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I will no longer be selling these mixes in a few weeks time, so here they are for anyone to add to their calculator and mix up.
I will not be answering substitution questions because imo no subs should be made. minimal notes about steeping are added, if no steep notes then its a shake & vape.
thanks ya'll, I love you and I love reddit!
Cinnamon Roll: 3 day steep
Notes: I saw a lot of tricks on how to make a good cream cheese icing base. holy v, CCI and meringue are doing that here. LA CCI does a lot of the heavy lifting, creamy and sweet icing. The touches of holy vanilla and meringue are just here to keep that icing kind of separate from the baked good, make it feel like its sitting on top.
My first versions of this did not include CAP cinnamon Danish but I felt it needed just a slight kick up in cinnamon, rather than take the chance of using too much Rich Cinnamon, I added CAP CDS. Sugar cookie, yellow cake and butter make up the buttery bakery base for this delicious blend.
I think you can take either of these bases and adapt them into something new.
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0.25% (TPA) Butter
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0.5% (CAP) Cinnamon Danish Swirl
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2% (LA) Cream Cheese Icing
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0.25% (DFS) Holy Vanilla
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0.5% (FA) Meringue
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0.3% (FLV) Rich Cinnamon
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1.5% (RF) Sugar Cookie – SC
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2% (JF) Yellow Cake
Waffles 3 day steep
Notes: a common trend in many of my mixes is to take one really good flavor and just accent it with a couple others flavors. You can see that here with LB Belgian waffle. Its a very good standalone waffle flavor. I added FLV caramel and FA maple to really punch up and bring the maple to the forefront. LB Belgian is also buttery but a nice dollop of TPA butter leaves that buttery aroma down low in the mix, especially noticeable after a steep. Yellow cake and cereal 27 just add those finishing touches to what is already a damn good waffle. Cereal 27 is one of those missing link flavors that is so versatile. Just a touch here and we're adding that toasty flavor to the waffle base.
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4.2% (LB) Belgian Waffle
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0.6% (TPA) Butter
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1% (FLV) Caramel
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1.5% (CAP) Cereal 27
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1% (FA) Maple Syrup
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1.5% (JF) Yellow Cake
pumpkin spice donut - steep 5-7 days
This one was pretty easy. I tasted FLV pumpkin spice and the obvious thought to me was DONUTS. FA zeppola is the people's champion of donuts.
FA apple pie is just a nice accent to the pumpkin spice, you wont taste apples at his % but the combo tastes like fall.
Hazelnut and Vanilla ice cream are just here to meld everything and bring a creamy finish. you can use any VBIC flavor here. my favorites are LB and FW. The recipe is not overtly creamy and hazelnut just plays so nicely with so many things... it just made sense to throw it in here.
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1% (FA) Apple Pie
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0.7% (FW) Hazelnut
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0.7% (FLV) Pumpkin Spice
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1.6% (LB) Vanilla Ice Cream
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4% (FA) Zeppola
RY4 - best after 2 weeks
Another example of one flavor being so damn good and just getting a little assistance. JF Ry4 double is my only choice when it comes to RY4. It just tastes good, nothing off about it and you don't need more than 3% in just about any mix. Milk and honey accentuates the dark tones of the RY4, Holy vanilla brings a brightness to the vanillas in RY4D. Lastly, vanilla pudding was just thrown in on a whim and it worked really damn well. The longer it steeps the more complex the aroma becomes
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1% (DFS) Holy Vanilla
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0.25% (FLV) Milk & Honey
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3% (JF) RY4 Double
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0.75% (FLV) Vanilla Pudding
Raspberry Pomegranate -- this is a very love it or hate it flavor. let it steep.
This was the result of me trying to make a pomegranate forward mix. I never got to playing around a lot of pomegranate flavors. TPA's flavor is decent, FA pom is tough to work with and too much of it is just really gross.
I started with just the poms and raspberry, it was too sharp and almost medicinal. I lowered the % of everything and added dragonfruit and cactus because fruits right?
In the end, I had some people try it and like it.
I added a touch of vanilla swirl and started selling it.
