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Weekly General Questions AND New Mixers Thread - Week of March 26, 2018
submitted over 7 years ago by AutoModeratorBootylicious

OK mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by benphillips_over 7 years ago

I was considering getting LA lemonade and CAP lemon Sicily to replace LB Pink Lemonade in my mixes. Are there any other lemon flavours that would go well in a strawberry lemonade mix?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Those are both good. I use FA Lemon Sicily instead of CAP Italian Lemon Sicily to add to LA Lemonade. There’s really no better Lemonade.

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by benphillips_over 7 years ago

Thanks!

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I use LA Lemonade with either FA Lemon Sicily or INW Lemon Mix. I have another lemonade type flavor from JF I need to test, it's supposed to be pretty good. I think it would do well with the LA/INW blend based on how it's supposed to be, but there's always some unpredictability.

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years ago

I have Flv lemonade it’s very good and also fw pink lemonade is good and I have both JF lemon and lemon juicy they hold their lemons well....all work well for lemonade and pink lemonade:)

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by imNAchogrlover 7 years ago

And don’t forget a touch of ws-23 for your cooling

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by benphillips_over 7 years ago

I use koolada, is WS-23 any different?

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Yes.

Koolada is WS-3. It's twice the potency of WS-23, but WS-23 is usually used in a 30% solution whereas Koolada is a 10% solution... and WS-23 doesn't have the same issues with generating off tastes.

Also, the cooling effect is slightly different, so combining both actually gives much better cooling than either alone.

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by patg55over 7 years ago

My old man is 85. He has smoked the pipe and cigars most his life but has had to quit smoking tobacco due to a bad chest infection. Just wondering what would be a tasty cigar tobacco to make up for him with the following tobacco flavours? He just got an Aspire Breeze (6mg 60/40) but is getting nothing from the commercial tobacco juice.

Flavours. FLV Cured/ FLV Native/FLV Red Burley/ FLV Kentucky Blend/ INW Cuban Cigar Absolute

CHEERS in advance guys.

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by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

For an 85-year old man who smoked pipe and cigars and now has an Aspire Breeze? I'd mix all five of these together, something like this:

  • 2% INW Cuban Cigar Absolute
  • 2% FLV Red Burley
  • 1.5% FLV Native
  • 1.5% FLV Kentucky Blend
  • 1% FLV Cured Tobacco

Hopefully someone who knows more about tobaccos than I do will come along with an even better suggestion.

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by patg55over 7 years ago

Thanks a million Dave. By the way, have ordered some stuff to mix up your apple cider pie. Looks f$$kin delicious and dare I say bold.

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by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

You're welcome.

Even if you wind up not being a fan of the apple cider pie, I'm sure you'll find a use for whichever ingredients you had to order. They're all good ingredients.

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by ChemicalBurnVictimover 7 years agoresident tobacco expert

I think that looks pretty good. I’d personally leave out the Cured because I get a similar note in a few of the FLV that gets a little weird when there’s too many together, and Cured has the most of it. Probably a personal thing though.

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by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Haha, when I was suggesting this I first thought Cured at 3% (others lower) and then I thought, what if OP's pop gets that dryer sheet thing that Chemmy gets? Better lower that.

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by ChemicalBurnVictimover 7 years agoresident tobacco expert

Do you have any flavors with cocoa or coffee notes? Those would work well for a cigar. Along with something like FA Vienna Cream.

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by patg55over 7 years ago

I have INW Milk Chocolate( newer version unfortunately); FLV Milk Chocolate ; FLV Milk and Honey

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by ChemicalBurnVictimover 7 years agoresident tobacco expert

Well shoot, I don’t have those chocolates, and I’m not sure a milk chocolate is what we’d want. Milk and Honey might be able to work for something like an Acid Blondie though. So going for something along those lines:

Native- 1.5%

Red Burley- .8%

Tobacco Absolute Cuban- 2%

Kentucky- 1.5%

Milk and Honey- 1.5%

I’m child free this weekend and my wife is at work so there’s nothing to stop me from going to Mix this right now and let you know if it sucks. Be right back!

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by Bassmuttover 7 years ago

Favorite passion fruit concentrate? I have fa , its ok just wondering if there's better.

