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I don't care-a-mel if you say car-mel or car-mool, it's still the flavor of the Week: CARAMEL!
submitted over 7 years ago by ID10-TWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

As always, the purpose of this thread is to gather the community to explore a flavor and its many uses. And it's also to have FUN!

Post recipes containing this week's Flavor of the Week, as the star or in a supporting role, with or without development notes. Talk about other people's recipes that use it. Compare and contrast different manufacturers' versions of the FOTW. Ask for help using that flavor in general or to achieve something specific, offer advice, brainstorm ideas, consider substitutions, suggest pairings... really anything at all as long as it's on topic.

#This week's flavor is: CARAMEL

How did that get to be the FOTW?

It was requested!

If you're not interested in this FOTW, please take this opportunity and comment to request one that interests you (or send me a PM to do that).

Past FOTW posts can be found here

The NOTED podcasts, which are bascially video FOTWs, are listed on this sheet. maintained by /u/apexified

Next week's flavor will be: Lime

The week after that will be: Cereal

The week after that will be: Orange

The week after that will be: Cheesecake

The week after that will be: Coffee

The week after that will be: Graham Cracker/Pie Crust

The week after that will be: Coconut

The week after that will be: Cookie Dough & Cake Batter

The week after that will be: Custard

The week after that will be: Peach

The week after that will be: Red Raspberry

The week after that will be: Sweeteners

The week after that will be: Cinnamon Pastries

The week after that will be: Vanilla

The week after that will be: Cantaloupe

The week after that will be: Honeydew

The week after that will be: Watermelon

The week after that will be: Pecan

The week after that will be: Hard Liquor

The week after that will be: Pear

The week after that will be: Cranberry

The week after that will be: Mango

The week after that will be: Ginger

The week after that will be: Cream

The week after that will be: Honey

The week after that will be: Peanut Butter

The week after that will be: Ube/Taro/Yam

The week after that will be: Cookies & Biscuits

The week after that will be: Lemonade

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6 points
 
by Bassmuttover 7 years ago

I would give my left foot (no not really ) for a spot on werthers. Most caramels taste burnt to me. Butterscotch ripple is good kind of caramly.

4 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I'd work on a Werthers recipe but if it's not going to add to my left foot collection, why bother?

Which caramels tasted burnt to you?

2 points
 
by Bassmuttover 7 years ago

The caramel candys tfa and Fw. Fa caramel is decent though. May be the tobacco but ry4 double has kind of a burnt flavor too. The burnt flavor is not strong but its enough to throw them off to me. Maybe I could find you a left foot somewhere.

3 points
 
by BuryMeInSmokeover 7 years ago

Same for me, most tastes like burnt sugar or have that whispy spun sugar cotton candy sort of thing. I'm also craving a Werther's type butterscotch.

Tried a lot too, TFA's, FW's, FA's and FLV's.

3 points
 
by kirktover 7 years agoBring on the Diacetyl, baby

Try FW.

2 points
 
by Phatpharm269over 7 years ago

Salted Carmel is quite good from FW. Going to do a blend soon with TFA Apple. (likely green would pair better)

Did notice it cakes the coils heavy tho!

5 points
 
by PerennialPhilosopherover 7 years ago

One of my all time favorite two Flavor combos involves caramel!

TFA dk tobacco 2%

TFA dulce de Leche 2%

Not so much tobacco as it is dessert. It kind of makes me think of waffles with syrup. Since it involves caramel I thought I'd share.

TFA dk tobacco is the perfect companion Flavor to caramel imho.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Do you get a cocoa flavor out of TFA Dulce De Leche? I do and while it's not really unpleasant, it seems like an off-note for a dulce de leche concentrate.

I've been into FW Salted Caramel lately. Even though it's not actually salted at all, it's a very nice soft caramel, unlike so many other so-called caramels that are really just brown sugar flavored.