I would say that 3/4 of people who try it like it, and about 25% of people who try it love it. Then there's the 1/4 who absolutely despised it. If you don't like it , blame me lol
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0.1% (INW) Cactus
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0.5% (TPA) Dragonfruit
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4% (TPA) Pomegranate
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0.5% (FA) Pomegranate
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2% (TPA) Raspberry (sweet)
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1%(TPA) Vanilla Swirl
Arnold Palmer -- something I mixed for someone by request
Super simple , I wanted a real tea flavor with lemonade. I was going for a 50/50 mix of the two.
LA lemonade + CAP sicily do a damn good job for a simple lemonade base.
FA black tea is the obvious choice for the tea and one that I am familiar with from using it in my earl grey mix. Fa black tea stops being useful around 2%.. here at 1.25% its really about as strong as the 5% lemon flavors.
lastly, sugar is really necessary to make this work. A nice heap of sweetness or your favorite sweetener nd you are good to go. Add some ws23 and grab some hot dogs.
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1% (CAP) Italian Lemon Sicily
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4% (LA) Lemonade
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0.75% (FLV) Sweetness
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1.25% (FA) Tea Black Water Soluble
rainbow sherbet
Another one where I take a decent or good flavor and try and make something better. This one I pretty much landed on my first attempt, just tweaked some percentages. TPA rainbow sherb can be harsh so I landed at a sweet spot of 3.3% rather than 4% or higher.
FA raspberry punches up the raspberry flavor and doesn't get lost amidst the sea of citrus.
CAP lemon lime was my first choice for citrus because it works two jobs and you don't need a lot of it in a situation like this. I wanted some noticeable lemon/lime but not for it to be the star of the show.
CAP sweet tangerine was my choice for orange because its sweeter than FW blood orange or FA orange, and here it shows up right in the front, you get the orange right on the inhale.
Oh yeah without TPA marshmallow this whole thing would be throat hit city.
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0.5% (FA) Berryl (raspberry)
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0.75% (CAP) Lemon Lime
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1% (TPA) Marshmallow
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3.3% (TPA) Rainbow Sherbet
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1% (CAP) Sweet Tangerine
Swedish fish - this one can be a bit throaty, lelt it steep or not
This recipe could still be worked on and I have actually changed the mix a bunch of times. I think the CAP 27 fish and TPA Swedish fish are both good flavors with a lot of drawbacks. CAP fish is very weak and doesn't have much body to it. TPA fish is harsh but has a lot of those gummy candy feels that we really want in this mix. The combo of JF sweet strawberry, TPA blueberry extra and a touch of INW peach tastes like a really nice, sharp strawberry candy flavor and are here to kind of pull the Swedish fish flavors in that direction while using all the good parts of the Swedish fish flavors and trying to hide their shortcomings. if you think this is a cluster fuck of words well that's how I feel about this recipe. its a clusterfuck, it works but it aint perfect.
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6% (CAP) 27 Fish
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1% (TPA) Blueberry (extra)
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0.25% (INW) Peach
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2.5% (JF) Strawberry Sweet
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1.5% (TPA) Swedish Gummy
I will be adding to this list as I eliminate more and more flavors from my menu. I will also consider doing another post for pod device mixes.
thanks ya'll for reading. I hope you can find something you like =)
please note, I have many public recipes at alltheflavors.com available as well
I'm assuming you will eventually dump all the flavors you plan to dump under your profile there?
I will make some of them public. I have some 250 original recipes, some should not be seen by the public and some will remain secret because money lol
In the end maybe 15 will be added on all the flavors and some others sprinkled here and there when I have time
Haha. I didn't mean to dump literally every flavor, of course you need to keep your secrets/some are not for sharing for other reasons. I mean of the ones you do share publicly, will you consolidate them all under your alltheflavors? Just asking for curiosities sake really, I don't even DIY :P
I just cut my menu back as well. I’m too busy to develop new flavors and I’m sick of all of my own stuff lol. This is a welcomed change of pace. Thanks man. Hope things have been well since the classies got shit on.