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by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Personally I like the taste of FA's best, but I can't really vape it. Rips my throat to shreds. PUR is close second flavor-wise and painless, so that one wins. FE Passion fruit I also enjoy, but it's both slightly candied and slightly floral. FLV third, not bad, just kinda dry and a little odd. CAP, FW, and especially TFA Passion fruits I do not recommend at all. Dirt and cat piss and such.

If you don't get any irritation from FA Passion Fruit, you've already got the best most accurate passion fruit flavor. Some people aren't bothered by it. But if you're trying to make something that many others will enjoy, though, try PUR, FE, or FLV, because there are plenty of others who call FA Passion Fruit "FA Throat Razors" and won't try your recipes or enjoy your juices that use it.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5zc2rb/dont_take_a_pass_on_this_flavor_of_the_week/

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by mrlutherover 7 years ago

Any opinions on JF Biscuit? How does it compare to other Biscuit Flavours? Thanks!

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5w1416/jf_biscuit/

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by mrlutherover 7 years ago

I saw this.Just looking for other input as well. Thanks!!

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by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

"INW Biscuit Killer" pretty much covers it

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by nakedzover 7 years ago

You know those cookies that come in the big blue tin? It tastes a lot like those.

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by mrlutherover 7 years ago

Strong butter note? Gritty AP like FA Cookie?

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by nakedzover 7 years ago

These are my notes: "4% 3 day steep: Buttery biscuit - light and greasy sweet. Tastes a lot like those biscuits from the big blue tin. Great all by itself, like it."

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by mrlutherover 7 years ago

Just wanted to post an update...I mixed this at 3% and it is spot on to Royal Dansk Blue Tin cookies.....its really good!! Thanks for the help!!

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by nakedzover 7 years ago

Great! I've just discovered it works really well with authentic Lemon flavors, if that's your thing.

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by SuhDude591over 7 years ago

Hey! So I'm new to this whole mixing your own juice thing. Got into it cuz it's cheap and my brother made maybe the best juice I've ever had (a slurricane clone (peach papaya guava). Anyway, I ordered a bunch of flavors to try to make a recipe for juicy pear jelly bellies that I found here. Turned out to be mostly a bust. Very harsh.

So I tried making another flavor just mixing fuji and ripe strawberry. also pretty harsh. Crazy cuz the slurricane he made was an INSTANT shake and vape. Like literally.

Anyway now I have all these flavors and I don't know what to do with them. LA watermelon, tfa pear, fa pear, fuji, ripe strawberry, kiwi, cactus, cold press lime tahiti, and gummy candy. I find recipes online but I'm always missing a couple ingredients. is there some kinda database I can type the flavors I have into, and it'll give me recipes? I have no clue what percentages to use for various flavors or what flavors will work well, and dont wanna waste shit by making bad juice that I won't vape.

2 points
 
by Milenk0over 7 years ago

there is a weekly "suggest a recipe for my flavors" thread in this sub. also alltheflavors has a place to input your flavorings, as well as eliquidrecipes.

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by SuhDude591over 7 years ago

thanks! I just found a neat one on eliquidrecipes. 2.5 cactus 1 fuji 3.5 kiwi 6 ripe strawberry. gonna try it out, has a bunch of glowing reviews.

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by MasterBeernutsover 7 years ago

That is a lot of cactus. I'd do 0.25 cactus, 2 Fuji, 1.5 Kiwi, 6 Ripe Strawberry. Try this if you don't like the ELR recipe.

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Check the age of the recipe. If it's from more than two years ago, the numbers are gonna be seriously inflated.

Also, 2.5 cactus is gonna be a aloe flavor, just so you know.

Also, of the flavors you have, I use four. A fifth, I only use mixing for others (LA Watermelon...can't stand it myself) and I might use gummy candy at some point (although I may have researched it and chose not to, hard to recall) but...

Also:
.25% FA Pear
.25% INW Cactus
.75% FA Lime Tahity
1.5% FA Fuji

Try that mix. Two day steep, if it's harsh, I'd say you need better nic.

2 points
 
by thepatient23over 7 years agoFrugivore

Read this

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by br4d24over 7 years ago

So im gonna start mixing up some different batches and try to build my first proper cupcake recipe from the ground up. Before I started wasting my ingredients i figured id ask around and see what everyones favorite cupcake flavorings, combinations and bases are. Going to mix up a few different ideas and see what i like most, and then proceed from there. Any help is much appreciated, just want to get a solid starting point.