But I get where you're coming from with the tobacco; my favorite caramel to date is actually DIYFS Holy Grail RY4. You can't separate it from the tobacco-esque flavor that makes it an RY4 - at least I can't, and I've tried - but it's such a satisfying caramel w/tobacco-ish flavor.

3 points
 
by coop34over 7 years ago

That Salted is hard to beat ain't it? Watch for a great pairing in next months thread!

6 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Is it Kentucky Bourbon again?

2 points
 
by PerennialPhilosopherover 7 years ago

I've actually never tried dulce de Leche solo oddly enough, but I've never detected any cocoa in this mix or any other I've used it in. I'm going to have to pick up that holy Grail sometime soon!

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I'll just leave this link to Cardinal by /u/feartx right here for you.

2 points
 
by BuryMeInSmokeover 7 years ago

> Do you get a cocoa flavor out of TFA Dulce De Leche? I do and while it's not really unpleasant, it seems like an off-note for a dulce de leche concentrate.

I don't get an actual cocoa flavour as such but it is chocolate-y - reminds me a lot of TFA Double Choc Clear.

2 points
 
by juthincover 7 years ago

Really? I guess I need to add that to the "to order" list.

1 points
 
by Phatpharm269over 7 years ago

I dissolved some fleur de sel into the FW salted carmel and it made it pop more.

3 points
 
by BuryMeInSmokeover 7 years ago

Never thought of using DK Tobac like this, I'm gonna try it, thanks!

5 points
 
by Orwelian84over 7 years agoPâtissier

Ah good ole Caramel, I've been waiting for this to be the FWOW so I could share a recipie I've been tweaking for a long while now.

Casa Caramela

Vendor | Flavor | % ---|---|---- TFA | Caramel Original | 3% FA | Torrone | .5% FLV | Coconut | .25% FA | Fresh Cream | 4% CAP | Vanilla Whipped Cream | 2.5% TFA | Graham Cracker Clear | 3% CAP | Golden Pineapple | .5%

This is a creamy and sweat Caramel vape. The Coconut from FLV is the expensive variant, I forget what its exact name is , however there are no substitutes for it and while the mix is vapeable without it, it is dramatically different. Ditto for the Golden Pineapple, it really just isn't the same mix without it. At .5% you don't get much of a Pineapple note but the acid cuts through some the cream and IMO pulls the caramel notes out while giving adding a little extra sweetness. I have subbed VBIC for Vanilla Whipped Cream but the VBIC adds some off-notes to the mix that I didn't really like. YMMV if you sub one for the other. As with the coconut the Torrone is not sub-able and is necessary for everything to come together right. The mix is vapeable without it, but is missing mid notes imo without it.

I've made this mix for the last 2 winters for my Wife and I and as a Christmas gift for the my sister. We all think it's a fantastic vape and I hope you all do too.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

That looks outstanding! Does it have a name? Also is that supposed to be CAP Sweet Cream? (It says CAP Fresh Cream)

2 points
 
by Orwelian84over 7 years agoPâtissier

Total durka dur moment...post updated.

2 points
 
by Orwelian84over 7 years agoPâtissier

Double mistake, in my recipie software I misclassified the vendor. Actual vendor is Flavour Art. Name is Fresh Cream. Sorry for those mistakes.

post updated

2 points
 
by juthincover 7 years ago

So, what's the Graham cracker doing in there?

2 points
 
by Orwelian84over 7 years agoPâtissier

Mostly it's there to add a darker sweetness, initially I had been using TFA Brown Sugar but switched over to Graham because Brown Sugar gunks my coils. Ended up really liking the new overall profile.

1 points
 
by juthincover 7 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Hmm. Interesting. I would've thought molasses or maybe English toffee would do that... so graham cracker doesn’t have any bakery note to it? That's useful info.

4 points
 
by DARKFiB3Rover 7 years ago

Ca-ra-mel.

tf is wrong with people? 🤣

2 points
 
by kirktover 7 years agoBring on the Diacetyl, baby

Crammel

2 points
 
by Milenk0over 7 years ago

carrml

3 points
 
by effRPaulover 7 years ago

It took me a long time to figure out that this is the flavor in Halo tobaccos that I hate - I can't even stand the smell of it - and it does not taste like caramel to me.

