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Don'tcha just hate it when... of your 16 cherry flavors, you can only find 15, and one of the ones you needed was that 16th one?
note: not exaggerating. those are the actual numbers.
That is the most general question I've ever seen here. So what cherry are you looking for?
My bottle of INW Cherries disappeared. Had to adjust the recipe to use only TFA Cherry Extract. I suppose I could've added .25% LA Cherry, but... and I should make a few testers for the GL and RF cherries too... but I'll probably wait until my SA cherry flavors arrive...
So I’m trying to clone a juice from my local store and I think I have the flavours down but theirs is somehow thicker/gloopy Like compared to mine. I’m using just vg and the only pg comes from the concentrate and the nicotine.
Where am I going wrong?
Maybe they use a smaller percentage of flavours? Does it matter though?
Sorry I should’ve been more specific the flavours are almost their but they’re not THE flavour. Would it be sweetener thickening it?
The flavors would only affect consistency if they were vg based instead of pg or vice versa, which I doubt. Not many people use vg flavors. It's likely your base or a simple error.
That being said, not using the exact flavors is going to result in totally different taste and texture from company to company.
Is there a better papaya than TFA? It has this green rind/skin aftertaste that I really don't like, as if you put a whole papaya in a blender, that really ruins recipes for me.
What percentage have you used it at?
I've mainly used it in the godda da vida recipe which is 2%, noticed a similar thing with a recipe at 6% (strangely the bad flavour was not more pronounced at this percentage compared to 2%).
What's up and thank you for reading! All the amazing people here have helped me learn so much about juices and how to make them. About 4-5 years ago when I was really into it, there used to be these spreadsheets with flavors from different companies and a recommend percentage use for nearly all flavors. Not looking for any recipes but just individual recommendations. Is anyone able to help? Thank you so much ahead of time.
Here's a link to the info for Flavorah . . .
https://www.flavorah.com/resources-information/safety/
I wish all the companies had this info posted.
Haven't seen a spreadsheet for a long time but this is a good resource. just type in which flavor you're looking for and sort by number of recipes.
The reason is there isn't much curation for flavorings on e-liquid-recipes but if you sort by recpies you're more likely to find the right flavor with the information you want. here's an example of users being unable to follow naming conventions. sorting by # of recipes fixes the issue.
Take those percentages with a huge grain of salt. There are some bullshitters on ELR
if you're sorting by # of recipes i find that they're more likely to be a good starting point. i ignore single flavor percentages entirely.
this is for TFA Honeydew, i would think that with 19336 recipes using this flavor the 3-3.5% is a fine starting point. I'd then go into some of the more top rated recipes and see where they used it and from that decide how i want it to be worked in to my recipe.
If anyone knows please can you tell me if I have to download the gaming app Discord to get to a discussion type forum on ATF? It says live chat and directs me there and then says join diyordie....I know Wayne at diyordie is also involved in gaming but I’m not a gamer I just want to reach queue( sorry don’t know his name exactly) to help me w my issue on ATF..
You can use the give feedback link on every page, or catch me on "All The Flavors" on the DIY or DIE discord, or open a topic at forum.alltheflavors.com or you can mail support@alltheflavors.com , or call or text or facebook message or snail mail me at the info shown on the "contact" page, linked to at the bottom of every page on All The Flavors.
It isn't THAT hard to reach me, is it? Do you need me to install a private telegraph line to your bathroom? :)
Discord isn’t a gaming app. It’s a chat app. There are forums on ATF already.
So the answer is yes? Forums besides Discord? I’m confused I guess...and u think this would b the best way to reach queue? ( ATF dude)
The easy approach would be to PM /u/queuetue and chat. Of course, whether there would be any results...
If you can convince him, try suggesting the ability to use PDO or PEG instead of PG in the calculator. And see when new flavors will be added to the database.
I'm trying to make a silky-smooth cream base vs a "bite-y" vanilla cream base. Any suggestions for flavors with a silky quality?
I have TPA Butter but I'm not sure if it would work. I'm thinking FA Oba Oba might work better but would have to order that one.
Was it FLV Coconut or Sweet Coconut that was cocobutter?
Pretty sure it's FLV Coconut. The one I don't have because it's $17 for a 10ml at diy-ejuice.com. :( I wonder why it's so expensive and if it's actually worth it? Their Sweet Coconut is lovely and sets the bar pretty high.
