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Is there any other websites like ELR that you guys would suggest?
It's been tough finding recipes that are well rated but don't require 10 different ingredients, I don't have much of a selection at the moment (about 18 total) so yea.
This tidbit might help you (from the ELR Guide)
- . . . you can actually find recipes with a specific amount of flavors. To find recipes you can make that has exactly 3 flavors you can add the parameter "fcount" to the URL: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/whatcanimake?fcount=3. It also works with the normal search. Here I search for "coffee", and have added "fcount" to the URL: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/list?q=coffee&fcount=3.*
Also . . . have you tried All the Flavors?
Also if you don't mind me asking, would you happen to know if I can substitute DX Bavarian Cream for the original in recipes at the same amount or?
Can anyone recommend me a >simple< peach and cream recipe? It's more I'm overwhelmed by the number of peach/cream flavors and don't know which are better than others.
I haven't tried this recipe, but it looks pretty well balanced and tasty. I would sub the TPA peach for something with less throat hit like INW peach maybe in combination with another, more floral peach like FA White peach.
There's some good info about peach concentrates and a few recipes here. The top comment by /u/notcharlesmanson in particular seems like it would be a good simple peaches and cream.
Edit: This one also looks delicious, and at 2 ingredients, couldn't be simpler.
Try:
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TFA Juicy Peach 4%
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FA White Peach 2%
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TFA Bavarian Cream 4%
The 2 peaches compliment each other nicely and TFA Bavarian is a decently neutral yet rich cream to work with.
Edit: should have included the bit about TFA peach juicy carrying a wicked throat hit for some people. INW might be a better option at a lower percentage if you have a sensitive throat. Also, there's a couple FOTW posts that go further into detail with peach flavors than I can.
Best peach cream recipe ever:
2% FA Fresh Cream
Just cream no peach?
Wave a (sealed) bottle of FLV Mango over it if you want. But yeah. Note - it's also the best Strawberry&Cream recipe. And almost any Fruit+Cream recipe is best in this form. (Creamy fruits like banana or Coconut are exceptions. Or - IRL at least - Cherry Garcia ice cream.)
I'm thinking about buying a large quantity of 200mg nicotine.
Approximately how long can I store it before it goes bad?
I'm going to store it airtight in a freezer. Any other tips?
Split the bottle up into smaller bottles. Store them in the freezer and you should be fine. You don't want to be opening the one bottle multiple times in and out of the freezer... just decant the once, into the freezer, take out enough to mix for a month or two at a time and you'll be fine. Keep anything that isn't in the freezer in a cool place with no sunlight. Some people go to the extreme of adding argon into bottles before they store... if you really feel like trying that you can but it isn't necessary. And once in the freezer... it's lasted for years without degradation for people who've stored their's in a freezer that long.
follow up:
Just got a 250ml sample bottle. On the label it says store between 2 °C and 6 °C. I thought it should be lower than that. What's the best temperature to store nicotine?
Still want to know how long I can expect to store it until it goes bad. 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? 20 years?
The nicotine is in pg btw.
Lower than the suggested temp is for long term storage. Using it straight out of the freezer is a bit more difficult, and would involve having it fluctuate in temperature widely on a frequent basis. Tl:dr - the recommendation assumes you'll be using it all fairly quickly
Any one have really unique flavors that came out surprisingly good? I'm thinking about apple cinnamon and cheese cake, Menthol strawberry cream, and lemon cake batter.
- CAP spearmint 2%
- CAP juicy peach 3%
- TFA whipped cream 2%
Trust me
Lol I wish I could sample it before I tried it but it sounds really good. Why peach though?
The question is......why not?
Basically I've seen a shit ton of recipes incorporating fruit and menthol together. Being a chef by trade I wanted to push those boundaries away from the basic strawberry, Apple mint combos I see everywhere. Peach was something I considered and after playing around with the recipe I found it paired really well with the spearmint. The whipped cream helps fill out the flavours nicely
This one is kind of weird and oddly good. I was trying to find a way to make anise not so horrible, and with the Wood Spice it is actually pretty decent.
Hi all. I'm trying to make a 50ml mix of some stuff I have. I thought the following could make a good mix: RY4 Double (TPA), Caramel v2 (Cap) and VBIC (Cap). I have no idea what percentages to use though. Could anyone help me with this? I also have some leftover Sugar Cookie v2 (Cap) and Choco Glazed Doughnut (Cap). Maybe I can throw one of those in as well? I'd love to hear some suggestions on how I could make the tastiest mix out of those 3/5 ingredients.
I'd start simple with maybe a 123 in ratios.