3 points
 
by Bitchy_cat_mamaover 7 years ago

Caramel icecream I’ve been working on, still not creamy enough but it’s pretty good!

FW Butterscotch ripple 2%

FW Salted caramel 3.5%

TFA Vanilla bean icecream 5%

5 points
 
by IceEichelover 7 years ago

Flv cream would be a solid addition here I'd imagine

3 points
 
by Bitchy_cat_mamaover 7 years ago

Thanks! I’ll have to pick some up on my next order!

2 points
 
by Lulzorrover 7 years ago

maybe you'll get some ideas

2 points
 
by Bitchy_cat_mamaover 7 years ago

Thanks!

2 points
 
by lNTERLINKEDover 7 years agoI did not ask for this flair.

CAP custard v1 could also really help the creamy full mouthfeel I (assume) you want. If you can stand the 1-2 month steep :)

2 points
 
by Bitchy_cat_mamaover 7 years ago

Thanks! I have this so I’ll whip up a batch tonight!

3 points
 
by St1llFrankover 7 years ago

The first one I've tried is FlavourArt. Its a pretty light flavor considering most FA is pretty potent. I like it, but have a hard time tasting it.

The other one I got is Purilum Creamy Caramel. I like this one better. Its more in your face and pretty delicious. Its fairly potent and doesn't take much (.5-2%) to add a nice caramely flavor to the mix. My opinion on the whole subject is limited to these two.

2 points
 
by UncleManifestorover 7 years agoMixologist

FA Caramel needs FA Butterscotch added to it to taste more like a genuine caramel flavour.

3 points
 
by St1llFrankover 7 years ago

Thanks for the tip. I'll get some next time.

2 points
 
by dutchahover 7 years ago

I remember getting a small bottle of cheap caramel juice waaaaay back when I started. I almost thought I burned my coil out, it was that gross.

I blame that for my hesitation to try caramel juices. Well, that and the fact that a lot of caramel flavor reviews seem to mention cream. And I don't like creams.

2 points
 
by Lulzorrover 7 years ago

Carl-uh-male

I've used WF Carmel Butter a few times but haven't tested it solo yet. I used it in a caramel ice cream recipe and that turned out really nice. it smells like caramel pudding. on the back of the hand it tastes like I shouldn't have done that.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Lol “tastes like I shouldn’t have done that”

2 points
 
by Wheelydrazover 7 years ago

A recipe i've been trying to get right for a while but I now feel I have got as close as I can.

EMS ROLLO http://tjek.nu/r/hF4J

Butterscotch (FA) 0.75%

Caramel (FA) 0.50%

Caramel (Original) (TPA) 2%

Chocolate (FA) 1.00%

Cocoa (FA) 0.50 %

Cream Fresh (FA) 0.50%

Dairy Milk (TPA) 1.50%

Double Chocolate (Clear) (TPA) 2%

Vanillin 10% (TPA) 1.00%

30 Day Steep

Tpa double chocolate clear as the outershell combined with the cocoa and FA chocolate to add the missing chocolate notes from the tfa. Dairy milk and a touch of fresh cream to boost the dairy note to get a milk chocolate. Caramel (original) and FA caramel combined to give a sweet candy caramel and a touch of butterscotch for that silky smooth taste. Vanillin used for a touch of sweetness. EDIT:Formatting

2 points
 
by sampleitover 7 years ago

MF caramel is one of my go too’s these days, damn expensive tho so I can imagine not many ppl trying it unfortunately. Bit of a steeper too.

3 points
 
by kindgroundover 7 years ago

Mine too. It's worth the price.