FA Cream Fresh and FLV Cream are good for the smooth element, then add your favourite vanilla(s).
Hey, my favorite is still Watermelon Chill by Element. Unfortunately, it's a bit pricy as I pay around €30 for 100ml.
Does anyone of you have an idea on how to "imitate" the taste with aromas available in Europe? I already tried a few but just couldn't reach that clear watermelon flavor.
What have you tried?
Watermelon from German Flavours and another German brand which name I forgot. It tasted way too artificial.
Edit: also one from a friend which was Malaysian I believe.
German Flavours is a pretty atrocious brand unfortunately. Out of some 20 flavors I've tried, only 2 or 3 were even decent.
Watermelon has been flavor of the week twice and it's coming up again in a few weeks, give it a read. Here is the first one and here is the second.
You can also check out individual reviews here.
I'd there a flavouring out there that I can only describe as a violet floral? Trying to remix a remix of Betelgeuse (mango, pine, peach etc) but it has a unique flavour on top. Cheers
Are these pumps safe to use for dispensing custards that are steeped in glass bottles? The threads are stainless and the polypropylene tubing is a high density plastic, similar to HDPE, so I'm thinking it should be good to go.
Been using the same one on my gallon jugs of PG for a few years and it still works great. Gave up on using it for VG because it was just slow AF trying to pump it out. Should work fine as long as your Custard isn't too high in VG and even then it wouldn't be bad for filling 30-120ml at a time.
Has anyone tried the Big Mouth Boston bottles? I’m tired of Chubby Gorillas leaking everywhere and want to try something new. Unfortunately the only place I can find them is in 100 packs at dropperbottles.com and I’m hesitant to take that plunge without hearing how they are.
I've been using them since they came out. They're awesome for mixing in and easier to squeeze than the PET gorillas and it's much easier to pull the tips off to refill. But if by leaking you're talking about how the cap doesn't really seal right and there's always some juice pooling around the tip... they're the same caps as the chubby gorillas and have the same problem, although not quite as bad.
These are what I have been using. They don't leak at all and they squeeze well and they are super nice! Highly Recommend!
Hey guys, I've been trying to find a recipe for a juice I absolutely love but can't quite seem to. It's called Smurf tears by Maple leaf Vapes. It's definitely got bubblegum in it, I think there May be some watermelon as well, possibly even honeydew. My questions are, does anybody know the recipe or something similar maybe with a different name? And secondly, if I want to mix bubblegum and watermelon, how do I go about percentages? As I know watermelon is a very strong flavor. Thanks in advance guys!
Try the Clone request thread
As for bubblegum and watermelon, you'd have to say which ones you're using. Not all watermelon flavors are very strong.
You can look up your flavors on ATF or ELR to see what percentage they're being used at in order to find a good starting place.
This seems like it might be something close to what you are looking for, or at least a good starting point for flavours/percentages:
Cap-Sweet Strawberry- 9%
Cap-Blueberry -10%
TFA-Sweet Cream - 5%
TFA-Dulce De Leche- 2%
TFA-Vanilla Swirl -3%
TFA-Sweetner- 1.2%
Ethyl Maltol- 1.2%
The bubble gum flavour you mention might be the Ethyl Maltol, which is a sweetner often compared to cotton candy. Hope this helps.
Source:
https://www.kritikalmass.net/proddetail.asp?prod=Smurf-Jooce
While this recipe does sound awesome, i don't think it's the same, I don't taste blueberry at all in it, and I do have cap blueberry. Thanks for the info tho!
Looking to mix CAP double watermelon, FA Apple Fuji and Lemon sicily. Will it make a nice lemonade style juice or something similar? Maybe add a little bit of menthol to kick it up
Anyone got recommendation for rough ratios, cant find anything online. ( second time doing doing own flavour blend and still not tasted the first one due to still steeping)
If you want Lemonade, get LA Lemonade. Lemon Sicily is a great flavor, but it’s more like Limoncello than Lemonade.
Could still be good, just not sure about the Double Watermelon.