RY4 Double @ 3%
VBIC @ 2%
Caramel @ 1%
Maybe add 0.5% Sugar Cookie if you want it sweeter, or switch the caramel and vbic percentages according to your liking.
Then try and go through iterations based on what you like/dislike of the first recipe. Also why 50ml? I'd start with 20ml so in case you don't like it at all, you did not waste as much.
Edit: format
I'm in search of accurate reviews by Spanish people as I primarly use Bombo and Vap Fip flavours, and I'm searching for a good "tobacco" flavour. Also, I want to know if Heisenberg is a good flavour or it's overhyped. Thanks.
Good evening, from vap fip I tested the bases and bases with nicotine. I can only say that never again. In my opinion they are bases for beginners. They are the most accessible, they are in almost all stores, but once you try other brands you do not want to vap fip. The aromas, as they are not manufacturers, I imagine that they will be re-based of other brands with their bases. Of Bombo I can not comment because I have not tried more than one eliquid
Hi all. I am extremely new to all this. I've read through the FAQs and beginner's info and didn't see my particular question addressed, so here goes:
I have a number of commercial 0 nicotine e-liquids. I would like them to be at least 3mg nic (but no more than 6mg). How reckless would I be to add some blended nicotine solution such as sold by Vape Wild? Obviously, I don't have a recipe to go by for each juice, so I'm working in the dark here. Thanks for any help, I feel a bit awkward posting this
You can do that. It will dilute the flavor a bit, but not much at 3mg. As to how: do you have a scale? Recipe calculator? What strength is the nicotine?
Looking to make a bunch of 500mL batches. I have some wide mouth bottles, so the spout size doesnt really matter to me. I can't decide if I should use mason jars, glass boston rounds, or these
16oz bottles are, iirc, 473ml. May be an issue.
I'd go with mason jars if you have a steady enough hand to decant into unicorn bottles for use.
I have been slowly accumulating all of the flv tobacco concentrates as they become available at my go-to vendor. So far I have these ones, and was wondering if anyone could suggest a nice tobacco recipe I could mix up tonight?
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Red Burley
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Connecticut shade
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Tatanka
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Cured tobacco
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Virginia
I have single flavor tested a few of them and messed around mostly with red Burley and tatanka so far, but tbh I haven't got a damn clue how to effectively use tobacco flavorings. I figure mixing up some good recipes might give me a better idea of how these flavors can work.
If you haven't already . . .
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Create an account on ELR
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Add flavors to your "Flavor Stash"
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Click on the "what can I make?" button
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Sort the list of recipes by rating
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Start reading from the top
yeah i have done that plenty, but i have about 250 flavors in my stash, and im not sure there is a way to filter "what can i make" recipes by certain flavors unfortunately.
In the top right corner - click on the "User" icon to bring down a menu. From there choose "Search by Flavor Stash". That will bring you to a page of recipes with all your flavors (with switches). The switches you turn "on" will limit the list to only recipes that contain those flavors.
Any chance you have FLV rich cinnamon or FA Cinnamon Ceylon? .2% (or 1%, respectively) with 2% each red burley and Connecticut Shade should be something you'd like. You could add 4% RY4D if you want some caramel with your tobacco. (One month steep on that.)
Are those your only tobaccos, or just the only FLV you have?
Well if you count RY4 style "tobaccos" then i also have:
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HS RY4
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TFA RY4 Double
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FA Soho
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WF Vanilla Ruyan Custard
Perhaps you could do something like this but sub the Kentucky with Virginia. All FLV tobacco recipes and RY4s are not my specialty :/
I bet something like this might be interesting though:
2% Vanilla RY Custard
1.5% Red Burley
.5% Connecticut Shade
1.5% Virginia
If I wasn’t in bed right now I’d go mix that up to see how it is. Definitely gonna give it a go tomorrow. I’ve got a pretty interesting one in the works with that RY Custard.
Hey guys. Im trying to make a swedish fish flavor but im struggling with the flavor being kind of dull and muted. My recipe is: Swedish Gummy (TFA) @ 5% Juicy Strawberry (fa) @ 2% Vanilla Swirl(tfa) @ 1%
I was wondering if someone could tell me if they have any good recipes using Sweedish Gummy feom tfa
Take the Swedish gummy down to 2%. Use it as an additive, not a base flavor.
Hey bud,
Try mixing 5% Swedish gummy with 1% sweet strawberry (cap), 1% raspberry v2 (cap), 1% Grape Concord (FA)
I know the grape sounds kind of weird but mixed with the strawberry and raspberry it makes the berryish flavours of the Swedish fish really come through
Hey guys,
I'm sorry for my noob question, I tried looking it up online but Im not sure and with these kind of things I'd like to be sure... :/
First for the math... I have 150ml of nicotine base with a strength of 18mg(/ml?). And I have 30ml ready to vape e-liquid. Now for example...