2 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngover 7 years agoThanks for reading this flair

Highly recommend CAP Vanilla Cupcake (I prefer v2) and CAP Cake Batter v1 for a cupcake base.

2 points
 
by br4d24over 7 years ago

Dangm, forgot i had CAP Cake batter, that could work nicely. What percentage do you think works best with CAP Vanilla Cupcake? I have only used this flavor at 0.5% a few times, sometimes it worked great, other times it was too high, seems like it can be finicky to mix at times.

2 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Full disclosure: I can't stand vaping bakeries.

That said, you want JF Yellow Cake, since FW Yellow Cake is...not exactly healthy to vape. Now, depends what kind of cupcake you want, but IRL the One True Cupcake is chocolate... so I'm gonna say you want either Double Chocolate Clear or HS Australian Chocolate. LA Cream Cheese Icing for a topping, unless you'd prefer a marzipan based frosting. Probably you need a bit more to blend some flavors (chocolate to the YC, and maybe also turning the frosting chocolate or minty) and to keep the frosting separate from the cupcake. One of the bakery experts should have tips for those...

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by br4d24over 7 years ago

Ah i guess i could have elaborated a bit more, my bad. Im wanting to eventually end up with a moist kind of vanilla cupcake base, and some dragonfruit frosting. Preferably a cream cheese style icing. But for now im just trying to build a solid vanilla cupcake base.

3 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"
  1. Ick.
  2. DIYFS for your vanilla. Still LA Cream Cheese icing and JF YC.
2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

CAP Vanilla Cupcake or PUR Simply Cake

2 points
 
by amidjoover 7 years ago

Hello, I am looking for a good Weight Scale for DIY Stuff. Any recommandations ?

2 points
 
by JooseMakerWannabeover 7 years ago

The one I see recommended most is the AWS LB-501. You can usually find it in stock at Amazon for less than $30. I bought one and it works great! It weighs down to .01 which is what you need. There are other scales that are a bit cheaper-maybe someone who knows other scales that are good will chime in.

Edit: grammar

1 points
 
by BlazeDemBeatzover 7 years agoMentholatier

Smart weight scales on Amazon run about 15$.

1 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Depends. Where are you from? Answer depends on that, since different options are more economical depending on where you live.

What you want:

external power supply
No autoshutoff
.01g accuracy (minimum)
500g capacity (minimum)

If you're us based, the AWS one is probably best. In the UK there's a different one that is best value for money. Canada... it depends. Best you can usually get is the USB powered scale from fasttech that handles 600g (unless you catch a sale at the right time,

2 points
 
by plotneyover 7 years ago

can anyone recommend a reputable UK supplier of all things vape diy, especially flavors?

6 points
 
by Apexifiedover 7 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

http://chefsflavours.co.uk

2 points
 
by garamasalaover 7 years ago

Rainbowvapes, darkstar, flavourboss, vapable. I personally like rainbowvapes, very quick and cheap delivery and you usually get something free thrown in.

1 points
 
by cryzzgranthamover 7 years ago

Vapable have an Easter deal on 10% off and three random concentrates. They deliver within 2 days tracker with dhl also. Good guys

2 points
 
by eggsaladsandwichheadover 7 years ago

I'm a custard ho.
 
I admit it. I have a bad, bad problem.
 
I own all the main flavor companies custards, and I've been messing around trying to make the mother of all custards.
 
There are tons of recipes I've tried, but I'm curious about just one-
 

I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried mixing them all together. Surely someone in the history of juice making has mixed this. How did it turn out?
 
If it turned out to be actually good, will you share with me please?
 
It can have other ingredients too, but mainly I'm curious if mixing all the custards, with purpose (ie, "Less of Custard A because it has off notes after 2%." "More of Custard B because it's brand of vanilla is amazing and needs to stand out", etc) works... Or does it end up being a muddled mess?
 
Those who are expert mixers: can you tell, without bothering to actually mix this, if it's a good or bad idea?
Thanks!

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

That’s probably very unnecessary and will not result in a good time.