Try 3 %, 1 % and 3 %, respectively.
note that recipe needs a couple days to steep, unlike most fruit-only blends, since FA Lemon ~~Pledge~~ Sicily takes some time to settle down when used over 1%
Would you say the new One Drop flavors are basically the RFSC reformulated I think I read here... I’m asking bcuz I want to sub using the strawberry and wanted to know if I should treat it as I would the RFSC Strawberry. Of course on the bottle it says use 2-3ml per oz... sorry but I don’t calculate that well..😩😂. ( I used to be smart not sure what happened lmao! Thank the vaping Gods for y’all) What I want to do is put Rf one drop for strawberry and rfsc watermelon for the wc was thinking 1.5% on that maybe same for strawberry one drop??
Just for bleeps n giggles I’ll post recipe too and ask for % just to b thorough
All tfa recipe by Fizz
MUSTARD TIGER
Strawberry 5%
Dragon fruit 1%
Pina colada 4%
Watermelon Candy 5%
Honeydew .3%
Yo! Can someone who uses eJuiceMeUp program do me a favour?
Can you tell me what flavours are used in the Donkey Kong / Donkey Khan (not sure of name) recipe in it's database?
I am ordering flavours today but having trouble loading software on laptop at home (and can't use work PC). I received a small bottle from a friend of a friend that I was know DK that they made from eJuiceMeUp, though, and would like to make sure I have those flavours on hand when I figure out why the install is hanging on Win10 laptop :P
The default installation of eJuiceMeUp doesn't have a recipe by that name. Maybe you have the wrong name or your friend got the recipe from one of these places . . .
It must be either a wrong name or an imported recipe, I guess, because what I am vaping is a straight strawberry banana cream blend that doesn't look like it came from those recipes, heh. Maybe a hint of dragonfruit too...
In any case thanks a lot for chiming in! Back to the drawing board and order delayed indefinitely, heh.
Banana peels are actually edible if cooked.
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Ooops! I just rechecked - there are several recipes for "Donkey Khan" on ELR - and they match the description you gave. Seems to be a clone for a juice from Humble Juice Co. Guess I shudda checked both name variations - grin.
Take a look at this . . . Recipes containing "Donkey" on ELR
I've seen a lot of concentrates boasting being "Diacetyl, Acetyl-propionyl & Actoin free". What does this mean and is it actually worth purchasing these products over the other available options?
The short version is that these compounds have been linked with a potentially higher health risk. I say potentially because there is a lot of hysteria to back up a lack of reliable evidence. Search Google for diketones and you'll see what I mean.
On this sub you'll find those who avoid completely, those who don't care to those who actively insist there's no health concern. Without real research I'd suggest you make your own mind up.
As for why you might care? Well, these diketones also seem to be the best molecules for delivering the flavour intended. If I look through my flavour stash I find many of my favourites have some kind of warning attached... a prime example being Cap Vanilla Custard v1. The reason people still use them is because to many they are simply nicer than the diketone free equivalent.
This whole thing has been a bit of a scare for some, so advertising them as diketone free is a good way to market the new range too.
It means that these chemicals have been "flagged" as "could-maybe-be-harmful-possibly" it all depends on your personal preference and your idea of harm reduction. After the research that I have done, I decided that I will continue to use all of these chemicals because I don't believe that the trade off of flavor for possibly being safer, makes it worth it. I believe that you should do your own research on these chemicals and make your own choice.
It means they're trying to manipulate people prone to believing bad science and/or too lazy to research, by pandering to hysteria caused by anti-vaping zealots.
And no, there is no valid reason to purchase such products based solely on those facts. Some products could be described as such, and still be worth buying (like practically any decent fruit flavor) but generally many flavors (such as the TFA DX line, or CAP's V2 line) are almost entirely not worth buying (with extremely rare exceptions).
i first got into diy without real knowledge and got a whole gang of dx and v2. im curious which ones you think are worthwhile since i shelved them fairly quickly. id love to have a use for some of them.
TFA DX Peanut Butter is allegedly better than the original. I'd probably add maybe .25% TFA Butter, to counter the dryness of it, and give it some much-needed DAAP. I've also heard from one person who loves DX Graham Cracker.
Not sure if there's any V2 worth using. Someone may chime in with a suggestion.
I've tried to steer clear of these as much as possible, trying a lot of flavourings like The DX range from TPA/TFA and Cap. Some are good, a few are great and a good few are lacking or bad. It's a trickier path if you want that level or risk mitigation.
Dx peanut butter, dx peach, dx have cream, cap van custard v2 all seem fine to me. Dx cream and dx banana cream are not.
