Used a litre bottle today to bulk mix some menthol. A thought dawned on me after I had mixed it and given it a shake.
Is this a bad idea due to how much free space there is in the bottle ? The main reason I started to think this was due to people mentioning oxidisation muting flavours.
I used a big bottle with lots of free spaces because its easier to shake and takes less time to get it nicely mixed.
You're fine. If anything it just makes it easier to shake.
Thats why I do it, shaking lots of little bottles is getting annoying
I 200ml at a time in 250ml rinsing bottles.
Enough room left to make the shaking efficient, and a nice spout to transfer the juice to smaller bottles.
Something like this?
I'm 300 in a 500ml is perfect for mixing, 1L is a bit extra bit so long as you store it somewhere dark, cool and dry, your totally in the clear. It will easily last a year.
Thats great to hear. Just ordered some 500ml bottles for this
Just keep in mind you probably don’t want to keep all your mixes and think the flavor will last a year... heavy custards yes but I think that’s it... many fruits fade and for sure citrus.. so just be mindful of the recipe you’re making in that size and how long it w store....;))
Oh aha, well it will work but it's not really ideal. 60ml unicorn bottles are the best tbh, larger bottles dent easily after some use and they look like shit. 500ml is fair if your mixing by volume, but mixing by weight with a scale is the way to go and it's accurate enough you can just go ahead and make small batches by weight and be just as accurate. If you like larger batches to reduce instrumental error, buy yourself a volumetric flask or a beaker and then put it in 60 ml unicorn bottles. I find 30ml unicorn bottles are too small, a pain to fill and dent just as bad and labels like to lift. 60ml unicorn bottles are definitely the goldilocks zone, but the old school 30ml that's not a unicorn bottle is fair since it's essentially the same diameter as a 60ml unicorn.
>use ELR for all your recipes, once you get used to it it's a great tool. I find it's too easy to loose or get recipes mixed up that you simply wrote down whereas if you do it on ELR it does all the math for you and timestamps the recipe.
You don't have to be mixing by volume to use a 500ml container. I use these for my larger batches, and I have no issues putting them on the scale.
I have a set of glass measuring cylinders ranging from 1ml to 100ml along with numerous syringes. Never thought about doing it by weight, will look into it.
Your right with the instrumental error, thats one of the reason I do it. I still remember the whole class we had on it form school.
Who sells 500ml bottles?
I can't say for sure, but from personal experience, it seems like my mixes shake somehow better if I leave some empty space in the bottle. So if it's a 30ml unicorn that gets filled to the brim when I mix 30ml into it, I'll usually do like 27ml, just to get some empty space. If I don't leave a little bit of space, it seems like the juices don't mix as well, and tend to separate a bit.
So, except for the oxidation aspect that some other people have already mentioned, you're golden.
Honestly it depends on the nic concentration. If it is high nic (12mg/mL and up) you run the risk of a shorter lifespan due to the high amount of oxygen in the head space. Just keep and eye on it and make sure it doesn't start turning pink.
would like to know what recipe was so worth it to make 300ml?! lol
Big batch of menthol, I use it a lot in between testing other flavours and my family uses it as well. Menthol is a flavour that is hard to get wrong so I thought I might as well save time by making a batch.
Got plans to make a 250ml batch of numerous juices that I recently received once I have finished testing the different percentages. Flavours include: Pink Lemonade CAP (love it), Twisty (which is really good), NY Cheesecake CAP (great so far, need 1 week left on steep).
Why not just transfer the juice into smaller 100ml or 50ml bottles. Problem solved, no?
I have 3x 120ml bottles that I no longer use. I vape about 15ml / day so it takes me a bit over a week to go through one, if I only vape that flavor. At 1 or 2 weeks the air:juice ratio makes the last ~10% of the bottle a bit too oxidized for my taste, but it was doable.
But I don't want to vape only one flavor, so vaping from all 3 of them I would get about a month and the bottom ~50% of each bottle was too oxidized for me. It was still vapable and delivered my nic fix, but not really pleasant.
I got ten 60ml bottles and it's working out much better. I now have 5 flavors to choose from at any given time, and the juice in the other 5 has about 20 days to steep before I finish off the 5 I'm working on. The oxidation never gets to be too much for me, even down to the last drop.
YMMV.
You can taste the oxidization after 2 weeks?! I'm gonna call bullshit on that....
It gets like, sickly sweet? And I don't use sweetener or anything. Hard to describe, but it definitely loses something. The juice also gets really amber colored no matter the flavor, but moreso for the darker flavors. It depends on how much air is in the bottle, and how much time that air has to work on the juice, but it definitely goes south. Like I said it's still vapable and everything, just not the full rich flavor I get at the beginning of a bottle. And I do hot baths and shake the hell out of them, so it's not inadequate mixing to blame. And I store them out of the way of sunlight.