30ml nicotine free e-liqiud
5ml nicotine base (18mg/ml) = 90mg nicotine
Means I should have 35ml of e-liquid with 90mg nicotine means my result is ~2.5mg/ml nicotine. Is this math right or am I doing something wrong?
And now my second question is, what are your experiences? I'm a heavy smoker who smokes about 15-25 cigarettes per day and I really want to go to vaping... What is the range of nicotine mg/ml I should try with my 15-25 cigs?
Thanks a lot and sorry for my english... :)
Your math sounds about right. 6ml of 18mg/ml added to 30ml of 0mg/ml would give you 3ml of 3mg/ml, so your numbers don't seem far off. As for what you should be doing as far as target juice level - 8t depends on your gear and your pain tolerance (and how much you're into pain). Subohm, not one to enjoy pain, stick to 3mg. MTL and crave pain? Go with 12-18mg. And then there's the nic salt option... so you could probably vape 9mg relatively pain-free even with subohm gear.
I suggest you use two different levels of nicotine.
When I made the switch I used two tanks - one with 12mg/ml and the other with 3mg/ml. I primarily vaped the 3mg. But at certain times when the nicotine craving was super strong (first thing in the morning, after dinner, etc) a few puffs on the 12 mg helped keep me off the cancer sticks.
The higher nic is much harsher, but not unbearable - and MUCH better than smoking. You might want to look into Nic Salts for something with a higher nic.
Is nic River a substantially bigger company than Bcf? I placed an order on nic River 2 days ago and still hasn't been processed. I just placed an order on bcf a while ago and I got an email it's been shipped already o.o
I usually buy bottles shots but I'm wanting to try mix my own. Got 2 recipes in mind but not sure about the ratios
Drip Hacks Pineapple 6%
Drip Hacks Mango 2%
FA Passion Fruit 2%
FA Mandarin 2%
The second recipe will be the same with FA Orange instead of pineapple.
Uh... well, I don't believe I've seen that brand of flavor before. Have you done any SFT on them? 2% FA passionfruit seems really high. As does 2% FA Mandarin.
Unless you're making this for a pod system, or you're a total masochist, I'd suggest cutting those in half. (Then again, you are using two peach flavors, so I can't discount masochism.)
I've just guessed it a bit judging by the recommended mixing strengths on each flavour. I'll probably use some 10ml testers of 1% for Passion fruit and mandarin.
Not sure what you mean by two peach flavours
Mango and passionfruit both, beside (what's the taste equivalent of 'reeking'?) of peach, most likely contain linalool... a serial throat-rapist masquerading as a flavor volatile. Pretty harsh either way. And I don't believe I've ever encountered a FA flavor that needed to be used above 3%, and most are most useful under 2%.
Would tfa mango be a good stand alone vape? I do have cream tfa as well though. What would be the percentage for a standalone
There was a megathread on mango flavors a while back (here)[https://reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4f2dap/mango_flavor_review_megathread/]. A few replies down, someone copied and pasted a note about TFA mango that they made while developing a recipe. Spoiler alert: it is not considered one of the best mango flavors. If you search the sub for “TFA mango” though you’ll find some other threads asking similar questions — some people recommend adding a jackfruit flavor to try to improve it.
A good recipe to use up your TFA Mango is The Dude by Alphavape clone. I would cut those percentages in half and steep for 2 weeks to reduce the throat hit though. It's really tasty.
No mango is good standalone. Or mixed.
But if you were going to insist on trying, you want FLV Mango (if you like the peach side of the mango flavor) or VT Green Mango (if you prefer the pinesol part of mango flavor)
In the meantime, OP, you might want to read this if you think you'll have any chance of liking TFA Mango...
Alright I’ll make it then. I just bought it randomly haha. I’ll try this one and if I like it I’ll try the ones you suggested
I'm about to order a gallon of VG and I'm wondering if I need to separate them out into smaller bottles like 6 500ml bottles with very minimal air in each bottle or will using only 1 500ml bottle to refill from the gallon for mixing be fine? The concern is if air in the gallon jug matter with VG?
Will be stored in my closet. I'm good on the nic and PG storage, just wondering about VG. Should last me from 1.5-3 years, just thinking if it'll go bad near the end when the gallon is mostly empty.
Thanks in advance for your comments and advice.
