Almost all sweeteners contain a fair amount of water and most commercial juices have more sweetener than DIY. The 0.75% SS in Tony's might be getting you closest to your commercial liquids. You could either try 60/40 VG/PG to see how that affects your wicking or put a few drops of distilled water in the bottle and work your way up.

thank you for posting. your take on DIY is an interesting one and to me is totally out of alignment with what others have to say about their own efforts and results regarding their mixes. personally I've only had good results playing with flavors and I'm reaping the benefits of cost savings versus when I was paying the premium price for "premium juice". this sub is small but it's fucking full of wealth when it comes to DIY. I

What are the recipes? Sweetener isn’t going to make your mixes less dry and more flavorful.

Part of it is just getting used to diy juice. It took me a couple of months for my palate to adjust. I haven't tried Best Damn Pink Lemonade or POG Remix. I did try various strawberry and cream mixes with high ratings and it wasn't getting it done for me either. Two that worked for me even in the beginning were Darren Cole's original Lemon Tart, a Dinner Lady Remix and Element Pink Lemonade Clone My ADV by Micah, both on ELR. This was before my Reddit and ATF days. If you sort ELR by rating you will find both of those on the first page. Both were flavorful, juicy and delicious even when I was still used to commercial juices. And they are both flavorful and delicious now that I am used to DIY. The difference now is I enjoy a range of other DIY juice as well and can't stand the commercial stuff anymore. Give them a try and then give your palate time to adjust and soon you'll be enjoying all kinds of DIY recipes, even ones with only 4 or 5% flavoring. Good luck!

PS Both recipes have a long list of ingredients! Buy them all with no regrets and no substitutions! Edit: One substitution that is ok in the Lemon Tart is FA Custard instead of Custard Pi. Forgot about that one!

Do you steep? Even recipes that say they are s&v can brighten after a few days.

If your friends like what you've made might it be that you're just more picky than them? I'm frequently disappointed with recipes that people rave about and I haven't found many yet that I would want to make in large quantities.

I'm not sure, but just some "out of the box" ideas for why it doesn't taste right, your mod/tank could not be bringing enough flavor out or different coils not producing flavor (I've had this issue, could only barely taste most recipes), or it could be that you're not steeping. Lots of flavors need time. I know when I got my first eliquid order, I put it in my tank as soon as I shook it, and it was AWFUL. Ugh (unicorn vomit at that, still can't try that one again yet) then I learned most flavors need at least a week, and a month to be absolutely perfect. (Although few recipes/flavors will have a sweet spot and sometime be worse after a month and only need a few days.) I know dessert and cream flavors need lots of steeping time.

Not sure what it is but just some things I've experienced. Hope it helps.

Could I ask where you are? Also, what are you using for nicotine, VG, and PG? This could be making a huge difference.

Try this:

• TPA Dragonfruit @ 3 %

• CAP Kiwi @ 1 %

• TFA Strawberry @ 4 %

Keep in mind that you won’t really be pulling any Kiwi flavor out of CAP Kiwi.

Layering generally doesn’t work with those high nic salt juices. Find a strong flavor and mix it single flavor or max 2 flavors. I like FA Fuji and mint of your choice (INW mint is what i use)

I prefer the diy or die version. That said, I haven't tried the original so don't know how close to the original it is.

• 4-6% Cap Sweet Guava.
• 2% FA Passionfruit.
• 2% Cap Sweet Tangerine/4% Cap Juicy Orange or 3-4% Cap Tangerine(1% FA Orange if needed). (0.5% Cap Super Sweet.) I personally add 1% Cap Hibiscus and 1% Cap Cucumber for more aromatic punch flavor.

sorry I can't add to your post, contribute in any way, nor advise in any fashion, I just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed reading your love hate relationship with melons, pineapples, and hamster cages. you made my night tonight and I hope you find whatever it is you're looking for, haha

*edit- oh, I love deads and squats are king.

