Check dropperbottles.com and amazon.

If you want glass, specialtybottles.com is really good. Great prices, no minimum. If you want plastic or unicorn bottles go with Amazon or Bull City Flavors.

dropperbottles.com is probably the best all around

https://glassbottleoutlet.com/

has 30ml skinny unicorns for .12 each and 10ml for .15

I'm happy with Heartland bottles

Just throwing my 2cents in, Nicotine River has beautiful 30 ml plastic bottles. Thick, shiny, keeps smells from leaking out. Best 30 ml bottles I've found so far and great price too. If you can qualify for free shipping that is so wait for your order to be over $50.

I would read everything in the sidebar, espically Verified Vendors for a list of places.

I don't know why you want organic but that isn't really possible with this hobby nor is preferred. The main thing to look out for is Kosher/USP grade materials, mainly for VG/PG % Nic. Which refers to the purity of the bases. There are a few "natural" flavorings but very few options for the most part.

I know this is a couple days old but I wanted to let you know that I use bull city for flavors and LNW for nic salts. Both are very affordable and shipping is fast. Ordered from bull city Monday USPS states Friday, it came today(Wednesday).

I would suggest trying a smaller sample first so you know you like the strength and balance of the flavors, but yes it's just that simple. Shake the liquids before and after mixing though. No need to steep that really, maybe a day or two if you want.

> is it possible to reverse the steeping process?

No. It's better to figure out why the flavor was muted to begin with but you could add just a little bit of the muted flavor to bring it back. The amount would depend on what the flavor was. Starting out low is best if you're going to go this route.

It's not too late as sweetener doesn't need time to steep. Might mute the entire mix further depending on how much you add though.

INW Shisha Punch

You don't. Not everything is possible to translate to vaping. If you can't smell it, you can't vape it is a good rule of thumb. You can smell the orange in bitters, but you can't taste the bitter rindy-ness that is makes the flavor of bitters.

Most people I see who talk about it use PG nicotine as it's easier to work with.

Common household freezers don't get cold enough to freeze PG as it's point of freezing is -74.2°F.

I prefer VG nicotine. I like to poke two holes in the seal of the bottle and use a syringe to pull out what I need and transfer it directly into the bottle I'm mixing into. PG seems to get all over the place.

I currently use VG. PG irritates my throat so I was mixing either max VG or 80/20. However, now that I have been mixing a while the viscosity of VG nic is really starting to annoy me. It is a real pita to work with.

Now that I have gotten away from over-flavored and over-sweetened commercial juices, I tend to choose recipes that use less overall flavoring and I feel am missing out on more subtle flavors using higher VG. Plus it takes longer to steep. I mixed my last bunch of bottles at 75/25 and if it doesn't mess with my throat I may try and drop to 70/30. Next time I order nic I am definitely NOT going to order 100% VG. I will either go 50/50 or 70/30 depending on what ratio I land on in my mixes.

There are definitely advantages and disadvantages to each. I would suggest new mixers avoid buying a huge bottle of it until they figure out their personal preference. Just choose what you think you MIGHT like and buy the smallest amount possible lest you end up with a freezer full of nic you can't wait to finish off!

Definitely PG. When kept in the freezer, VG base nicotine gets very thick and syrupy.

50/50 Best of both worlds.

I use VG, because I used to mix Max VG (and I'm thinking of going back to it). But it gets thick when cold so it's kind of a pain.

I use premixed ejuice base because I've been doing this for a long time and I'm fucking tired of having to mix, after I already mixed. I add my flavors and squeeze a bottle of 80/20 3mg into the mix until it looks about full.

Fuck it. I'm lazy and it's not that much more expensive(considering I've never finished a bottle of 100mg before having to throw out red, shitty nic.)

OG PG FTW IKR?

But really I use PG based nic salts from LNW and use pipettes, it's much easier to deal with than VG. Maybe if I made something higher nic for a pod system I may get 50/50 so it's not all PG.

FW Martini is an excellent dry vermouth flavor. Maybe it wouldn't be too hard to change that into a sweet vermouth?

Is that Inawera? If so that is crazy high for INW.

This should have EM in it. Are you tasting any kind of sweetness or cotton candy to it? Even just in the background? Might need to go higher as I'm not seeing a recommended percentage.