2 points
 
by eggsaladsandwichheadover 7 years ago

Well technically nothing is necessary except breathing eating and shitting. However there are many other things I want to try and am curious about. Like what would happen if I mixed all the custards I had. I don't want to waste them though, if it's going to end up a mess. So what do you think is the most different brands one could mix and have it turn out very well? One?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

It really depends on what you are attempting to achieve. But I don’t think you need to mix more than one kind of custard together. I definitely don’t think it’s going to result in anything earth-shattering.

INW Custard is much more versatile than CAP VC.

2 points
 
by Gfurstover 7 years ago

Can I get some opinions over additives? I have:

  • Acetyl pyrazine (TPA)
  • Smooth (TPA)
  • Sour (TPA)

I'm asking because usually this information is all over the place. I like to know some guidelines, like do they pair best, how much to use, wether not to mix them together (like having sour and smooth together would nullify their effect).

Additionally, how do you guys try out new flavors? Do you always make single favor 10 ml batches? That quantity seems overkill for me to try out, specially if something its really bad. However making lower quantity, like 5ml, makes it riskier to miss the ratios.

2 points
 
by JooseMakerWannabeover 7 years ago

lotsa people make 10ml sft, and sometimes use half to mix and see the results. Sour is pretty much useless, because a real "sour" has yet to be found that works. Acetyl Pyrazine is one that I see in alot of bakery type recipes, and smooth I'm not familiar with.

1 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

If you want a 'sour' flavor, your best bet is to start experimenting with caffeine, and then a bit of malic acid. Too much of the latter, tho, will mute the hell out of your mix.

1 points
 
by br4d24over 7 years ago

TFA Sour 20% is PG with 20% Malic acid?

2 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Sounds about right. I'd say dissolve as much caffeine into the TFA Sour as it can handle. Add more PG and more caffeine. Then try to get by with .25% or so of the resulting solution.

There's a reason most people don't use TFA Sour... that muting effect.

AP is useful if you want to vape Fritos. Also, it goes in a lot of breakfast cereal mixes, and in small amounts for nutty mixes.

2 points
 
by benphillips_over 7 years ago

Need some secondhand advice for my recipe. http://tjek.nu/r/kt12 (ELR link)

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

What kind of advice? Is something wrong with it?

1 points
 
by benphillips_over 7 years ago

Just wanted some second thoughts. I find it pretty bland and I'm thinking it's because of the LB rainbow sherbet concentrate.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I don't see any LB rainbow sherbet concentrate in the recipe you linked?

But, this might be of interest to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H9Mm359Io4

2 points
 
by 7birb77over 7 years ago

Well so I have: Atmos Lab Lemonade pg (dilute at 5%) Atmos Lab Mint pg (dilute at 5%) I want to make 100ml but I don't know if I should throw in a) 2.5ml/each (5ml) 45ml pg 50ml vg b) 5ml/each (10ml) 40ml pg 50ml vg Also I could not find any recommendations for the steeping time... I heard it's not necessary?

2 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Steeping time varies based on flavors used. I don't think mint requires steeping, and lemonade needs a day or so at most, if it's not decent off the shake.

As to use percentage... never tried those flavors. You can probably get away with less than suggested. Maybe.

2 points
 
by RamboUnchainedover 7 years ago"I Bet I Could Clone That"

I need to offload a bunch concentrates and premixes but have no idea where to post...

3 points
 
by SlashaLOover 7 years agothe diesel mixer

/r/DIYclassifieds and /r/ecigclassifieds will be the place for that. Mainly DIYclassifieds, if I'm correct, ecig is more for hardware.

1 points
 
by RamboUnchainedover 7 years ago"I Bet I Could Clone That"

DIYclassifieds is back up?! I didn't know. Sorry.

1 points
 
by SlashaLOover 7 years agothe diesel mixer

You're good, I know you frequented the old sub. Ya, they put up a new sub, all 0mg liquid sales now as well.

1 points
 
by HYBRID98over 7 years ago

Dm me

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by acesrhighover 7 years ago

I've been mixing Mother of Dragons' Milk and Mother of Gods' Milk (Thank you u/ID10-T they're amazing) for months now and I want to switch it up a bit since I'm finally running low on dragonfruit. I love vanilla custard more than anything. Is there a mix that most people run to as THE vanilla custard mix? Maybe a dragonfruit or Strawberry custard mix to make along side it.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

CAP Vanilla Custard has been the standard for a long time, but I actually prefer using INW Custard + FA Madagascar + CAP NYC as there is only a 3-4 day steeping time.

