#What do you call it when a banana eats a banana? Cannibananalism!
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This week's flavor is: BANANAS
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3% TPA Banana cream mixed with 1.5% OoO Cookie Dough. If you want a nice creamy candied (not runts) banana, look no further. The cookie dough has a mild ripe mushy banana-ish vibe that melds really well. Trust me.
Banana Pudding
3% Banana Cream TPA
1.5% Cookie Dough OoO
4% Vanilla Pudding FLV
1% Cream (milky undertone) OoO
You make that sound so good, I'll have to to pick up some Cookie Dough when I run out of OoO Pickle.
I have a question and this thread is still going, but I mix my own juice but I make my recipes of all the flavors equal out to 15% of the entire bottle. With your recipe it's below 15, would adding some pg to make the mix a 85/15 would the extra of increase the flavor?
I've never seen the flavour affected that much by adding more pg. However, at least to my pallette, the juice does seem to steep a bit quicker when the juice is thinner. That's pure conjecture on my part though.
I've found that for myself if I mix tpa banana cream with some FA banana I don't get that banana runts taste. This one's really good after a couple days. I haven't been able to leave it long enough to steep more than a week.
Nanners the pi remix
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Banana cream (TPA) 3.2%
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Banana (FA) 2.4%
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Biscuit (INW) 1%
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cheesecake (Graham crust) (TPA) 1.5%
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French vanilla (Cap) .75%
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Sugar cookie (Cap) 1%
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Vanilla bean ice cream (Cap) 1%
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Whipped cream ( TPA) 1.5%
It's a good banana cream pie after a week, but longer steep times would probably help the whipped cream fill out.
No experience yet, but I did just order some TFA Banana Cream and Banana Nut Bread. Didn’t really do any research before throwing them in the cart, so are those decent?
Mmmm I can taste the banana nut breadbacco already.
Yes, those are solid. Especially the Banana Nut Bread.
There was a fella that hit me up on ELR that was talking about some juice that was like a cognac, buttermilk, and banana cigar type thing. Sounded interesting so I figured I’d give it a go. Even if (or when) that turns to shit, I’ve got some ideas brewing.
For what it's worth TFA Banana Cream is very sweet, candy banana and not realistic at all IMO. I'd look at FA Banana and HS Banana if you're wanting a more realistic note. They work well in combination with the more candied varieties.
For the record: the 'original' artificial banana flavors mostly mimicked a banana variety that dominated the north American market years ago, but which was mostly wiped out by disease. It was a far less complex flavor, and the 'candy banana' flavor really is quite close to that variety's actual flavor. So don't be so quick to describe that as 'unrealistic'. It's actually quite realistic, but not a real match for the currently dominant variety of bananas.
You're correct about that flavor being less complex and thus more similar to the artificial flavoring, but the reason is a myth, it's the other way around.
I personally think TFA Banana Cream tastes like banana mixed in the bowels of a rotting corpse with melted plastic. Those banana flavorings you mentioned are solid although I think MF Banana is better than both of those. It’s so damn good I just vape it by itself every now and then.
Yup, TFA Banana Cream just joined my 4oz club, largely due to Perfect Banana Cream Pie by /u/bigbadblyons.
Probably not as tobacco-y as the stuff you usually mix up but if you have TFA Banana Foster as well by any chance - project_twenty5oh1's Nanner Bear clone - the only recipe that I always have a batch mixed up.
I just got my first banana flavoring in- FLV Banana
It is quite artificial tasting, but it's like the tastiest, highest quality circus peanut you can imagine. Super ripe and has a creamy/fluffy texture. Very strong smell.
I tried it at about .75% in this Boss Reserve Clone and it's really good. The banana is ripe and creamy at the same time.
Made that clone too.. Is it just me, or is it harsh af? Tastes awesome, but the th kills me
Since I went to single coils I don't really have a harshness problem anymore. Could it be the 1% of AP?
edit: I also made a tester of the recipe with JF Biscuit instead of INW and the JF one is smoother.
You look nothing like Gwen Stefani!