2 points
 
by OdieDoodahabout 7 years ago

|Flavor Facts - Caramel| |-------| |FOTW - Caramel 1| |Noted ep36 - Caramel| |Caramel Recipes on ATF| |Caramel Recipes on ELR|

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| Flavor | Comapny | Review | ATF | ELR | |---|---|---|---|---| |Caramel|Capella|by ConcreteRiver| on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel V2|Capella| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|Flavor West| - - - | - - - | on ELR| |Caramel Candy|Flavor West| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel Cinnamon Roll|Flavor West|by mlNikon| on ATF| on ELR| |Salted Caramel|Flavor West|by mlNikon| on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|Flavorah|by ConcreteRiver| on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|Flavormonks| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|FlavourArt|by ConcreteRiver| on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|Hangsen| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel Mocha|Hangsen| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel Toffee|Hangsen| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|Inawera| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|LorAnn| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Creamy Caramel|LorAnn| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|Medicine Flower| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Creamy Caramel|Purilum| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|Real Flavors SC|by ConcreteRiver| on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel Apple|Real Flavors SC|by ConcreteRiver| on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel|The Flavor Apprentice| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel Candy|The Flavor Apprentice| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel Cappuccino|The Flavor Apprentice|by thedirtyprojector| on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel Original|The Flavor Apprentice| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel V2|The Flavor Apprentice| - - - | - - - | on ELR| |Dulce de Leche Caramel|The Flavor Apprentice| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |DX Caramel Original|The Flavor Apprentice| - - - | on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel Butter|Wonder Flavours|by mlNikon| on ATF| on ELR| |Caramel Rice Crispy Treats|Wonder Flavours|by mlNikon| on ATF| on ELR|

1 points
 
by Enyawreklawover 7 years agoCreator - Best Recipe of 2015: Rhodonite

car-muhl

9 points
 
by Enyawreklawover 7 years agoCreator - Best Recipe of 2015: Rhodonite

FA Car-muhl: This stuff is pretty good. I llke it when I want the caramel flavor to be present, but not quite "velvety". It kinda reminds of of those Werthers Butterscotches. That said, it also plays well with FA Butterscotch. 0.5% - 2%

TFA Car-muhl Candy: A lot like FA Caramel, but just a different caramel top note. Not much body, but its good for caramel presence. This recipe it really sticks out in mainly because of its accompanying flavors. 1 - 5%

TFA Car-muhl Original: This is where we start to get more into the "soft crack" state. It's got a bit more body and richness, though still needs help to give you that warm caramel syrup feel. I like this stuff more in bakeries and as a bridge for certain profiles. Also in RY4's and Custards to add some more nuttiness to the overall profile. 1 - 4%

FW Salted Car-muhl: This stuff's pretty interesting. While I don't get much saltiness from it in vapor, it does have a nice caramel note to it. Especially when you pair it up with the other caramels mentioned. Gotta pump it high to really get its full experience, but that's ok because you can't really use this stuff in any complex situations. Keep it simple. 2 - 6%

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Thanks for the notes!

1 points
 
by HocusKrokusover 7 years agoHis Bearded Holiness

There's our Captain MerinGAY

5 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I think it should actually be "CAR-uh-muhl"

When in doubt, add a syllable.

For example, Molasses. Moll-ASS-ez. No.

Muuuhlaaahhhyyyyuhhsez. Yes.

1 points
 
by Milenk0over 7 years ago

ya gotta say it like you have a mouthful of molasses. kind of mumbling with an "asses" on the end.

0 points
 
by TwistedOreover 7 years ago

I always double take when I hear someone in the States say caramel. Us Brits say Caramel like Ka-Ra-Mell. Tickles my funny bone.

2 points
 
by MasterBeernutsover 7 years ago

Nobody mention FA Meringue and we're all good.. backs silently away

1 points
 
by juthincover 7 years ago

Kar-mull

And does English Toffee qualify as on topic?

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 7 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Sure, why not

2 points
 
by juthincover 7 years ago

Well, in that case: I've found LA English Toffee just gives mixes a candy vibe. It doesn't seem to blend into a beverage well, yet, but I keep expecting the right mix might...

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