2 points
 
by acesrhighover 7 years ago

Thanks. I meant a recipe. I've seen CAP and INW suggested a lot. :D

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/73934#custard_now_by_ediblemalfunction

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

You’re welcome, glad you’ve enjoyed them!

2 points
 
by King_SPESTONover 7 years ago

I have a juice that burns through coils really fast (Lemon Twist: Pink Punch Lemonade), but I want to mix it with another juice that is blue colada. Is there a certain amount of the pink punch I could add to get a nice flavor, but not burn my coils out like no other?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Is this a finished juice?

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by King_SPESTONover 7 years ago

I am mixing two finished juices together, but I don't want to put too much of the pink punch lemonade in because it eats through coils.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You aren’t really going to accomplish what you want by doing this. It’s just not going to work.

2 points
 
by Jux360over 7 years ago

So, I'm getting in to diy because seduce juice stopped selling blackjack in max VG, and 70/30 is too throaty. Does anyone have a good clone recipe for it? I hit up the search bar but I only saw one thread from 3 years ago.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

The sidebar will explain that clone requests do not go here. Post to the Clone thread instead.

1 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

True. But people too stupid and/or lazy to read the sidebar are allowed to post to this thread.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Not Clone Requests

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

5% TFA Jackfruit
1% TFA Blackberry
4% TFA Sweetener

That's probably pretty close.

1 points
 
by Jux360over 7 years ago

thanks for the tip, i would have added way too much blackberry. I had CAP blackberry ordered so the first attempt ended up being 10% tfa jackfruit 5%CAP blackberry

i didn't think about sweetener when I ordered flavors, so no sweetener, but i dont love what sweetener does to coils anyway. it ended up pretty close imo but I'm super new to diy so who knows. thanks again for the help

1 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

The "4% TFA sweetener" was just standard "commercial juices use way too much sweetener" shorthand. Probably closer to 1%. But you could always get stevia or xylitol (or the two of those blended) and use a touch, if you want sweetness without using sucralose.

2 points
 
by cryzzgranthamover 7 years ago

I’ve been searching for a mums milk recipe that lacks cheesecake for longer than I can remember... I’ve stumbled upon some information saying that unicorns milk is like mums milk but lacks the cheese cake taste, is this true? Maybe my search can continue

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by chewymidgetover 7 years agoThe Colonel

/r/NoContex

But seriously, most people here don't vape commercial juice so don't be surprised if no one knows. You'd be better off asking /r/electronic_cigarette

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Wtf is mums milk

1 points
 
by chewymidgetover 7 years agoThe Colonel

OP's mom probably just had a kid.

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

One of the infinite shitty cream/strawberry blends.

1 points
 
by tiramolas3over 7 years ago

Try this: 3% tfa strawberry ripe, 5% cap sweet strawberry, 2% tfa vanilla bean ice cream, 1% tfa sweet cream, 0.5% cap super sweet. If you want cheesecake, add 4.5% cheesecake graham crust and cut sweet cream.

1 points
 
by cryzzgranthamover 7 years ago

Thanks for your message homie, 99% of the things I’ve found are basically the same recipe so this sounds promising. May I ask where you found this one?

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by tiramolas3over 7 years ago

It's the mother unicorn milk from Wayne aka diyordie, the substitute is my idea though.

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by kuri_sanTouover 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

PG & VG question from a newb. I quit smoking last year April and even purchased from DIY guys on reddit. I was very impressed.

so my local vape shop had to stop selling juice w/nic (laws) so I decided I'd try DIY. I usually vape max VG with 6mg nic. I know manufactures label max VG when it isn't 100% or whatever. anyway, I want to buy a nice starter kit from nic river but the only options for nic is this but I have no idea which to choose. my guess would be the PG nic. I know there's a 50/50 blend out there but it isn't an option at this site. so which one do I buy?

also, my friend only vapes 3mg nic or less. I assume with the correct math I can still hook him up using this brand's nicotine.

oh, I've only heard about nic salts and don't really want to get into it right now but if you could enlighten me that would be nice.

thanks, guys ...