Thanks for the reccomendations :)
New to mixing and attempting to make a fruit mix with the few flavours I have. However I can't seem to taste the flavours that much and it just isn't very strong. One of them is cap harvest berry mixing it a 4%. Does it just need time to steep?
i dont have any experience with cap harvest, but with a forest fruit lemonade mix i have made the flavors mute for me quite quickly. try mixing different concentrations up and trying then out. say like 1, 3, and 5 percent. then see which one is more suitable for you. sometimes less is more.
(Copying my reply here because the thread go bye-bye) I would drop Blueberry to 3%, TFA Apple 2% Cap Harvest 4% TFA Blackberry .25% (IT IS WAYYY STRONG) and Tuti Fruity keep it how it is. I think the problem is that you have too much flavoring. Especially blackberry. I think that is what is muting all your flavorings. Try something like I mentioned above and see how that vapes. If the one you have mixed up steeps, the blackberry will calm a bit, but you will have more of just a generic fruit mix rather than tasting each component together. :)
Cap blueberry 8% Harvest berry 4% Tfa Apple 5% Fa tuti fruti 2% Tfa blackberry 1%
How could I improve this? Should bump harvest berry up to 6% and also does it need any time to steep?
Improve it? Replace TFA Apple with 1.5% FA Fuji. Drop the harvest berry and Cap blueberry, add the blueberry trinity and some FLV cranberry, .5% INW raspberry, 4% TFA raspberry sweet, and maybe a bit of FA black currant. Not sure what the tutti frutti is being used for...
Now, if you want to juggle the percentages without changing the ingredients, that's a different question.
I am wondering about any issues I may run into using high VG juices. I ordered only VG base, but got PG-suspended nicotine and read that flavors can be counted as PG when mixing. I just read pure VG juice can cause mechanical issues, would my estimated 80-85%VG juice cause any problems and if you what sort of issues? I am on the fence if i should order a bit of PG, I will be fine? Will it have any effect on flavor or extend my steep times?
I wouldn't say high VG causes issues itself, but rather your set up may not handle high VG very well. The key with high VG in terms of mechanical performance is wicking - your device needs to be able to keep your coil saturated. I'd suggest researching whatever devices you have and seeing if anyone else has shown how they had it wicking max vg. As a general rule though, RTAs will depend on device and your wicking skills, RDAs will be fine as you have direct control of the wicking.
As for flavour, people say VG mutes flavour and that you'll get more flavour with higher PG levels. This seems to be true, but there are other considerations... VG produces more vapour and a soft mouthful, less throat hit and is also ever so slightly sweet. You'll only notice a big difference in flavour if you make big jumps in ratio. 80/20 and 85/15 might as well be the same to my palate.
All in all I'd suggest you consider it a design decision. Definitely get some PG as you may want to (and should) experiment to find the best vape for you. Myself I mix cream based liquids at MaxVG, bakeries at 80/20 and fruits at 70/30. If in doubt I'd make 70/30 before deciding if I want softer or punchier flavour, and for single flavour or new recipe testing I use 60/40.
I agree with everything that 7 said, but I do want to add that when I started mixing max VG I had to change my tank because it just wasn't wicking well enough. I changed my tank and now I have no issues what-so-ever. I use the Pharaoh RTA and I use 95%-90% VG in all my mixes.
I just say sport the few dollars if you can on your next order for pg. you may find yourself doing nic free at some point like for a small test batch. Sometimes when I know I’m gonna vape a batch of juice to get a flavor idea I’ll go flavorless so I’m not all nicced up. Pg is good to have around too if you want to set up a stealth juice for those times when you need zero clouds. Idk it just seems like too affordable to not have it on hand. Like a bag of flour even though I haven’t baked in ages. Point is: even if you are max vg you may find you want it for various reasons.
Yah, I think I am going to get some PG when I decide on a stealth mod option. I have a little council of wraith squonk box that should fit the bill, but might order one of those little pod systems. Mix a high PG, high nic salt juice to limit cloud and maximize strength. Maybe even get one of those smoke buddies for extra stealth points.
I've just been trying to transition away from the throat hit as an extra step of removal from smoking cigs. It's been over a year now since I quit and honestly haven't thought of going back once, they smell so bad now, I can't really see how I smoked so long in the first place. All the same I want to train myself away from taking it back up as much as possible.