The pineapple sounds like TFA Pineapple, just from others opinions... I actually enjoy it, but then again I am somewhat of a masochist with a high tolerance for pain and I'll eat and enjoy pretty much any shitty meal. FWIW, I'd assume you're dealing with TFA Pineapple. As for the melon, I haven't experienced the hamster cage taste so I can't say.

I knew a girl that smelled like a hamster cage once. She was super hot and smart, but her hair always smelled like hamsters. It was very conflicting.

The pineapple is probably flavour art that stuff is despicable. Try Flavorah wild melon its nice.I keep a bottle of fa pineapple to remind me of all of my failures in life.

I don't know about pop, but a lot of flavors complement raspberry well, such as blackcurrant (not FA, try INW or MB), blackberry and blueberry. The best raspberry I've found is combining 3% TFA Raspberry Sweet with 0.5% INW Raspberry (Molina).

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/72iehm/how_to_get_throat_hit_on_0_nicotine/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5oyb8t/lack_of_throat_hit_with_diy/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/1wzhlx/0_nic_juicers_do_you_add_a_little_more_pg_to/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/2u4uv2/replicating_throat_hit_on_0mg_juices/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/2ot4k2/throat_hit_without_nicbitextra/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/1nwfbi/switched_off_nicotine_now_got_no_throat_hit/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/1xl0ux/throat_hit_on_0_nic/

The only real one is TFA Wintergreen. FA Spearmint is nice with it. [Here's a recipe] (https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/85349#wintergreen_by_kindground) I did.

FYI they charge you a small order fee of $10, so it would take a lot of tips before that dropped off. You should probably email BCF and see if they’ll sell you some or tell you what size will fit. I’ve replaced the tip on a few BCF bottles with tips I got from Dropperbottles. They sell 100 caps and tips for $6, so less than the small order fee from C&P.

https://dropperbottles.com/collections/plastic/products/copy-of-10ml-ldpe-dropper-bottles-child-resistant-certified?variant=25470444419

Those bottles come with those

You're going to have to buy some bottles and rob them of their tips. Or continue to use syringes/droppers and mix by weight dropping with those... Until those flavors run out and you buy a new bottle.

I can tell you are taking this way too seriously.

The correct question to ask is "Do I want to spend 193.20 on flavorings at one time?" If yes then go for shit if no then don't. I didn't have that much money to blow on it right off the bat but I would if I could have.

Most people don't but flavorings for 25 different recipes to start but, like i said, if you can then go for it.

It's definitely a better approach than mine. I wish I had put as much time in as you before buying flavorings. I am now up to 75 flavors and there isn't a whole lot I can make, it seems. ELR says I can make like 1900 recipes, which I was super stoked for, but what I didnt know was that 1000 was strawberry creams, 400 Strawberry custard, 200 strawberry cheesecake, 200 DiyOrDie reposts, 95 shit, and 5 lesser shit. On ATF I get 4 pages of recipes and it's a little bit more diverse, but not by a whole lot.

So I guess keep doing what youre doing. Make sure theres some diversity in your selections and get used to owning like 6 brands of the same flavor. It is my biggest cockblock.

Just remember that ELR has a ton of shit reviews. Check the year the recipes were posted and keep in mind that the older recipes could be way off percentage wise.

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That’s the only one I’ve seen so far in the ol’ email.

FA Fuji tastes rather green to me, and it's pretty bright and lively as far as apples go. Otherwise TFA Green Apple is decent, but I haven't compared it to any other brands.

This FOTW thread has a decent list of apples and their descriptions, otherwise this (older) thread has some other info along with some recipes and inspiration.

Our sidebar here is a great resource for beginners. There’s lots of info there.

Kits are not recommended. Just piece together what you need. Start out mixing by weight, not volume. You’ll need to get a scale that measures down to 0.01 g and does not have an auto-shutoff.