I'm one of those people that can't find a banana that I like. The WF Banana Puree is decent but for that sweetener. I hate sucralose.
I hope to eventually find something that doesn't taste like runts. Hopefully some good notes will show up on this post.
You haven't seen me in a wig yet.
Which bananas have you already tried?
The usual suspects: FA Banana, TPA Banana Cream, LA Banana Cream, WF Banana Puree, MF Banana. I have Hangsens but haven't sft it yet.
What's all this scuttlebutt I keep reading about WF and Sucralose laden flavors? How do you find which one's have it as a component? I despise that shit, thank whatever diety brought us FLV Sweetness!
IDK I can just taste sucralose. I'm pretty sensitive to the taste. If it's there it's all I can taste usually. Which is why I started DIY in the first place.
I may be in the minority here but I've found the combo of CAP banana and FA banana to be an outstanding banana rich flavour
What's CAP Banana like by itself?
I find myself combing FA with TFA or LA Banana Cream.
It's ok. Don't think it would stand up in a good custard or pie vape on it's own, but combined with FA it's pretty solid. But take my opinion with a grain of salt as if you remember, I also like TFA ripe banana, and CAP peanut butter so the consensus is my tastes are "extravagant" at best
I am surprised that no one uses INW Banana. As it is the only banana flavor I have ;)
Tastes quite authentic with some peely greenish off notes. But all in all a nice authentic banana.
Mixes well with creams (I usually mix it with FA Vienna Cream, most others are too strongly vanilla for my palate).
My wife likes it in combination with CAP VBIC, FA Creme Fresh and a bit of INW Grape. Tastes like Banana Flip Icecream then.
Grape? What in the world gave you the idea to do that? I just recently got my INW Banana in and haven't tried it yet.
I like some fruit in my banana ice cream :) And always strawberry and raspberry gets old. (Yes I know Grape is floral and perfumy, but a little bit is ok).
Bananas and grapes go well together for me.
I found INW Banana to taste identical to TFA Banana with the same percentage sensitivity.
I am using about 3% of the INW banana for a main note.
My frustration with a lot of banana recipes is that they primarily rely on TPA Banana Cream (and sometimes LA Banana Cream), and that's really just a fake Runts type flavor to me. I've found FA Banana and HS Banana to be more realistic representations, although they're not as sweet, so in a lot of recipes I only sub them in for half the original amount of Banana Cream. I find FA a little more "green" flavor and HS has a little bit of peel to it.
Here's a remix of Banana Milk. I posted it to the recipes thread last month. I honestly can't completely remember how I ended up with that particular ratio of TFA:LA, since I was remixing banana milk for a long time to cut out the sweetener and get rid of the more candy flavor. But the percentages are all weird because I used Excel to scale back the original Banana Milk percentages before adding strawberry since it was already at 14.75%. I've been ADVing this for the last few weeks and I'm really happy with how it came out.
Edit: I remember a bit more about my thought process on the bananas. The original has 4% TFA Banana Cream and 3% LA Banana Cream. I wanted to make it more realistic, but I also felt like it still needed some of that creamy/sweet banana flavor, so I went to 3% FA (more fleshy but a bit green), 2% HS (riper but a little peel), 2% TFA Banana Cream. Thought that was close, but it still needed a touch of the creamier LA banana cream, so I added 0.5% LA (to bring the sweetness up a little too). Then I ended up scaling back the entire recipe so that I could bring the strawberry forward...it was originally just getting drowned out.
% | MFG | Flavor --- | --- | --- 1.43 | HS | Banana 2.14 | FA | Banana 1.43 | TPA | Banana Cream 0.36 | LA| Banana Cream 0.71 | CAP | Butter Cream 1.43 | TPA | Cheesecake (graham Crust) 1.43 | TPA | Marshmallow 2 | FA | Red Touch (strawberry) 3 | INW | Shisha Strawberry 1.5 |JF | Strawberry Sweet 1.43 | TPA | Sweet Cream
/u/mlnikon you might want to take a look at this if you haven't already. 11 flavors is a lot to mix but wow, I can't imagine that being anything but deeelicious. ... It has those strawberries you like so much
Yeah on the one hand it probably could be streamlined, but on the other hand it seems to work, so I don't feel like messing with it more. And I do think each of those bananas brings something different to the table.
