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Flavours you sense more on the tongue than the nose? I have no sense of smell
submitted almost 8 years ago by paperskulk

I have congenital anosmia, born without a sense of smell. I can still taste but obviously have no frame of reference for how much less I can taste. I usually explain it as "all the jelly beans taste the same" (except bloody cinnamon).

I'm looking for flavour profiles or even specific flavourings that are perceived more on the tongue than in the nose. Sharp citrus like key lime and really obvious fruits like raspberry have shown up well, but my favourites are bakeries and desserts which seem very hit and miss on whether I can taste anything at all. I don't taste chocolate or much of anything in CAP chocolate glazed donut for example, or the recipe for Bronuts in general, but Kilo White Series cinnamon roll is very buttery, bready, and cinnamon-y.

A mix I made with INW Cactus, TFA Strawberry ripe, TFA Raspberry sweet, and TFA marshmallow tasted like "fruit" I suppose, whereas my boyfriend and neighbour could pick out 2-3 of the flavours blind and told me I mixed it too strong. Haha.

I'll probably end up using hella flavouring % and sweeteners but specific pointers would be awesome, most flavour reviews do not differentiate between tongue and nose flavour.

Thanks.

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by AstronauttiXalmost 8 years ago

How about menthol etc flavours that are more in the "feeling" category that actual taste? Of course not the same, but menthol liquids are really nice, even when having a bad case of vapers togue or having nose full of stuff due to being sick.

Also menthol liquids are dirt cheap and easy to DIY. Especially when making them out of menthol crystals.

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by paperskulkalmost 8 years ago

I haven’t revisited menthol flavours since I first quit smoking and wanted menthol tobacco E-liquid - probably worth another look! Thanks.

Menthol is definitely a flavor I perceive strongly, when I was younger I thought it was the one thing I could smell because even I could “feel” it in my nose.

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by AstronauttiXalmost 8 years ago

Menthol has to be one of the nicest solo flavours. If I should pick one flavour I would "have" to vape for the rest of my life, it would be menthol hands down. One just doesn't get tired of it. Maybe not the absolute nicest flavour, but it just always works and no vapers tongue issues.

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by Oldguynothumbsalmost 8 years agoWME

Don't know where or who said this to me but try vaping so the tip of your tongue gets hit with the vapor first.

Don't know if it will work but I do it sometimes to pick up different notes and it's helpful.

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by ReMaxxUTalmost 8 years agoTobacconist

It does increase the taste sensations, mostly sweetness for me.

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by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 8 years agoThanks for reading this flair

What is your set-up? Tank, single coil, dual coil, etc? High resistance/lower wattage tends to not carry as much flavor.

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by paperskulkalmost 8 years ago

My mainstays are a crown 3 at 85 watts, and a dead rabbit from 70 to 100 watts depending on the mod I’m using. Tank and dual coil respectively, always below 0.5 ohms. I can tell I’m getting good flavour from my atomizers, some flavours specifically just seem to be more smell-reliant than others.

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by ReMaxxUTalmost 8 years agoTobacconist

Try using a tongue scraper a couple times each day, followed by a good rinse. I do this when things begin tasting a bit flat and it helps.

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by paperskulkalmost 8 years ago

I do this as part of my tooth brushing already - things don’t begin to taste flat so much as some flavours always taste flat without a sense of smell.

I do agree though and recommend tongue scrapers in general! Especially when i smoked omg my tongue was gross

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by imrchyasiwalmost 8 years ago

Menthol!

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by Abiionalmost 8 years ago

Flv Heat :P Probably more of a tongue/nose/lung sensory experience rather I'd say.

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by Rokujinalmost 8 years ago

If you liked Kilo's cinnamon roll you should check out Dinner Lady's lemon tart because it has that pleasant sharp note of the lemon curd and a good amount of sweetness. It's a good premium juice to "study" and get recipe ideas from. Another good one is Jam Monster strawberry. It's not a subtle flavor, which may work in your favor. I have no idea what that butter/toast flavoring is but it's delicious and potent. If the goal is to compensate in flavor for not being able to smell something, I would avoid anything subtle.

Maybe a good direction for recipes in general would be a sweet bakery/desert base with a sharp fruit note like lemon or a very sweet strawberry and then one more note to give it that depth the way the butter & toast works in Jam monster. Bold, strong flavors that hold their own without forcing you to hunt for flavor. The sweeter the better.

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by 413j0almost 8 years ago

since you don't have a sense of smell i guess all you can taste are the 5 basic flavors and their relative amounts (sweet, sour, salty, bitter, and umami). and the "flavours" that don't depend on taste like menthol or cinnamon, so i would advise for you to find some flavors that exemplify each one of this categories and mix them to your personal taste.

and since you wouldn't experience olfactory fatigue, in your particular case going overboard with some flavorings maybe will be best for you, because you basically have permanently what we call vaper's tongue(it's mostly olfactory fatigue), and the reason we don't use a lot of flavoring is that it causes pretty much an instant case of olfactory fatigue that mutes all the olfactory portion of flavor

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by paperskulkalmost 8 years ago

Your assessment sounds about right. I can taste specific flavours when physically eating (beyond sweet salty sour etc) but I’m sure I’m missing a lot of the nuances. Especially so when vaping since I’m not chewing it or rolling it around my tongue. Good advice thank you

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 8 years ago

Definitely don’t increase the flavor percentage in the hopes you’ll taste something. That’s the opposite of what happens

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by Nebuchadnezzar_zalmost 8 years ago

I wonder if this "rule" still applies to someone who can't smell since their smell receptors can't get fatigued..?

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by paperskulkalmost 8 years ago

Interesting. Do you know why that is? Trying to understand flavor perception better in general and I’ve heard this a few times

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by Civinskoalmost 8 years ago

I don't think it'll work like that in your case, honestly.

That's called olfatory fatigue (or something like that) and it's basically caused by what we smell.

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by [deleted]almost 8 years ago

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by mlNikonalmost 8 years ago

If you add supersweet to your mixes, it will help all flavors land on the tongue more.

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by Laserbabzalmost 8 years ago

Hmm, i would try out with some more simple fruit juices with a little methol in them, maybe something like this https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/37882#jango_jackfruit_mango_by_hashslingingslashur with 0.5-1% methol added (10% solution)

Maybe add a little CAP Super Sweet to see if that makes it "pop" more for your senses.

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