A s long as the containers are airtight, it should store for quite a while if kept within a reasonable temperature range. The main worries are it absorbing moisture from the air, or picking up random flavor molocules from the air. Both of these require exposure to the air... (note that the source bottle will contain a great deal of air once it is mostly empty, so... if you divide it up between several bottles, the ones you don't expect to use right away completely full with no air, and sealed... you should be fine.)
I've always just left it in the gallon until the last drop and never had a problem. It's generally stored around 72F or less though. If it got too warm resulting in condensation, or sat out where sunlight could reach it, I might be a bit concerned about the effects.
I live in the south so my place can get up to 78F... In this case, would you recommend breaking it up into the smaller 500ml bottles? Or putting bottles in what space I have in the fridge?
If you have a basement, I'd keep the bulk jug there near the floor and your working bottle in the cupboard/closet. I've never bothered keeping my VG in there but if I had to choose 78F or the fridge, I'd probably choose the fridge next to my working bottle of nic.
Any tobacco experts got any good substitutes for FLV Connecticut Shade? It'll be a while before my next order, so...
You looking to substitute it with something you already have or you plan on ordering a sub for it? Personally, I get mostly coffee from it. I’m actually vaping a cigar recipe right now that I swapped the Shade with FLV Irish Cream and it’s not bad. The Irish Cream is a bit stronger than the shade though, so I’d cut it back by 50-66%. INW Kent has a coffee note that I’ve used in a similar way to Connecticut Shade, but it also has a hint of licorice. It’s not an offensive amount of licorice, but it’s there. Also seems to be a bit stronger, so i would scale it back about 25%.
Hmm. I was actually looking to add both Connecticut Shade (as a replacement for Cured) and some SA Irish Coffee to tweak one of my recipes, then realized the order I just got in had several other FLV items, just not CS... I may just use HS Cigar instead... I'll check and see if I have Kent tho...
Hey guys. I've read through all of the DIY Starter guide. Just a few quick question, since this in one of the most changing parts of the DIY scene. I'm very new, so any additional points are appreciated.
Where do you recommend buying VG, PG, and Nicotine? Any places/brands to avoid in particular?
Is there a guide anywhere on what flavors/additives/ingredients to avoid? I recall hearing that ginger possibly produces toxic chemicals when vaped, as opposed to when used in cooking, for example. Anything obvious to avoid?
Thanks guys.
Flavors to avoid? Anything from Capella that is V2. Any TFA DX flavors (other than peanut butter). TFA Honey. TFA Acai. TFA Mango. TFA Cinnamon Spice (you can get this one, but buy the smallest size available (hopefully from somewhere that sells 3ml sample sizes) and dilute to a 1% solution that you can use in recipes at .1%). There's a bunch of FW flavors that add actual sugars (which are toxic to vape) such as FW Yellow Cake. The fill list of FW flavors to avoid is available somewhere, I think it was in one of the FAQ Friday threads. There's a bunch of flavors from INW that were once good but we're reformulated to horribleness. I don't recall the entire list, it should be available when searching. Most flavoring to be used in vaping is artificial in nature, because artificial is safer to vape than natural... natural flavors are often oil based, which is again not healthy to inhale.
Nic River is good
Thanks for the lead, man! Got everything I needed to start from there. Gonna branch out in future orders, but a one stop shop non-kit is nice for that first order.
same for me. I'm limited on which vendors I can order from and they were the only place that I could get all the essentials all in one spot. the nic was the only item that failed to meet my expectations. not saying it isn't quality but on my next order I'm going to invest more on a better brand, like that Chemnovatic stuff people can't stop talking about
New mixer here! I've ordered some NicSelect nicotine solution for my mixes and I find it gives a harsh burning feeling in my throat vs pressure feeling in my chest that I get from premium juices. Do you think I should try liquid barn nicotine or another more expensive brand? Or am I not mixing something properly? An example of a mix i did was 5% TFA swedish gummies, 3mg nic, 70/30 PG/VG, and it still roasted my throat. I'm very frustrated :(
What is the ratio of your nic?
There are people who say Swedish Gummy has a harsh throat hit. I don’t think it’s that good of a solo flavor.
I'm new to making my own e-juice. i have tried so many different mixes but i failed all of them. but now i found the flavors that i love. it kinda worked for me but it doesn't feel right this is what i used:
Mango-TFA 4%
Orange Mandarin-TFA 4%
Pineapple-TFA 6%
Berry Mix-TFA 4%
Juicy Peach-TFA 4%
Ripe Strawberry-TFA 4%
it came out really strong. can someone help me please. thank you ^_^
Is that one recipe? 26% is pretty high.
>Geniuses
it is one recipe. no wonder why i kept smelling the mix all day long.