I can't remember ever doing all four of them at once but I've mixed together two our three of those particular four bananas in various combinations enough times to agree with you.
If I were going to try to streamline that just in the name of streamlining, I'm guessing (without trying it yet so really just a guess), I'd starting looking in the Butter Cream/Marshmallow/Sweet Cream area before trying to pull out any of the Nanas, trying to find something that could do the job of two of those.
I don't have much experience with banana, but so far i really like a combo of LA Banana Creme 3-5% + FA Banana 1.5-3% and then i add to that, haven't tried much yet, but so far i really like it with coconut, either full on with like 1.5% FLV Sweet Coconut + 0.5% FW Creamy Coconut, sometimes i add 2% FLV Mango to that aswel.
Also tried the banana combo with 0.75% FA Coconut and 3% FA Cuban Supreme, that also turned out pretty decent. Think i might have added some Cream Fresh to this mix also.
Coconut banana cigar?!
Yeah that Cuban Supreme seemed very mild and creamy when i smelled it, so i figured why not. I'll probably try it with some FLV Butterscotch and banana next time, i like tobacco, havent ventured down that road yet sadly. I got a bunch of FA tobacco's from a contest, they just all seem very, odd.... So havent experiemented much with them yet sadly.
DX Banana Cream - I haven't tried the original, but this is the non DAAP version. Creamy smooth perfectly-just-ripe banana, that sometimes needs another banana to make a stronger profile.
Butryic Acid makes this flavour up, which means it smells bad and catches a bit on the throat. Using this alternative, I feel like some recipes need an extra week of steeping. I've been subbing it in at the same percentages as the original.
Favourite recipes with it are: bombies 'nana cream, banana n cream and monkey snack clone.
Monkey snack clone (from memory): 11% DX peanut butter, 9% DX banana cream. It has the shortest step of DX banana cream I've encountered at 4 days and a nice complex flavour in the juice. Does need something else to make it perfect.
Vaping banana seems to be the bane of my existence. I've tried, oh I've tried, but all I get is a repulsively artificial flavor that is almost but not entirely unlike banana. I don't mind banana candy at all, in fact it's very tasty, but in vape form it just doesn't work for me. Maybe my palate is off, but I just can't stand the taste.
I have tried FA Banana, CAP Banana Split, TFA Banana Cream, TFA Bananas Foster, TFA Banana Ripe, INW Banana, FW Banana Nut Bread and MB Soft Banana. Of those I would say FW Banana Nut Bread is the best, because I can enjoy the other components, and TFA Bananas Foster the worst because it's all cinnamon and a terrible version at that. FA and INW are the closest to the banana candy flavor I enjoy, but neither even closely resemble a real banana to me.
If you don't mind sucralose, WF Banana Puree is on the more realistic side.
Interesting, I can actually get that from the UK, might give it a shot. How much sucralose are we talking? Normally, 1 drop in 10 ml is too sweet for me and while I don't mind the taste, it's like the vape is just dripping with sugar at that point, lol.
Pull the trigger on some Medicine Flower Banana and end your suffering
I've been vaping 3 banana nuts by MrColdOne on and off for the last few days. It taste pretty good, but isn't quite right for me. Others reviews seem to really like it so check it out if you want to try a simple banana nut bread vape. I'm thinking about remixing with slightly less cap sugar cookie, and maybe adding a little tpa banana cream to see if I can get it closer to what I want.
Has anyone ever made a PB and banana on bread flavored juice? One of my favorite snacks as a kid was just that. I could probably tinker and come up with a good PB and banana combo, there's lots of existing recipes out there for that, but finding a good "white bread" flavor (along with something to help separate the 3), that's the mystery.
https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/57854#bread_stone_by_shyndo
That looks good! Too bad I only have the SC version of Baked Bread. Reckon 0.2% would be a reasonable starting point?