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by chewymidgetover 7 years agoThe Colonel

You can dilute nicotine to whatever you want. You just can't make the end result concentration higher than the base nicotine concentration.

For a beginner I would recommend PG based nicotine as it's easier to work with. The higher concentration of nicotine you get, max 100mg/ml, the less you use. More bang for you buck.

Buying starter kits isn't really going to save very much as all you need is PG/VG and nicotine. Buy all the flavors in 10ml so you can get more of them as you don't know what you're going to like.

1 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

>For a beginner I would recommend PG based nicotine as it's easier to work with. The higher concentration of nicotine you get, max 100mg/ml, the less you use. More bang for you buck.

I think this is the confirmation I was looking for. thank you. but i'm not sure I understand why it's easier. since I'm going to buy 100% VG, with a PG based nic I can make little adjustments vs. if I bought the VG based nic I couldn't?

>Buying starter kits isn't really going to save very much as all you need is PG/VG and nicotine.

for me I pay close to $11 bucks for 15ml so I'm guaranteed cost savings as long as I mix to my likings. if I continue with DIY I know I can pick and choose my materials as needed but I'm just not there yet. the kit I linked looks promising and the flavors available are in line with what DIY redditors are recommending for the most part.

thanks for the quick reply, I'm placing my order within the next couple of weeks

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

PG based nic is less viscous. It's easier to pour/squeeze than VG based nic, and less prone to having hotspots (where the nic concentration is higher in some places than others)

0 points
 
by wcerviniover 7 years ago

Maybe you are intetest this, 1000 mg/ml. 3 options available, 1000ml, 500ml, 50ml. diluited mix 50ml pure nicotine with 450ml PG = 500ml @100%. You got 500ml nicotine diluited at 100mg/ml. chansflavor.com/1000mg-pure-niocotine-liquid

1 points
 
by chewymidgetover 7 years agoThe Colonel

Why would I be? Using pure nicotine is incredibly dangerous. You shouldn't use anything over 100mg/ml for personal use.

2 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Try vapers tek for your nic. And depending on what flavor profile you like, they're pretty good for flavors too. As mentioned, 100mg/ml PG based nic is what you want, even at 6mg/ml it only accounts for 6% of your final mix. Depending on your recipes... well, I tend to use 48mg/ml VG based nic for max VG blends with recipes using a high percentage of flavors.

2 points
 
by kuri_sanTouover 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

>I tend to use 48mg/ml VG based nic for max VG blends with recipes using a high percentage of flavors.

can you elaborate more on what percentage is considered high? my guess would be anything over 13%. please school me

2 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Yeah, that's about where I would say the flavor concentration is getting into the high range. I'm not comfortable with a higher concentration of PG than about 15-16%, so I'll mix max VG if PG nic would take it too high. And I use PDO or PEG400 to thin a mix some, if needed.

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by kuri_sanTouover 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I'll take a look at vapers tek. what really sold me on this kit is the 500ml X2 VG and/or PG base of my choice. I like higher concentrates of VG but my concern was which nic to use. I think the PG nic is the way to go for a start

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by _MakisupaPolicemanover 7 years ago

Can I flavor my juice with terpenes?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Oils are never a good idea to screw around with when vaping

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by _MakisupaPolicemanover 7 years ago

Thanks, I was just curious

I ordered a couple flavors and some pre-mixed unflavored juice to try out DIY :)

Black Tea Earl Grey Hibiscus Honey Koolada Menthol Mango Passion Orange Guava Sweet Raspberry

All from TFA

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Yeah, you don’t want to order random flavors starting out. You want to find recipes first. You’ve got a few duds in your list.

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by garamasalaover 7 years ago

> Mango Passion Orange Guava

You could make something like this, although you will need to adjust the percentages.

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

> Honey

Hope you have a hazmat suit.

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by acesrhighover 7 years ago

Any recommended merchants? I have purchased from HeartlandVapes before and they seem to be one of the better priced places. Anywhere else you prefer? Any current sales going on that merchants couldn't post due to new rules?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

There is a nice list in the sidebar. My go-to vendors are BCF and Nicotine River if you can get your order over $50 for free shipping.