It was hard at first but now I'm really busy again. Trying to have fun and stay sane , this reduction will help a lot
Most definitely! I’m still working on my site development but my regulars are still my regulars. Love em to death lol. I recently cut down to 54 flavors but a lot of them use similar concentrates so my concentrate order ticket dropped quite a lot and I have enough people ordering those flavors to justify keeping em. At least for now. I really wanna get down to 35 total but I know it’s gonna disappoint some people.
Hash, I know you're a valued member of the community and all, but you've gotta post some notes man. Otherwise, I'd say you should move these to the monthly thread if you can't be bothered with notes.
Edit: thanks for updating this post, I will unstick this comment now.
Ok no prob. Let me add some notes tomorrow afternoon? Is that alright?
Sorry about that.. I just know a lot of folks asked me to do this and figured it would be the best way for ppl to see it.
That works, I'm going to hold you to it. Apologies to bother you but we have to hold the community to the same standards or this place would become ELR.
You are a hero. This place would be a lot less sticky without you. And for that. We must be grateful.
I look forward to more of your insightful contributions.
Funny you ask, we have a special place for trolls here...
I missed the part where I asked a question. But, I will pop a few out there and see what happens.
Do you see an extensive post history from me in regards to this subreddit? Do you see a bevy of inane questions or worthy contributions in regards to DIY? Do you think I make my own juice? Do you think there is a reason I choose not to contribute here?
Do the "rules" preclude users from posting here? Is it possible that a baby was in that bath tub when you tossed it out? Do you think you would be able to help more people stop smoking if there were less of an emphasis placed on arbitrary subservience?
You may know the answers to these questions and you may not. I will gladly go to my place. You're a loony in a small corner of the internet. You have a tiny bit of power and it's gone straight to your head. Because you are an insignificant being when measured by social standards the imbalance causes you to lash out and force people to respect you or else.
Banning me will only prevent me from posting here. Which I don't really do. You are merely perpetuating your worthlessness with unnecessary action. A life you cannot avoid. There's a lesson here. But that lesson will fade from your mind before it can take grasp. Embrace your futility.
Sorry if this is a dumb question. What do you mean by "notes"?
I'm putting all flavor orders on hold pending the completion of this recipe dump.
I would say don't hold out. make an order during memorial day sales. it wont be finished before then, I don't know when i'll have time to sit down and do this again
Any places you'd recommend as far as flavor ordering goes? I haven't checked up on many of the Memorial Day sales. Super new, so I honestly don't even know all the go to spots for flavors.
You gave me the recipe for RY4 a couple months back and I've been vaping it every day. You asked me not share it and I haven't, but now I am happy that other mixers can experience that awesome RY4.
Awesome I'm glad you dig it. It definitely is one of the better RY4s I have come across
How do you feel about DFS Holy Grail Ry4? You prefer JF over it or are they both really good? I've tried a bunch of ry4s and when I found the DFS one I stopped looking.
That rainbow sherbet sounds great! I've been trying to figure one out myself for a while with no success
>Swedish fish - this one can be a bit throaty, lelt it steep or not
Lawd tfa swedish fish takes me behind the shed and rapes my throat even at 0.5%. Got it while working on a pinky clone and yeesh it hurts.
Yea it can be rough but it's got some good baseline candy thangs going on
I'll take the harshness over whatever the hell cap sweet cream does to me. 1 drop in a 15ml is vomit inducing, similar experience with their vanilla bean ice cream. shudders
I suck with flavors lol.
Hash I love you good sir ! I am so glad I have had the chance to talk to you...You are one of the most sincere and generous people I know I cannot say it enough. Thank you for all you have done for me and this community. . . Love ya
Does this mean raspberry pom is getting removed? I just got some and it's incredible!
Yes it will be removed. I'm very confident that all my flavors are good, but I have to consolidate :/
Hi Hash, was wondering if you have any pod nic recipes? I've looked around and there aren't many. I plan on using them with the breeze 2 but it uses traditional coils so is it safe to just mix like if it were for sub ohm and just up the nic? Also, in your experience, do you find that salts mute flavors to the point you need to double flavor %'s? Sorry for all the questions, just not alot of info on mixing with salts out there.
Hey so a lot of pods vapes just don't give off good flavor. It's best to go with simple and linear mixes for the best results. Salts don't mute flavor the devices that we use for high mg salts just suck at giving flavor.