Thanks for the link! Wish my two main Canadian vendors carried that (The Broke Vaper and Flavour Fog), just looked and they don't, unfortunately. Still, since it's insanely potent, even ordering a 30ml bottle will probably last me a lifetime. Can't wait to try it out! The kid in me is all giddy :)
Edit: Those, not that. And the potent part was referring to RF Baked Bread. My brain melted. I have toasted marshmallow but the vendors don't have RF Baked Bread or Cereal 27.
Edit # 2: Holy hell I need a coffee. Flavour Fog has Cereal 27, and RF Baked Bread PG version is the ultra potent one.
I'm gonna try a PB, nanner and Honey combo, supported by RF Baked Bread.
Banana Cobbler:
-Banana Nut Bread - TPA - 5.00%
-Bananas Foster - TPA -1.00%
-Blueberry Muffin - Flv -3.00%
-Butter Pecan - FW -2.00%
-Caramel - FA -2.00%
-Pralines and Cream -FW -3.00%
Banana nut bread and Banana foster make up the main note. A rich, sweet and spiced banana.
Blueberry muffin with the banana nut bread makes the overall flavor a bit denser and the banana completely masks any blueberry this flavor actually offers. Darkens the recipe a bit.
Butter pecan, caramel and pralines and cream.
Caramel is used for its darker rich sweet notes, they blend very well with the spiced banana.
Butter pecan is another darker flavor, very rich and dense. It plays very well with the recipe and adds that richness and light nuttyness to the exhale.
Pralines and cream, hate love relationship. It has a malty kind of aspect to its cream side. This, plays with the banana part of the recipe extremely well. And the nutty sweetness it offers helps that nuttyness of the exhale.
All in all, I find this recipe to be a very true banana cobbler!
Has anyone tried Delosi Banana?
Yeah, I've tried both DEL Banana and Bananas Foster. Both are pretty good, but a little thin and top note-y, lacking some depth. It doesn't come across as candy as some other bananas so that's good. It reminds me of a less concentrated version of FA Banana.
The Bananas Foster shares the same banana flavor, but it's got some dark sweetness to it, tastes like a caramelized banana or caramel + banana. Still a little thin and top note-y and but not a bad flavor by any means -- I'd rate it slightly below TFAs just cause TFA has more body
This is a super good mix!
Anyone have any experience with Medicine Flower Banana? I have 15ml of it but I haven't tested it out yet. I have MF Banana, Strawberry, and Kiwi and was kind of interested if I could make a PG-free fruit mix that actually tastes good.
Good question, I'd like to hear about this too. IIRC it's supposed to be really good, like best banana. I need to get me some to try it out.
The $22 for the 15ml was probably a huge gamble to be honest. I absolutely love bananas and pretty much all things cooked with bananas, but things that are "banana flavored" generally gag me out.
It always has that banana candy taste that just weirds me out. I know Medicine Flower flavorings are actually made/extracted purely from what is named/pictured on the bottle, so I thought MF Banana would be my one and only real chance of vaping banana that I enjoy.
I can't generally taste strawberry which is why I took the $22 gamble on MF Strawberry. Since it's made out of strawberries I figured I'd have a decent shot with it.
Luckily for me I didn't have to spend anymore money. The Kiwi was a 3.7ml sample that I asked for but had no expectation of receiving. They delivered on that one though! After I dilute that 3.7ml to a usable concentration that's almost 30ml of free flavoring.
MF Banana is incredible. start stupid low, like most MF.
Definitely starting very low. Should I dilute MF flavorings 5:1 or 10:1? I've seen both used.
MF makes some great flavors, it's a shame that they're so expensive and a pain in the ass to buy. I've noticed that ECX seems to be eliminating their stock.
I love occasionally replacing TFA Strawberry with LA Banana Cream in the mustard milk recipe. Pretty yummy stuff.
at 6%?
Forgot to add that, I actually generally just do 5%. It’s one of my whip up fast when I don’t feel like thinking type of vapes.
Not solely Banana, but I’m gonna throw it in here anyways. LB Orange-Banana is quite tasty with some creams/ice cream. Throw in some strawberry and you have a really awesome multi-fruit Orange Julius flavor.
