does ws-23 fade over time?

submitted over 7 years ago by kussaa

i've been loving ws-23 the last while. i used to be hooked on menthol crystals but it felt like it was degrading the nicotine (or at least changing the psychoactivity) so the discovery of ws-23 has been a game changer.

it's amazing how it can take a cloying, bogged down juice and turn it into a magically refreshing vape.

however, it may just be in my head, but does the strength of ws-23 get reduced over time? i don't think it's a case of getting accustomed to the cooling, as i often rotate out with non ws-23 juices but it seems to me like there is less cooling than before.

i've seen one other post mentioning it... has anyone else had this experience?

would it be more efficient then to add the ws-23 to smaller batches, of say 10ml at a time rather than to 30ml bottles where by the time half of it is done, half of the cooling effect has dissipated?

Comments

2 points

by bobnidover 7 years ago

I find it fades over time, I generally add it in small batches

2 points

by kussaaover 7 years ago

i'll do that in the future... i really can't enjoy anything vanilla or creamy, so it will be easy to make smaller batches of short steep fruit recipes

2 points

by bobnidover 7 years ago

For sure and if you find it fading it doesn’t need a steep so just add a bit more :)

2 points

by MasterBeernutsover 7 years ago

Do you guys prefer ws23 to Koolada - and if so, can you tell me why?

4 points

by kussaaover 7 years ago

koolada or ws-3 is a menthol derivative, so even though it's supposed to be tasteless it affects juice flavors more than ws-23. it is about double the cooling power of ws-23 however.

ws-23 is smoother in the sense that it feels more like a cooling taste, whereas koolada is more of a cooling inhale.

1 points

by BuryMeInSmokeover 7 years ago

Have you used WS23 with any orange flavoured juices?

I tried a orange soda ejuice with koolada and it was getting that same sort of flavour you get when you drink orange juice after brushing your teeth.

Just wondering if you can avoid that with WS23.

3 points

by -ImfatIRLover 7 years ago

Yes that's Koolada. It mutes and distorts flavors. WS-23 doesn't do that at all, that's one of its biggest advantages. Since switching to WS-23 I'll never go back to Koolada

2 points

by kussaaover 7 years ago

i mixed up the Fantasia remix by Dazcole

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/32883#fantastic_a_fantasia_remix_by_dazcole

and it's an outstanding bright and lightly sweet orange taste

1 points

by GalileoMateoover 7 years ago

Also curious about this. Koolada is in my adv which ive been using for over a year now, and if ws23 is better I'd definitely want to try it

1 points

by LightSpadesover 7 years ago

It has a different cooling effect. It's more in throat. Also it doesn't change taste as Koolada. Some people get the best effect combining these two

1 points

by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

They're great together. You don't need to use as much of either for the same level of cooling, and they don't affect flavor like using just one would at levels required for a really icy vape.

1 points

by nakedzover 7 years ago

It fades a little on me, still obviously present after a 3 months. It also seems to seriously darken any mix I add it to (1% to 1.5%).

1 points

by bobnidover 7 years ago

Not sure where you get it from but it doesn’t darken any of my mixes

1 points

by nakedzover 7 years ago

Weird - I got mine from EcigExpress.

1 points

by Kewkewmoreover 7 years agojust add sucralose

Yes it fades, but not completely.

1 points

by kussaaover 7 years ago

given enough time, do you think it would fade completely?

3 points

by Kewkewmoreover 7 years agojust add sucralose

Given enough time every flavoring would fade completely.

1 points

by MasterBeernutsover 7 years ago

But the monkey would still be whacking away on his typewriter. A rose by any other name... what about tulip? Rose is fine - moving on.

1 points

by robbiepellagreenover 7 years ago

I love it...for about two hits. For some reason it causes almost instant olfactory fatigue for me.

1 points

by Typical_Pakehaover 7 years ago

Where do you buy ws-23 and do some places label it as something different? Nicriver only has ws-3

2 points

by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

WS-23 is only ever sold (in the western world) as WS-23. Maybe in the south pacific it's labeled differently (it's used heavily in that area). WS-3 is koolada. I've got it from Chef's. It's also now available at thebrokevaper.ca

1 points

by Typical_Pakehaover 7 years ago

Awesome I'll have to give it a try :)

1 points

by Empty_0neover 7 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I got mine from here: https://www.bullcityflavors.com/ws-23/

1 points

by DarkJester89over 7 years agoThe Clone-y Professor

psychoactivity, when you worry that your juice has a mind of its own. lmao