I have recipes and I will release some once I decide on my final menu ')
Simple recipes like Hash's guava cactus mix are what works best for salts. 2-3 flavourings in regular percentage ranges. If you have a recipe that relies on a bunch of background notes to come out proper, you're not necessarily gonna taste them on a Breeze.
This is so awesome Hash. I remember someone asked you to make an apple waffle and someone commented it tasted like GSV's apple waffle. This is so going on to my next order list. I may not have ordered from you before (not from the US), but I'm really thankful for these and the other recipes you've also released. :D
It makes me happy to see you used FA Zeppola in your donut recipe. I've heard good things about your juice but I make my own. Kind of re-affirms my taste in ingredients since I use that for my donut recipes opposed to other donut flavors available. Might have to try TPA Butter & DFS Holy Vanilla now.
Just want to thank you Hash for putting your recipes up here and wish you well with the next phase of your mixing. A while back, you helped me out with a recipe so will always be grateful for that. By the way, I think your Vin's Vanilla Cookies is the best cookie recipe by far on ATF. Don't know why it doesn't get more rave reviews. Respect. P
You are really awesome for sharing your recipes. Leche De Coco is the best recipe of 2017 for a reason. I mix it regularly and use it as a base for my coconut custard. appreciated.
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That's awesome, thanks.
What's up with the peach and blueberry in the swedish fish recipe?
A touch of blueberry adds to that juicy, bright, jammy candy essence.
Inawera Peach adds some down low and up high tones that can further push the candy vibe.... at a quarter percent behind everything else you won't get any peach flavor in there.
Will gladly accept some more of your recipes. I got some juice from you probably 6 months ago and within a week had ordered my own diy stuff. Your Placid Clone is one of my all time favorites.
Ya that placid esque mix is amazing. I have some folks who buy it 600ml at a time
Nice! I actually have a rainbow sherbet I'm working on. I was close. Except I used 2% lb ice cream. I wasn't aware tfa had a rainbow sherbet I will have to get some. I'm sure that would work better.
It's definitely a good baseline , everything else is just to make it sing
Hey I had a question about your new menu. From what I read yesterday I gather that you will be using all nic salts. My understanding of nic salts is you generally want to double what you would normally use with freebase. Are you going recommend people order double or automatically mix double for sub ohm users so it works out the same way?
Sorry if that doesn't make sense.
I wouldn't say to double your Mg on the order. Everyone reacts differently and will absorb nic at a different rate. I will probably use a different scale say 0, 2, 4, 6, etc and not have the 1.5 mg on the menu , the main difference is smoothness and less throat hit
i need to learn more about this. I don't like throat irritation but I vape sub-ohm . I need a guide to punch into my calculator that doesn't fuck up all the recipes I got saved that are all freebase
I mean you can buy nic salts in 100%pg, 100%vg or a 50/50 blend. it wont mess up your recipes at all just use the same amount of nic you'd normally use.
the only reason I vape 1.5mg freebase is because of throat hit, nic salts let me go up to 3mg while still being smooth as a baby butt
understood that (already read about labels).but would your bottle sizes always be the same like samples 20,medium 60 and large 120? can't wait about new site,maybe could I suggest about (when new menu/list ready) a rating/liking system with "best selling/hottest/etc" for when a person wants to try some sample of new liquid and is in the dark?
Hi, first of all thank you. Not everybody does what you did. If i do not boder too much as i dont have many of the flavourings there, could you make a list of from the best to the not so best recipes you put there ? (in order to you and most people who tried them) Again thank you very much!
People ask me all the time what the best / favorite / popular things are...
I really don't like telling peeps what to get, tastes differ so much. I just say whatever sounds good to you, get that. So whatever profile is up your alley; go with that :)
My absolute favorite things are private recipes lol
Are these really light on flavors? I usually mix around 10-12% flavoring and most here are around half that. I suppose if I need it stronger I could just double up but I'm just questioning if I've been doing something wrong this whole time lol.
What kind of atomizer do you use ? I would say they're actually pretty good on flavor and the fruitier ones are quite full flavored especially rainbow sherbet
Currently a dead rabbit but always on the lookout for better.