I still haven't gotten around to trying that that despite owning it for a few months but multifruit orange julius sounds amazing. Are the orange and banana flavors very blended together or do you get them separately in the vape?
They are pretty well mixed together. Even more so after I add some FLV Cream. First iteration I was using TFA VBIC and it actually seemed to mute the Orange-Banana. Second version with Vanilla Swirl made it shine.
Got some tfa banana cream, what % for single mix? Also what is it good to mix with? Nonnas cake? Steep time?
4%, beyond that gets way too artificial-tasting.
Strawberries, creams, sugar cookie, graham cracker.
Almost nothing is good to mix with Nonna's Cake unless you're using the Nonna's Cake real low, like 0.25%, in my opinion, but some people like it.
Steep time on the banana cream? Overnight is fine.
The number of comments here are impressive. I never realized banana was this popular, aside from TFA Banana Cream.
Fun story, shortly after I started mixing, I tried to replicate Nilla Gorilla from ITC Vapes. I used 4% TFA Banana Cream and 2% TFA Banana Ripe as the banana part. That pretty much ruined banana vapes for me, haven't tried again since. I've put /u/enyawreklaw 's Boardwalk recipe on my mixing queue numerous times, but managed to talk myself out of it every time.
LOL. From what I hear, Banana Ripe has the power to do that to people, especially 2% of it, yikes. I have not tried it. Did you have to throw that atty away?
It's sad you're missing out on so many great vapes though.
I tossed the bottles because the smell wouldn't go away no matter what I washed them with. Definitely had to change my coil, scrubbed the tank out, and vaped a fresh lime strawberry peanut butter mix to help convert the rest of the taste.
These are the recipes from Vapaor Trail NW. They relesed them 3 years ago. Goldilocks is quite good.
Bananaberry Milkshake 10% Banana Cream (TFA) 8% Strawberry ripe (TFA) 3% Sweet Cream (TFA) 1% Dairy (TFA)
Goldilocks 7% Banana Cream (TFA) 5% Bananas Foster (TFA) 5% Banana Nut Bread (TFA) 1% Banana ripe (TFA)
I made some 3 banana nuts four or five days ago, and have been vaping it ever since. I'm enjoying how the flavour is developing from quite banana forward to something smoother and creamier, with a hint of banana.
The TPA Banana Nut Bread doesn't give me much nut or bread, it tastes like a straight artificial banana flavour to me (not necessarily a bad thing).
*is the percentage I find favorable
TFA Banana Ripe = Runts (very candied, artificial) *up to 5%
TFA Banana Cream = Runts with sweet cream, *same as above
FA Banana- unripened banana. not good at all *0%.. it's gross
Alice in Vapeland's Ripe banana = close to being a decent banana vape, not overly artificial. runts note is slightly present but not overpowering. *2%
INW Banana = Runts. Fake banana. Tastes identical to TFA ripe banana to me except more concentrated *1-2%
LA Banana Cream = Runts with whipped cream. Similar to TFA's version but the cream note is different. *up to 5%
TFA Banana Nut bread = heaven. it's the ONLY banana flavoring that I've tried so far that actually tastes like a real banana. mind you its application due to the nature of the flavor will be limited. (it's a bakery flavor... so IDK how it's going to work in a smoothie, etc) But it's amazing. * up to 5%
So... what's the best pure banana flavors? Not mixed with dairy, or bakery, or other random fruits, just straight banana? And there's zero chance of buying MF flavors here, so let's ignore that as well.
A banana liqueur, tho... if it's good, let me know.
Where's here? And what have you already tried and didn't like?
> Where's here?
America's hat.
As for flavors I've tried, I actually have never picked up a banana flavor. It was never enough of a priority, and I didn't have a good idea of what to get and didn't feel like randomly buying a bunch to figure out what would work. (I've done that with Cherry and chocolate flavors. But I really really like both cherries and chocolate, so finding something really good there was worthwhile. Bananas I kinda like, but not enought to go full crazy on.)