might seem like a odd choice, but...
You are correct, NY style. Although I've had pretty good success with inw ywcc . It works really well between 1.5-2% like was suggested in my last thread as a backup to another cheesecake concentrate. It has good body and a nice graham note kind of similar to tfa ccgc. I'm just having most of issues achieving a discernable amount of cheese and sour twang alongside the body and graham.
If you need cheesy chessecake buy chessecake from www.maiart.pl from poland its fu#!=/g goood Only need 1.5%
Mixing cap NYCC with RF cheesecake and TFA CCGC and some fa fresh cream can give you a very cheesy cheesecake
Thanks for the tip, actually haven't played with RF. Just picked it up!
What %s have you used RF cheesecake at? This stuff seems super potent
3-5% VG version, 0.5-1.5% SC version. It changes drastically after a couple weeks though. Tones down a lot
Have you tried the DIYorDie Vanilla Bean Cheesecake recipe? It's pretty solid: https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/73142