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Hey guys so marijuana pens are moving away from PG/VG to a future of solventless oil cartridges/pens. Are there any future possibilities of solventless delivery for nicotine?
submitted over 7 years ago by _Dilligent

Would love to hit a pen and know it was only nicotine, but I know its probably so potent that it needs to be dilluted in something.

Edit:

Ok so looks like it needs to be diluted 4 sure.

Is there anything new besides pg/vg?

I remember getting huccips, and annoying sinus stuff.

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by much_longer_usernameover 7 years ago

It's exactly that. I could eat pure THC and the worst thing that's likely to happen is a nap. Pure nicotine will flat out kill you.

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by veiledvenusover 7 years agoWTF is a "Terpene?"

Here in Washington State we've actually started encountering THC OD issues with 24-hour MJ consumers, it causes twitching and severe violent vomiting/heaving for DAYS with some folks who dab or vape high THC or use high dose edibles whenever awake for a few weeks straight. Never would have thought it was possible to OD, I guess it took inexpensive legal access to find that out. Not super common, but it's possible.

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by peanutbudderover 7 years ago

Do you have any information on that? I can't find any articles on "THC overdose" in Washington State. It would have made national news and be effecting the legal movement. Just getting sick from too much of a mind-altering substance isn't an overdose.

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by _Dilligentover 7 years ago

Everyones always known that too big of an edible on too low of a tollerance can incapacitate you and be hell on earth. I think its called greensick now, but yeah definitely allot easier to reach now with people smoking and eating concentrate.

Youd be amazed at the tollerances people get these days though. Theres 110lb yoga moms going around saying that 1000mg of rso per day is the key to an energetic and peacful lifestyle. because just like with many perscriptions you can safely increase your mg every week until you reach the reccomended or desired dose.

heres a picture of the safe path to 1000mg https://i0.wp.com/marijuanamailorders.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/rso-dosage-calendar-chart1.png

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by w1crazymofoover 7 years ago

We’ve always called it greening out

2 points
 
by [deleted]over 7 years ago

> ...it causes twitching.... ...whenever awake for a few weeks straight...

something tells me that not the dabs causing the twitching.

legalize ranch

1 points
 
by hookedonponicsover 7 years ago

I believe what /u/veiledvenus is refering to what is known as "Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome" they have been recently finding out more about it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3576702/

0 points
 
by TheMonkeyismyfriendover 7 years ago

Sounds like a load of bull shit to me, THC actually treats those symptoms and also there's no such thing as an "OD" with weed. Anyone who goes to the hospital because they got too high is a piece of shit and making all the functional members of society who smoke weed look bad.

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by _Dilligentover 7 years ago

I figured, but had a little hope haha. Is there anything new besides pg/vg? I use to get sinus stuff and hiccups if I overindulged.

2 points
 
by Hey_Coccoover 7 years ago

Thats what happens when you consume too much nicotine at once. I vape 6mg and when I try my buddy's 12mg I almost always get hiccups and we use the same juice.

2 points
 
by _Dilligentover 7 years ago

thats a bummer cuz I really like the realistic cig headrush of 50mg salt liquid.

10 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

No. It’s pure nicotine. It must always be diluted.

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by _Dilligentover 7 years ago

that makes sense, any new dilluters? pg/vg gave me hiccups and sinus issues if I overindulged.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

For nicotine? No. I don’t think that’s what’s causing your hiccups. If you are “overindulging” that doesn’t have anything to do with the carrier.

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by _Dilligentover 7 years ago

lol well lots of people report those symptoms, people have even offered solutions in this very post.

my overindulgeing isnt anything crazy either, probably equivelant of 4 cigs a day if Im on an off the rails bender.

2 points
 
by Tixylixover 7 years ago

Look this is anecdotal but I'll give it to you anyway... is it the nicotine that is giving you the hiccups? I've never really gotten them from vaping but I remember getting hiccups and a tight throat/chest from nicotine gum. After a few tries with nicotine gum I'd be careful not to actually chew it like normal gum, but to gently massage it and let it sit in the mouth, just because that sensation was uncomfortable. What sort of concentration of nic were you vaping?

3 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

If PG is the problem, PDO or PEG400 is possibly the answer. If VG is the problem, you're kinda SOL.

3 points
 
by ScoopDatover 7 years ago

Hiccups? That usually happened to me when I would vape hard and long. Like take beast hits. If you can pace yourself and not have you diaphragm work like crazy and incite a reaction due to internal pressure within your digestive system, you should be fine.

Sinus issues? Maybe not exhaling with the nose as well might help that, or changing flavors.. Need more detail to make a better guess.

2 points
 
by veiledvenusover 7 years agoWTF is a "Terpene?"

It's probably the nicotine, would be my guess. Nicotine sets off my GERD in the worst way, especially when I vape higher nic juices, and that causes hiccups for me if I don't treat it. I personally use generic pepcid or tagamet or zantac, tums works for me but it comes back in less than an hour.

1 points
 
by IAreDrugsover 7 years ago

Have you tried max VG? Out of the two, it's probably the PG that doesn't sit well with your body

1 points
 
by drhappycatover 7 years ago

I went to a pot shop when I was visiting Colorado and they looked at me funny when I asked for some juice. No no you have to buy these cartridges and this 2010-era ego battery. Do you really have to use special hardware or is this just a scheme to sell extras?

2 points
 
by Jason_Worthingover 7 years ago

About a year ago, I bought a couple of thc cartridges and tried them on my sub-ohm mod. I turned it down literally as low as it would go, in this case, 1 watt. Both cartridges hit ok for about 2-3 seconds, then simply stopped and wouldn't respond to any current after that. I'm 99% sure my mod burned out the filament in the cartridges.

I think those premade cartridges are designed specifically for very small current and very small airflow. If you use any other kind of mods, I expect you will have the same result I did. If I was to try it again, I'd definitely buy whatever small pen style mod the cartridge was designed for.

2 points
 
by drhappycatover 7 years ago

I was just looking for juice to use in my own atomizer.

3 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Buy Dab Mix or try to reverse engineer it. I'll be experimenting some with PEG 400 and crystals for a friend sometime in the near future. If it works, I'll share details.

2 points
 
by _Dilligentover 7 years ago

bro I fill my own carts. They have ceramic atomizors made for thick solventless oil, each hit is the strength of a bong rip and its smooth and light. Were lightyears ahead of u in the weed world lol.

I will admit though that many dispensaries still try to sell shitty cotton atomizer 510 carts mixed with pg/vg or foodgrade terps. those are disgusting.

1 points
 
by clashyclashover 7 years ago

I get hiccups from vaping only if I'm working and trying to choke it down super quick. Maybe drawing more slowly might help you too?

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by senatorpjtover 7 years ago

I suppose you could just use water, but then you wouldn't see the cloud. For some reason if I don't see a cloud it doesn't provide any satisfaction.

2 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Water tends to boil. So you'd get the popping. Also, water and hot metal don't get along... you'd ruin coils. Water (specifically saline) has been used in ejuice for years, but we're talking trace amounts, and it usually bonds to the VG.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 7 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Water would not work

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by Marikc1over 7 years agoMixologist

You can't do that. It just won't work. If I recall correctly the most you can get away with is somewhere around <5% saline or distilled water.

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