All The Flavors or E-Liquid Recipes

I personally like Juice Calculator. It's kind of advanced but it's what I started with. Once you get past the learning curve it's fantastic. I use it when I am developing a recipe and when I am ready to share it I put it on All the Flavors. One of the best features is, if you take the time to enter all the details about your ingredients, it actually calculates the cost of each bottle for you. Lots and lots of extra features that make mixing easier. You can set "alarm values" so you know when to reorder and lots of other little things like that. If you want just a basic calculator go with one of the two u/EdibleMalfunction mentioned; if you want a comprehensive mixing software give Juice Calculator a try. It's free from DIYJuiceCalculator.com

If your scale won't pick up on the change, try having a bit of weight on it without taring. It's still within the margin of error of most scales though, knowing roughly the size of one drop from your particular bottle helps, but it's still just an estimate. If you feel the need to be super accurate you only really have two options - make larger batches or make a dilution of the concentrate. If you make a 10% dilution and want to add .05 ml, you'll use .5 ml of the dilution, a lot easier to measure accurately. Needless to say you can't do this for every concentrate you own, but some really do need to be diluted, such as FLV Rich Cinnamon and Clove.

Lower wattage, smaller coils. Distilled water. Holding your breath for a moment after inhaling. But now we're talking stealth vaping, if you just want less clouds, just reduce the VG and power.

What else is in the recipe?

CAP Golden Pineapple tastes like canned pineapple tidbits. CAP Juicy Orange tastes like orange juice essence or orange juice perfume with the orange juice body taken out and replaced with vicious throat hit. I don't know anything about the other two. You might want to look into TFA Orange Cream, INW Cactus, and INW Pineapple for this.

The easiest way to figure this out is to look each one of these up on Alltheflavors and that will give you what the average mixing percentage is. Never listen to the average percentage the manufacturer gives as they are almost always wrong. You can do the same thing on Eliquid recipes but I find that more often than not they are too high. You can also select which flavor concentrates you have on both sites and hit the "What Can I Make" option for recipe Ideas.

Example: HS Black Label = 3.25%

Drop the sweetener from the first recipe.

Lemon-Lime is way too high. Only use 2-4% for that flavor. It’s not going to be sour though, if that’s what you were going for with using TFA Sour.

If you already have LA Lemonade, don’t use the RF SC Strawberry Lemonade. Look up Vurve’s Pink Lemonade recipe and mix that instead.

IMO, any good honeydew flavor includes INW Wild Melon. Honeydew is definitely the prominent flavor in it.

The idea is to add a salty note to the mix. I personally think it's placebo and just gunks coils. You can't really taste salt in a aerosol form; just like sour. You would need your atomizer to spit back in order to achieve the sensation.

If you want to try it google how to make your own saline solution. I used Sea Salt and distilled water.

If you pulled the average percentage from ATF then you should be good to go. My only recommendation is to not make 500mls of anything you've never tried before. You ideally would want to stick to 10-15ml with anything you've never tried before. Even highly revered recipes as you may not like a certain flavor that many people do.

I've never really noticed that problem with CGC. What percentage you using it at?

Never had that issue before. But highest I've ever gone with it is like 2%

5% RY and 1% Bourbon Vanilla. This how I would start. See whether they get along first, then after a week's steep I would tweak if needed. IMO that vanillin will be lost anyway.

At the same time you could also mix a bottle with hazelnut, but idk that one. Maybe try 1% and adjust from there.

RY4 Double and Vanilla Swirl go really well together. You won’t be pulling any tobacco out of this mix though.

You're not going to get any tobacco out of that using RY4 Double in the back of vanilla. It'll be vanilla with a hint of dirty caramel. Or caramel tobacco with some vanilla. But never a vanilla with light tobacco.

Also, DX Hazelnut is DISGUSTING.

But without ordering more flavors, try 4% Vanilla Swirl, 3% RY4 Double, 1.5% Bourbon Vanilla. See if that gets you anywhere close to what you're after, after it steeps for a week. If you find that it's not enough tobacco, you're going to need to order and add a small amount of a tobacco flavor. I recommend FLV Cured, FLV Red Burley, or FLV Kentucky. If it's too much caramel and not enough vanilla, you can try using less RY4 Dub and/or adding a little Vanillin.