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by acesrhighover 7 years ago

Thanks. I must have missed it. I skimmed it a few times and didn't see it. Thanks.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

They may have taken it out as per new rules

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by jasontsr14over 7 years ago

Gremlin DIY is my goto.

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by kuri_sanTouover 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

VG - Vegetable Glycerin. I'm gonna buy a kit from nic river and realized I'm gonna need more VG in the future. as far as quality goes I assume they're all the same. if not, what vendor/s do you recommend?

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by jasontsr14over 7 years ago

I've been buying from Amazon the last two years. No problems, no issues. currently $24.97 Glycerin Vegetable Kosher USP - 1 Gallon - 10.5 lbs. (168 oz.) - USP - KOSHER - Pharmaceutical Grade Essential Depot

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by Blitz00over 7 years ago

Make a $50 order from nic river. It's like $13/gal cheapest I have found it. Shipping is crazy though so spend enough to get the free shipping. They have good pricing on flavorings and nic as well.

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by Bassmuttover 7 years ago

I use the same no issues.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

VG is VG if it’s USP. The kit from NR is fine, but you are better off buying everything individually.

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by kuri_sanTouover 7 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I don't know what you mean by USP. I know I can buy everything separately but the kit is worth it for now. thank you, I appreciate any and all input/advice

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

“A chemical grade of sufficient purity to meet or exceed requirements of the United States Pharmacopeia (USP); acceptable for food, drug, or medicinal use; may be used for most laboratory purposes.”

USP or your country’s equivalent VG must always be used for vaping.

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by Kindred_Appleover 7 years ago

Hi, which color does your Flavorah Boysenberry have? The first i ordered was clear, the batch i recieved now has a bit of a yellowish orange color.

I am asking because the flavour is also a bit dull maybe it's related to the color change?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Where did you order from?

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by leapinglabratsover 7 years ago

TFA? Mine has a yellow tint.

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by Kindred_Appleover 7 years ago

No Flavorah

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by SynesthesiaBrahover 7 years ago

1: Is TFA Brown Sugar "Extra" just a more concentrated version of Brown Sugar, or is it a slightly different flavor than Brown Sugar?

2: If it's a different flavor entirely, are there any alternatives to the flavor that do not contain diacetyl, acetoin, or acetyl propionyl?

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"
  1. Good question, not sure about that.
  2. If you like toxic flavors that need months to steep, there's a DX Brown Sugar. There's no logical reason to use it, but...
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by coop34over 7 years ago

1: They are the same, was just a name change.

2: No diacetyl, and the other 2 are in amounts of <.2% And it is generally mixed at 1% or less, so pretty dang low in the final mix.

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by RamboUnchainedover 7 years ago"I Bet I Could Clone That"

Any of you guys using pumps to dispense your VG? If so, which ones? Because squeezing VG from a 500mL HDPE bottle is killing my hand...

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by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Generally, I pour until I'm within a reasonable range of what VG I need, then squeeze in the rest.

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by RamboUnchainedover 7 years ago"I Bet I Could Clone That"

My hand isn't steady enough for pouring lol. I've tried and I can never get a constant stream that doesn't clog up the hole and then overflow.

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by ivapeitguyover 7 years ago

What kind of bottles?

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by Willyc1234over 7 years ago

Hey, This may have been asked a bunch of times... Just wondering if anyone knows the legalities of selling liquid WITHOUT nicotine (perhaps a one-shot / doubles) to friends, shops and online in Australia? Does anyone have any experience with this or can send me some links to laws? I assume a steralised lab and food certificates would be needed as quality control / insurance to be able to sell to shops?

I have access to a lab for a fairly good price so I don't know whether to pursue this and whether it's a necessity when selling to the public? Similarly I'm not sure whether I would need to get the recipes registered/checked with authorities given that the liquid is intended for consumption? Also are there regulations on what is needed to be included on the labels?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You’ll need to check with your local laws

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by Willyc1234over 7 years ago

It seems a bit of a grey area as I can't find anything online about regulations, except that you cannot possess or sell liquid in Australia which contain nicotine. Any help would be great!

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You’ll need to do your own research if you are planning on doing this. Sell to friends only if you don’t want to call your state’s legal body and find out. This isn’t something we can help you out with in this sub.

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by patg55over 7 years ago
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