Would it be feasible to order 100 mg salt in 50/50 base and add flavor directly to it, could leave me with 80mg strength and about 70/30 pg/vg. Maybe get more 48 in PG, some 100 in vg and cut in the flavor to give me an 80/20 pg/vg mix and 60-70ish mg strength.
I’ve swung the other way I think lol. I dropped my nic down to 1mg but subohm chain vape. So I got some mtl tanks to try to cut down on that cloud chucking addiction. So I upped the nic to 6-9 depending. Either way, I still probably overdo it.
As for mixing nic base, I’m sure if you do all the calculations you can do anything. It just seems complicated to me. I use vg nic at 48 and when I’m mixing 1’s I barely use any at all. So I manually add pg and vg. I eyeballled and filled a small bottle at 30/70 pg/vg. Basically made my own premix. But I’m not particularly concerned about my mixes. I treat them like food and am happy to have it more or less different at every meal as long as there is less hassle around prep. I’m ok with a chance mix being great and one coming out a little meh.
I drop in nic, flavors, fill with premix. Half the time I’m off by a bit. God bless happy accidents.
Hi. I'm trying to mix a simple recipe for a friend of mine which swears by one (and only one) flavor profile: Lime raspberry... So I bough myself some Inawera's raspberry (concentrate) and some TFA's Key Lime. This friend says that she wants to taste the lime more than the raspberry. I was just wondering at what percentages I should start my mix (and adjust from there). I have heard that INW raspberry is pretty potent. Not sure about TFA key lime.
This might turn out to be a harsh juice. I would start with %1.5 KL and %0.5 Raspberry to start. maybe add 0.25% Sweetener, 0.5% INW Cactus, and maybe 0.25% INW Pear. Let it sit for at least 24 hours before trying it. I think this might be the starting point for this juice.
Thanks for the reply. When I receive these flavors, the only other ones I will have in my very limited beginner stash are going to be TFA strawberry, TFA strawberry sweet, TFA vanillin 10%, TFA vanilla bean ice cream, CAP vanilla custard v1, inw rich cinnamon and real flavor orange cream... Would any of those be able to make this juice less harsh without killing the profile?
One lime that is very tasty is INW Shisha Lime. It would probably be a good one to mix with the TFA Key lime. Probably it would be better to replace the TFA though. There are several limes that are much better and not as harsh (FA Lime Tahity, INW Lime, INW Shisha Lime).
> Possibly a very small amount of Orange Cream although even at a low percentage will add a sort of creamy element to this juice. Which sounds pretty nice to me. You can also try sweet strawberry at also a small amount. It will also add something extra but not bad either. You could also try “breathing” the juice which I don’t know that I would suggest most times but you can try leaving the cap off for a few hours. It should help some of the harsh notes “escape”.
Key Lime on its own is going to be harsh. It needs a sweeter lime or a bit of sweetener to tone it down.
Won't the raspberry sweeten it though?
No.
INW raspberry is a very floral-forward raspberry. If you mix .25% INW raspberry with 3-4% TFA raspberry sweet, that's the raspberry you probably want. And FA Lime Tahity (Cold Pressed) is more likely the lime you want to use, unless you are going to insert other flavors. 1.5% TFA Honeysuckle would do well, as would .25% INW Cactus or FA Pear. And .1% FA Lemon Sicily probably wouldn't hurt.
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This is a DIY Ejuice forum.. No idea what any of the stuff you're asking is.. Probably the wrong SR m8.
So you guys don't have any experience mixing some extra "medical" properties in to your vape juice?
NicSelect as good as Ultra Premium?
If you're talking about 'Ultra Premium' from Heartland that is Chemnovatic which is also sold by VapersTek. I'd say most people would consider Chemnovatic nic to be better than NicSelect.
Also, it's cheaper at VapersTek.
Can we make a 'Popular Nicotine Companies' list in the sidebar? Or just what are your favorite/best nicotine sources?
Here is something I made. Need to add more sources but that covers the most common ones.
One of my buddies wants a solid cappuccino recipe. The only significant suggestion he gave was that he didn’t want it to be sweet. I’ve used a sweetener at 1 percent in a recipe before and he didn’t like it. So it could be mocha, french vanilla, Irish cream, or any kind of cappuccino. Recommendations please!
Looking to make a salty and sweet cantaloupe. I’m going to use CAP cantaloupe as a base with CAP honeydew as a sweetener. But I’m looking at saline for the saltiness and have no clue where to begin beyond buying sterile saline. Help!