I am more interested in the vanilla aspect of this really, that's why I want to use that vanillin. I was thinking of starting like:

• 3%RY4D - 2%HAZELNUT - 4%MBV - 1%VANILLIN

Do you think would work or it would be too overpowering or muted?

no, not really, nic salts is more if you want to use it in higher amounts in a mtl setup or an all in one like a juul. If you are subohming and only using it at 306 mg, there really is no need to get the salts unless you want a smoother hit.

For the CAP Sweet Mango (etc) 5% in 10ml would be 0.5g. Does that help? If not could you give more specifics for what you're trying to do?

What percentages have you used?

Try leaving out the sweetener and see if you notice a difference in coil longevity.

Not sure what your recipes are since you didn't include any, but some flavors are harder on coils than others. It's hard to give you a proper answer without proper recipes. I would start by skipping the sweetener though.

Haven't experienced anything or heard of anything like that. I'm assuming same coils and wattage? You mentioned some test batches. Are you/have you tested the vg by itself?

What coils?

You could alternate between different dessert tobaccos that are similar, but it’s been my experience that you can go mute on a specific flavor even if it’s used in different recipes. So if you start to go a little mute on Soho, maybe try something with a different tobacco, cream, nuts, and butterscotch. Then go to something that maybe has some cocoa notes, hint of coffee, and vanilla. Then maybe back to Soho.

Depends if they have shared components or use different volatiles to achieve the same flavor, which would require you to know the ingredients. Switching between similar flavors can be interesting though, as you'll start to pick up on their differences, but if you numb your senses to some shared property, you won't get the full flavor from either one.

Isn't RY4 just a combination of tobacco and caramel and some other flavors though? Personally I would rather pick a few FLV or INW tobaccos and add different things to them than to explore a dozen interpretations of RY4, but to each his own.

If you want to. Many people think the risk is worth the reward but the choice is entirely personal.

I did when I first started, but some of those v2 and DX flavors are straight nasty. CAP Vanilla Cupcake v2 is actually very good though... It kind of depends on your preferences. I tend to shy away from some of the FW flavors containing sugar syrup more than D/A/AP.

I kind of look at it all being relatively safer than cigarettes, but as apex stated, the choice is entirely yours.

https://www.nudenicotine.com/product/patchouli-vanilla-2/

For an accurate representation, a clean set of wicks is going to be your best bet, and yes it's a bit tedious. Sometimes you can get away with firing it dry and just dropping the next flavor in, eventually it may take over. Some flavors tend to linger in your coils if you don't re-wick and clean everything out though. It is entirely dependent on what flavors/percentages you're testing at.

If you are using clapton coils, or any build with adequate surface area, you can run wickless and just drip right on the coils. The surface tension will hold enough juice on your coils for 1 puff at a time, which is a fairly common technique for those who are testing lots of flavors at once.

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Not necessarily a bad idea, but you may find more success mixing your own from scratch. Through trial and error or just by sheer luck, you may come up with something 10x better and 10x cheaper. There are tons of recipes and if youre strictly interested in grape, that may make it easier for you. Try INW grape for an authentic grape or TFA grape juice for a welchs/popsicle type grape. Check around the sub and All the Flavors and you will find more information!

If anything it would be pretty much the same process of trial and error trying to enhance or improve whatever juice you were adding flavors to.

If you wanted to make it super easy to start you could just get a premixed base and some Flavor West Grape, then start experimenting with it at different percentages.

Or look up grape recipes on ATF & ELR and add the flavors you need to a kit like this.

• No extracts found in stores. They are not safe to vape.

• Get a scale and mix by weight directly into your bottles. No messy cleanup needed.

• I wouldn’t mix so large an amount of juice at one time that you need to freeze some of it. It will need to steep anyways, depending on the flavors used.

• Selling juice to people you know is easy. A few people also sell in the DIY Classifieds sub.

• Most flavors don’t contain sugar. There are a few FW flavors that contain sugar syrup. You won’t be using them anyways.

Choose the PG based version unless you have a very good reason to avoid it.