Look up some highly rated recipes in this sub and on the website All The Flavors. Once you have a few that sound good to you, order only those flavors found in those recipes to start out with.

If you are just starting out... if you don't mind limiting yourself to TFA, CAP, and FW you should just order flavors and bases from bestglycol. And don't forget a decent scale and a shitload of bottles.

I think the specific gravity of nic salts might vary depending on composition, so you'd either need to measure it yourself or ask the manufacturer. For freebase nic, it's 1.035984 g/ml by my calculations, the difference probably isn't significant.

This post is pretty old, so don't mind the bits about the vendors much, but there is a section regarding storage that tells you everything you need to know.

What about it do you find confusing?

I’d also suggest getting small bottles to rebottle your nic in the freezer for storage and full to the brim. No air.

I'd guess close to 100%. There will likely be a sales thread posted later this week.

For max VG, you'd simply add the nic and flavors as necessary, then the rest is just VG. This will usually land you between 80% and 90% VG, depending on the recipe and how strong you want the nic.

I know ATF can correct you to the correct percentage, otherwise I'd probably just mix the VG last and top off the bottle with enough headspace for shaking/steeping. I wouldn't worry much about decimals, you'll still maintain the profile if you're off a gram or so of VG.

max VG is just a term stating that after all the PG in your flavorings including the PG in your nic have been mixed up you only use VG to finish the recipe, thus maxing it out. if you seriously want to max out VG then you would use a nic based in VG. you're gonna need to shake the shit out of it though! I use a low concentrate of nic in PG because I don't want to worry about hot spots and I simply can't get higher concentrates shipped to me using USPS air mail. make an account on ELR and you'll be set. on your adapted recipes, check the box for max VG and the calculator will do the math for you

Did you order a scale? Assuming you are planning to mix by weight. Mixing by volume can be such a pain, and it's hard to get the kind of accuracy you need to have recipes come out as they are intended to. If you aren't planning to mix by weight, read the sidebar first, and reconsider.

edit: search mixing by weight. I guess some things have been moved.

I haven't tried that one yet, but sometimes bumping your wattage up a bit helps bring out more flavor and highlights different notes. Decreasing airflow can also help make a flavor taste more intense. Have you re-wicked/changed your coil?

Assuming you mathed and measured everything correctly, I would try the above. It could also just be that your taste buds aren't as receptive to the flavors in the mix.

I vaped maybe 100ml of that recipe and generally had a good experience. It could possibly be your caramel being older. How long did you steep for? I had two bottles that I mixed, one short and one long. If I remember correctly the long steep had slightly smoothed out flavor and less intense coconut.

I would have been vaping that juice on a wasp nano with full open airflow and a fused clapton build. Also would have mixed the juice at 70% vg with fresh bottles of concentrates.

I'm not sure if I've had flavors go mute/bad over time. I have some that are probably 3 years old that I'm still using. However they are darker colored than the new bottles of those flavors I have. My oldest stuff is all in glass and is mostly untouched so it may have held up better over time.

I'm having trouble sourcing WS-23. where are you getting your's?

Try FA polar blast. I've heard good things about it. I heard (coz i dont have both atm) that ws23 is cool on the inhale while polar blast is cool on the exhale.

I saw and answered this in your earlier solo post. I don't really wanna retype it all but... Figure out what the highest nic version you want to make is. Make your liter at that concentration, only don't add the nic. You can then add a combo of nic and/or PG to the individual bottles to get the nic levels right and still get the PG ratio you want.

I've never seen a figure for this, see my reply to the other question. However, at least 90% of your nic base will be PG or VG, so whatever the difference in weight is between freebase and salt, the impact should be minute.

INW Cactus is only going to add to the weirdness. If anything, back off the INW Razz or just give it another week or two to steep. It is a very strong flavor.

I probably wouldn’t double anything except the banana cream and biscuit. That’s just from looking at it without having mixed it either way.